2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

wow man so....i don't check this thread that often but the etch-a-sketch thing and that eminem mitt romney thing...goddamn

this is just an unreal campaign

where is ron paul's etch-a-sketch

He has nothing to sketch: he doesn't believe in government

he's building his own

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He's using one of those things you get at the supermarket, where you draw on plastic with a stylus and rip it from its cardboard backing when you're done.

The odds are probably low, but I can see where Hillary might run in 2016. The arguments against are numerous and obvious, starting with age and her public statements, but I think she has this core conviction that she was going to be the first female president, and that's a hard thing to let go of. Unless she has--maybe a controversy-free term as SOS, with high favorability, has softened that. She came perilously close to burning all her bridges in 2008, but she's well past all that; I'm sure her candidacy would be very well received. Whether Obama wins or loses would factor in. Not sure which would be better from her vantage point--it's hard for a party to win three in a row, so a loss would probably be better. Can't see Biden running in a million years.

it's hard for a party to win three in a row

not when you are running against CRAZY

Can't see Biden running in a million years.

Biden's been running for President for like 25 years at this point

I mean he's terribly uninspiring as a candidate but his ego is gigantic and plenty of VPs think "I deserve this"

and yeah it is hard to win three in a row, but the GOP is imploding in such a spectacular manner, without Jeb in the picture it's hard to see where a galvanizing, unifying figure is going to come from in the next 4 years.

In six years Biden won't be in any shape to run across the street.

Jooooooooee the Biden

(to the tune of Joe the Lion)

Jooooe Biden's gonna tell us where the light is.

Now that the nomination's basically done with, Mitt will have to step up his gaffe-of-the-day strategy to keep this interesting--bigger gaffes, better gaffes, more of them. He--his campaign--got off to an excellent start yesterday. But Obama's side should know enough to sit back and let things like the Etch-a-Sketch story take care of themselves. (Yesterday they jumped in.) They're kind of vulnerable on that point.

I think she has this core conviction that she was going to be the first female president

this is a weird claim

I said "I think"--an opinion. And really, I don't see what's so weird about it at all.

The popular caricature of Biden as either a simpleton (late-night talk shows) or a party animal (The Onion) probably doesn't do him any favors were he to contemplate a presidential run in 2016. Also he would be (slightly) older than Dole was in '96.

xp Don't most presidential hopefuls have a keen sense of their potential historical significance and - in order to keep them going through the long, brutal slog - a certain sense that they are destined for it?

I am sort of hoping the first female president isn't, y'know, the wife of one of the previous presidents.

One huge difference between Hillary and Biden is that I imagine the core of Hillary's support still feels that 2008 was an unfinished story--if she ever did jump in, they'd be there. The core of Biden's support from 2008...well, I can't even finish that sentence.

ION, I am hoping that the Romney team are actively trolling his rivals with this shit, and that they will exploit the standard Republican enthusiasm for / ineptitude with joeks to turn them further to the side of prop comics. Look for one of Mitt's staff to make an exploitable remark involving a flaming bag of dogpoop!

Naive question from britisher: Is there any ladies in US Politics who could potentially run and win in the next 3 elections?

Potentially? I think Elizabeth Warren might have a way outside shot, but she'd have to win her Senate race first...

Is there any ladies in US Politics who could potentially run and win in the next 3 elections?

for President? Hillary's the only real national figure with the necessary party backing. As noted, Warren hasn't even won an election yet. I don't think Sebelius or Feinstein or whoever has any interest in being president.

I would vote for Barbara Mikulski though

3 elections (assuming you're not counting 2012) is a long time tho -- someone totally off the radar today could show up in 2023.

OTM. 12 years ago Obama was a state senator.

yeah no arguing there

I can't even think of a male who could run and win the next 3 elections.

I'm just saying that at the moment nobody really fits the bill besides Hillary

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'the bill'

Sarah Palin has a chance, and if you don't think so, you give voters way too much credit.

lol pp

nah even the crazy people are sick of sarah palin

no matter who the voters are, sarah palin doesn't stand a chance bc she lacks the discipline, intelligence, etc, to mount a presidential campaign. she just couldn't make it throughout the entire run

looooool

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also everyone h8s her

except me

Palin cannot attract any of the moderate voters she would need to win. She can blather to the base all she wants, but so can Newt.

GOP might have thought they had something with Nikki Haley for a minute there, but no.

Don't drag intelligence into this.

someone as crazy as sarah palin who had decent handlers coulda won this year

i think the lesson of the mccain campaign is that there aren't handlers good enough to handle sarah

yah handlers are overrated, you need a candidate who wants to be handled, even then you end up w/romney

how exactly do you run a campaign for someone determined to take everything in their line of vision with the grace and charm of an aggressive toddler?

agressive toddler '12

well you can't really, which is why none of the crazies were able to ride their momentum longer than 3 minutes xp

This Etch-a-Sketch nonsense is exactly why politics is so dull.

"Need to shake things up first and then change things by only going left-right, left-right, left-right…"

just own it, mitt. own it.

If we can get Santorum talking about using the Konami Code I would consider it a great victory.