How many Lee Ranaldo records is too many?

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Don't really look at Metacritic, but took a peak now. Seems that 10 out of 12 reviews are "positive", giving it a score of 75 or something. Which doesn't mean anything other than that this batch of reviews generally state that it is a decent to good record (or something like that).

Out of curiosity, I looked at the Observer review, which was the other negative review. It was one paragraph long, most of which made no strong statements whatsoever (and seemed pretty positive actually), then the last sentence states that the record is sonically interesting but the lyrics not so much. All of which somehow added up to 2 out of 5 stars. Worthless review.

grandavis, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

the gently major-label "Wish Fulfillment"

da croupier, Thursday, 22 March 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link

finally sitting down to listen to this now, sounds good so far. is it the same personnel for the whole album or are there liner notes online somewhere that say who plays on what?

internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

It is not the same personnel other than that I think Steve, Alan, and Lee are on every track. The bassist Irwin Menken plays on most of the songs, but apparently Jim O'Rourke plays bass on a song. Any keyboards are Medeski, so he is easy to pick out, and Nels Cline plays pedal steel (or lap?) and then some straight guitar, which is also pretty easy to pick out. Apparently Bob Bert is on there too. Obviously I did not look at a track-by-track list of who plays on what, and I am not sure that that is available yet, but the record is out now, so maybe Matador has it listed?

grandavis, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

i was a bit disappointed with this record on first listen. will have to try again. :( i had hoped to be bowled over by it.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

I was expecting to be disappointed, I really wasn't moved by the first couple of songs that circulated (those live clips from the first show), so lowered expectations may have helped. It does make me wish he had done this in the 80s and 90s too though, as it has kinda convinced me that he may have pulled off some great shit without the SY modus operandi hanging over his songs. It makes me think that he may have a better record of this type in him as well, I hope he makes another.

grandavis, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

What I like about this record is that it avoids the predictable guitar clashes of his work with Sonic Youth. I agree with the complaints about the lyrics, but other than that it's a very fine arranged and enjoyable record. The PF review is one of their worst. Today's review of the new O'Rourke/Ambarch/Heino cd is an example of how it should be: about the music.

EvR, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

but the record is out now, so maybe Matador has it listed?

Picked up a physical copy yesterday, but unfortunately there is no track-by-track breakdown which is pretty annoying, imo, for a record with a varied cast like this

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

And yet there's Lee in the Brian Turner interview portion from his WFMU session Tuesday having rhapsodies about how nice it was back in the old days of the album as this magical unit of music-delivery, when you could sit down and read liner notes and look over personnel info and groove on cover art etc...lol.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

haha

internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that's too bad, but I do think you can pick out exactly who is playing what on each song, you just have to listen to them to figure it out. Seems like an odd thing to leave out of the liners though.

grandavis, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah as a Nels Cline stan i had a similar frustration with an Eleni Mandell album he played on where the liners were not very specific as to what he played on but there were of course some tracks where it was obviously him

internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

I like this better than the Thurston joint from last year!

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ me too.

Really loving this album.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

yeah this is better than it has any right to be - pretty much confirms my feeling that I mainly stuck with SY for the Lee songs

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 07:39 (twelve years ago) link

I read a couple of the negative reviews while listening to the first couple of tracks, and nearly bailed. I'm glad I didn't. This is a good album!

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

BBC review by Spencer Grady: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/6z5c

EvR, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:09 (twelve years ago) link

i Just. Don't. Get. people who can't write about this record without slighting SY's other work, etc, but i guess i'm pretty avowedly an SY fanboy by this point. this new lee album is thoroughly excellent, some of his best works, as was thurston's demolished thoughts, as was murray street, etc etc

Nascar Pony (stevie), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

i preferred the thurston album. at least it had tunes whereas this is noodling along. thurston did evolve whereas lee just does not change at all. does the world really need this kind of stuff in the 2010s?

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

what kind of stuff does the world really need? other than love, sweet love.

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

I liked new Thurston and Lee both, though they're very different albums. Not the BEST by either, though.

Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

i think maybe if Lee had given the Shelley/Cline/Licht ensemble a band name to credit the album under it would've gone down better as a Wild Flag-type supergroup thing

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

Lee Ranaldo & The Angels of Licht

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

haha

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

just saw this: http://pitchfork.com/features/5-10-15-20/8797-lee-ranaldo/

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

fun article but i wish he'd been a little more personal and idiosyncratic with his selections, obviously Nevermind and Daydream Nation have personal significance for him but i dunno

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

yeah not terribly surprising stuff in there. liked the anecdote about playing marquee moon in the lecture hall.

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

Boring list, thought he'd stick a few more interesting albums for the 'guitarist' in there

Master of Treacle, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

And Pavement as favourite band of the 90s, jesus

Master of Treacle, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

the coda part of 'Fire Island' is lovely, wish it was the whole song

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

nice piece by Lee on the Dead, mentions a new alb:

http://thetalkhouse.com/features/view/lee-ranaldo-the-grateful-deads-long-lost-concert-documentary-sunshine-daydr#.UkCl8cWAD74.twitter

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 07:08 (ten years ago) link

Lee finally accepted my FB friend request last month! Thanks, Lee!

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 3 October 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

really digging Last Night On Earth, only halfway in and am already pretty sure it's an improvement on Between The Tides.

some dude, Thursday, 10 October 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

Lee performing on Conan tonight!

Reince The GOPer (some dude), Friday, 13 December 2013 04:11 (ten years ago) link

i loled at this:

Mike Wolf ‏@thismikewolf 9h
Some might call it Alan Licht's nat'l-TV debut. MT @matadorrecords Lee Ranaldo & The Dust are on tonight's "Conan" (TBS) @leeranaldo

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 December 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

doing a live set on WFMU in about 10 minutes:

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/BT

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link

Nice! His solo records are so underappreciated

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 02:29 (ten years ago) link

playing sometime soon at the bell house with steve gunn & somebody else? might have a guest spot if you'd wanna go morbz.

ian, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link

Ian, pretty sure that Nathan Bowles is drumming for the Steve Gunn band on this tour, and maybe is opening the shows solo as well? Something like that.

grandavis, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

New album on Mute tomorrow: Electric Trim.
Interesting roster: Shelley, Sharon van Etten, Alan Licht, Nels Cline, Tim Luntzel, Kid Millions. Lyrics co-written by Jonathan Lethem on six songs.

two tracks:
Circular (Right As Rain) (love this)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNK7N5L6jCk

New Thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2HWSUaqPd4

Trailer for a documentary on the making of the album (more info here: http://montclairfilm.org/events/the-thrill-of-the-creative-process-in-hello-hello-hello/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNK7N5L6jCk

willem, Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:39 (six years ago) link

oh crap, here's Circular (Right As Rain):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2XRnzj-YmE

willem, Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link

the album is wonderful. his best solo yet.

Cyndi Larper (stevie), Friday, 15 September 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link

Listened once on Spotify. Some really surprising moments. I'm not sure what I think of the spoken bits but the melodic songs are hitting the spot, for the most part. Ranaldo, Cline, and Licht all playing on a Beatlesque pop record seems like a good idea!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 September 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link

"last looks"!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 22 September 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link


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