PAUL SIMON POLL RESULTS THREAD AND DISCUSSION

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I guess my two SBoSW jams won't make it.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link

haha despite the fact that only voted for 2 of these 10 songs i think theyre a pretty unfuckable with collection of total jamz, like every one of them has something remarkable about them, they are a testament

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one of the only songs where i feel like it really is too low

go for me too. All permutations I could come up with for these results had 50 Ways top three.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:01 (twelve years ago) link

Not enough said about "I Know What I Know", so I'll say two things:

1. it's my favorite song on Graceland because it sounds like a real collaboration; it doesn't feel like he's either Paul Simon-ing all over a good backing track or trying and failing to sing in another idiom. "Mother and Child Reunion" is like that for me too -- his song fits with a way huge backing track that comes outside of Simon's cultural word, and something cool comes out of it.

2. Good Lord the video editing on that live Graceland video is SLOPPY. Watch for the bass player, Bakithi Kumalo: he's playing a fretless Washburn -- no wait, a fretted Fender -- no, the Washburn -- all inside a matter of seconds.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

I know "Mrs. Robinson" belongs to that category of oppressively overplayed radio songs, but the Joe Dimaggio verse will never not amaze me. I think you have to place it in the context of its moment, and in the context of the rest of the song--the way it comes out of nowhere--to appreciate fully what I don't hesitate to call a flash of genius. "Mother and Child Reunion" is one of many songs from my favourite year, 1972--"Let's Stay Together," "Hello It's Me," "You Wear It Well," etc.--where nostalgia cuts very deep for me. Loved it on the radio then (I was 11), still do. (Unlike "Kodachrome," which I loved then and am indifferent to now.) Pretty sure I did not know what reggae music was in 1972.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:16 (twelve years ago) link

Kinda stunned BOTW is no higher than #17. Was my all too predictable #1 (I've been under its spell of late).

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link

"Al" was my #1. It's a fab ringtone---those horns! But yeah, the last verse, I live that feeling. The poll with it & "Once in a Lifetime" is one of my fav ILM things.

Euler, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

BOTW was my senior class song. It's rubbed me wrong ever since.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:59 (twelve years ago) link

Similar thing here. It was the only pop song my school choir was allowed to sing.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link

xxxxp

Mother and Child Reunion, Let's Stay Together, Hello It's Me and You Wear It Well are all among my favorites too. cheers!

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

"Al" was my #1 obv

"50 Ways" is the only big canonical Simon hit that i straight up don't get at all, i always want it to be better than it is

some dude, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

it just feels like a novelty song, even with Simon's lyrics

"You Can Call Me Al" is kind of a brainier "Hot Hot Hot" (not in a bad way!).

Also, Simon mentioned in an interview (Songwriters on Songwriting) that "Mother and Child Reunion" as a title comes from a menu item featuring chicken and scrambled eggs.

Also, I completely forgot about "Mrs. Robinson"!

"Flashy...hip" (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

Chevy Chase should've done a "serious" Paul Simon video at some point, maybe as a Graham Greene-type guy in "The Cool, Cool River."

"Flashy...hip" (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

"50 Ways" was my #5, at least half because of Steve Gadd. Love that shuffle so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZLLYEzKE8

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

yeah steve gadd absolutely kills that track

max, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

i posted this on the other thread so i assume everyone who cares has heard it but i love this edit that removes the goofy chorus and adds a nice bass line

http://soundcloud.com/aordisco/50-ways-to-leave-your-lover-pollyns-re-edit-remix-paul-simon

max, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

ha, that's interesting - but I for one welcome the goofy chorus. It's fun!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

Lose the chorus and you lose the way he hits "discuuuuuss muuuch," which would make me sad.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

Simon mentioned in an interview (Songwriters on Songwriting) that "Mother and Child Reunion" as a title comes from a menu item featuring chicken and scrambled eggs.

...and "Yesterday" was originally called "Scrambled Eggs." The secret history of pop music coming into focus.

http://sp.life123.com/bm.pix/scrambled-eggs1---eggs-on-plate.s600x600.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

xpost:

Plus I think the goofy chorus is kind of the point of the song, which is a ribbing of '70s touchy-feeliness and therapy talk.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Few people know that "And I Will Always Love You" was originally titled "And I Will Always Love Juice," until Dolly Parton's conservative Southern management insisted it was too evocative of OJ Simpson and therefore of an interracial relationship.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

The more you know

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

Also, goofy chorus is part of this ongoing thing we see where all this "adult" "grown-up" stuff paired with stuff that any kid is going to love singing along to.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

I really like the 50 Ways edit - it's like a completely different song without the chorus.

'Lounge' is the mantra though - I can well imagine lounging, in a lounge, to that cut.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

Never seen that whole AOR Disco site before, what riches it promises.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

gdamn "50 ways" without the chorus is like christmas without presents or something

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

xxxxp More eggy Simon weirdness: "I Am The Walrus"' juxtaposition of eggmen/Humpty Dumpty and "coo coo ca-choo" ("Mrs. Robinson")

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

gdamn "50 ways" without the chorus is like christmas without presents or something

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:03 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no dog its like christmas without church

max, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

Church of the Bus Gus

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

Pastor Coy Roy officiating.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

Don't need to repent, Kent.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

no no you guys this one's pretty easy

"I look outside my window and I watch the Cars" - Paul is in London where Roy Thomas Baker is producing their debut, he sees them arriving at the studio daily for tracking
"I fear I'll do some damage one fine day" - he is thinking of covering one of their songs in his own style
"but I would not be found guilty by a jury of my peers" - old hippies will love my Cars cover no matter what it sounds like
"still crazy after all these years" - I am an axe murderer

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:57 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think of this post every time it's "Paul Simon" time

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

50 ways chorus prob most epitomizes the aspect of ps that i cant really deal with

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Ditto, I have cracked myself up to that whole sequence so many times.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

lol yes, that post has given me a deep deep new appreciation of "still crazy."

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

had no idea everyone hated the 50 ways chorus so much.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

50 ways chorus prob most epitomizes the aspect of ps that i cant really deal with

For me it's like the opposite. The aspects I have most reaction against is the po-faced stuff that's most prevalent in S&G but resurfaces here and there through the solo career. Loose, jazzy Paul >>>>>>>> English-major Paul.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

i like all the pauls.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

lyrics to s&g songs can be really annoying, though, tru

horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

Rubbing those two aspects of Simon up against each other in one song is what makes it classic. It was high on my ballot.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

i don't dislike the 50 ways chorus specifically. the whole song just feels very slight and unmemorable to me in ways that seem surprisingly opposite to public opinion of it.

some dude, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

re: 50 ways, that is

btw, I heard it on the radio yesterday and thought "yep, high placement totally justified"

xp to self

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

I love the chorus of "50 Ways" & agree with tipsy re. the Simons.

Euler, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

50 ways was my #3

Euler, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

this is where i get to play "comedy films poll" by saying i love the 50 ways chorus bcz i loved it when i was 13.

guessing "For Emily Wherever I May Find Her" is not showin up

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

If that misses the top 10 that's a shame.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't vote for it specifically for the slightness issue, but I do love the song. I think if Paul Simon were a one-hit wonder and this was his only thing, it'd do really really well in like the 70s songs poll, you know, this fondly-remembered bit of AM good times. As a "Paul Simon song" it doesn't quite fit somehow.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

er, that's in ref to "50 Ways," not "Emily!"

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

For me it's like the opposite. The aspects I have most reaction against is the po-faced stuff that's most prevalent in S&G but resurfaces here and there through the solo career. Loose, jazzy Paul >>>>>>>> English-major Paul.

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:02 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these are i guess the two aspects of ps that i cant really deal with, and its not that hes loose and jazzy its that hes trying to be loose and jazz when its not really in his nature, he is not a chill dude

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

PS feels like a dude that only really relaxed and came into himself when he had kids

max, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

i mean just judging by his songwriting/lyrics and stuff

max, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link


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