they give an impression that hearing someone beg for mercy and then hearing loud, piercing gun shots is much scarier IRL than on television/movies.
(the audio doesn't paint a clear picture by itself, no, but in context with the other circumstantial pieces it paints part of the picture).
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
I could say that the "help" totally sounded like a kid but I don't think I could say that honestly, it's too hard to tell. Still, logically it doesn't make sense that it was Zimmermann yelling it. He was armed and the voice cut out when the shots rang out.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
Someone yells help a bunch and 90% of the Internet thinks it's Martin and 10% thinks its Zimmerman. And there really should be a fucking attorney making that distinction right now; but Florida continues to be a worthless fucking shithole
― cum on feel the cone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
if it was Zimmermann, he was yelling "Help" like Uncle Jimbo screamed "THEY'RE COMING RIGHT FOR US" on South Park
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
It's totally possible that it was Zimmerman screaming if theres truth to his probably-not-true story about being attacked.
Either way this is something a detective could figure out in like two hours; but it's best to just let the Internet make guesses. Good work, Florida, sink into the fucking Gulf
― cum on feel the cone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
well considering that they sent a narcotics detective to investigate a homicide....
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
The state attorney's office also said a voice analysis would be conducted on 911 calls from the night of the shooting to determine who was yelling for help.
this mystery should be over soon.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
in Zimmermann's 911 call he points out that the dude is Black like two or three times in the first five minutes. and says 'something is wrong with him' over and over...no specifics.
fucking loon.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
you can totally tell he's pursuing Trayvon too because of his voice shaking, his heavy breathing, the excessive background noise...
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
this zimmerman guy seems like a pretty dim bulb
― the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
with a gun! the best kind of bulb.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
this makes me so upset.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:59 (twelve years ago) link
this whole thing is like a fucking horror movie
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link
between this and the stuff in france it's like why do i ever even pay attention to the news
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link
the france stuff is worse -- or even harder to read.
what a world.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://motherjones.com/files/images/blog_trayvon_martin_cable_nets.jpg
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
has everyone heard the 'fucking coons' audio clip from Zimmerman's 911 call?
― akm, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNI5CA5jijw&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ
some of us don't want to
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
well, true, but I'm thinking this is what is giving more weight to federal investigation of this as a hate crime; because otherwise this dumb ass florida stand your ground law really means that local authorities don't have any reason to prosecute this.
― akm, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
If this goes to trial, will there be jurors? Will it be hard finding jurors who haven't heard about this on the news?
― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
no, unfortunately.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
plz don't estimate the ignorance of north florida
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
underestimate*
Part of me was thinking this would lead to a self-selected jury group of people who just watch Fox news (since it's not being reported on there?); part of me feels many people tend not to interact w/the news.
― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
troy davis might've been bigger than this and i'm pretty sure half the country still wouldn't be able to tell you who he is.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
so the "fucking coons" thing, it certainly sounds LIKE that on the audio, but I have to be honest, it's not definitive by any means.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
doesn't matter though. his repeating of the fact that Trayvon was black plus his statement to neighbors "watch out of young black males" indicates racial bias prior to his action.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
probably in court
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
whoops, probably *not in court
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/21/10791755-neighbor-comes-to-defense-of-trayvon-martins-shooter
IT'S THE BLACKS' FAULT THEY MADE ZIMMERMANN PARANOID!!
fuck this neighbor
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
"“I think he had fed-up issues. He was mad as hell and wasn't going to take it anymore.”"
o_0
― zooey bechamel (Trayce), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
I like how he criticizes those for rushing to judgment then clearly indicates he believes Zimmermann acted in self-defense
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
the "fucking coons" thing, it certainly sounds LIKE that on the audio, but I have to be honest, it's not definitive by any means
So, then you play it to a jury, have the lawyers explain it as best reflects on their case, and the jury decides what it hears. Then, according to jurisprudence, it becomes definitive.
― Aimless, Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
^ yeah, this. i'm like 70-80% sure he says "fucking coons", but it's all ultimately up the the jury. hopefully...
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but he has black friends and he was an altar boy. clearly not racist.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
BREAKING: Racist defends other racist (xp)
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
if you had a choice would you rather see
a) george z locked up
or
b) stand your ground law repealed
― the late great, Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
we shouldn't have to choose
― humba (NZA), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah Id like one to lead to t'other.
― zooey bechamel (Trayce), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
fuck anyone even interviewing the neighbor, it's not like he was a witness.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like to see both, but god help the state of Florida if we see neither.
― Sam Handwiches (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
ok i listened to the audio and there's no 70-80% about it, he %100 says fucking coons
― humba (NZA), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
is it stupid of me in my searchings to expect zimmerman to give anything even vaguely like an apology or statement of regret?
― humba (NZA), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
as long as there is a possibility of him having any kind of charges against him, definitely
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
xxxpost I remember when we first passed this law and detractors were labeled as paranoid. Now, the statistics indicate a sharp and clear correlating rise in "justifiable homicides" in the state since its passage.
few would dispute someone's right to defend themselves from being under attack, but the problem is clearly, the populace of Florida is interpreting this law VERY loosely, and lawmakers and police are afraid to challenge anybody who uses the defense.
Get rid of it. Now.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
The thing is, anyway, eve if Trayvon had robbed a house, and was, say, walking off from that, that fucker has no right to play cop and SHOOT HIM DEAD.
And if Im to believe that law means he legally can and it isnt murder then god help u all :/
― zooey bechamel (Trayce), Thursday, 22 March 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
well even the dude that drafted the law says it doesn't cover what Zimmermann did. The problem is how the law is interpreted by both citizenry and the law. It's given way too wide of a berth.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
oh and Trayce otm
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
well i ask because i wish the nat'l dialogue was more abt the NRA's favorite fantasy (that if everyone was packing we'd be safer) and less about whether bernard goetz jr should go to jail
― the late great, Thursday, 22 March 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link