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that describes what is annoying about like 95% of the political commentary I see on the internet

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

I'd be happy with an ocassional statement relating the minutia to the bigger picture, or noting that it is minutia. Also, it would be interesting if Greenwald suddenly began getting included in more mainstream outlets, and if the mainstream media would at least address some of these items so they would not seem like Greenwald's little hobby horses. The whole killing an American without due process issue has largely been ignored by much of the mainstream media. No one really asked Obama about it at his last press conference.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

we currently have a state where it is legal to shoot and kill someone under the guise of "standing your ground"; due process is and has always been a fucking fantasy in this country

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

I cannot address political matters as Pope Mordy points out, but some churches do not count Fridays as part of Lent.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

Go eat a capybara.

Mordy, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

Always keep up my ACLU membership as they support legal battles for due process everywhere

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

xps "stand your ground" laws exist in like 16 states fyi, which obviously just strengthens your point

1staethyr, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to respond to Goldblog's unhinged, thin-skinned rants against me in due course, but it's worth noting how he conducts debate. He resorts either to authoritah - my critics are too uninformed and dumb to engage - or to marginalization of his opponents.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

lol referring to him as goldblog

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

i know a lot of ppl here don't like goldblog (for good reasons tbh), but sullivan really looks like a child when arguing with him.

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

i just found it amusing to see him accuse someone else of unhinged rants

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

They both seem like children to me no matter who they are arguing with.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

oh plz.

Good God. The utter lack of engagement with the arguments of a book that has yet to be published is revealing - and the deployment of personal matters as a way to smear someone is exactly the same tactic as Jeffrey Goldberg's abuse of private matters, like his version of a conversation we once had

that's what this is all about. sullivan is embarrassed bc goldberg spilled the beans that his conversion on israel was about his love for obama. doesn't everyone already know that sullivan seems to know frightfully little about israel, middle east, etc and switches his opinion based on the political climate? dude's entire shtick these days is practically, "i used to believe X but now i believe the total opposite."

Mordy, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sure I'm the last person still interested in any of this, but Sullivan in never-never land today:

"...like Joe Klein, I'm beginning to think that Eric Fehrnstrom's description of his own candidate as an Etch-A-Sketch, capable of erasing anything he has believed or said in the past instantly, is close to a disqualifying comment."

Ignoring for a second that the election is still 7-8 months away, ignoring whatever accidental truth there is to what the guy said, and ignoring that he posted this on a day where Obama reminded everyone of his own problems in that area, should he maybe take into consideration that it was something said by somebody on the campaign, not Romney himself? Disqualifying comment? "I'm suspending my campaign as of today; someone who works for me said something stupid."

Later on in the same post, he accidentally returns to reality: "But what does it say about Obama's strength that he's still polling only four or five points over this gaffe-prone robot?"

clemenza, Friday, 23 March 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

This is precisely why Etch-a-Sketch was funny exactly two seconds. A campaign aide made a remark that Reinforced A Narrative? really?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link

I can see where the story will make Romney needlessly squirm some more during the nomination. (Gingrich has a good ad up today.) Trying to carry the story over into the general seems silly to me.

clemenza, Friday, 23 March 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

Today on the Dish, Andrew wondered if America was on the road to post-Obamacare single payer while we detailed the specific path down that route, noted the somewhat circumscribed role of the mandate, guessed at whether the Medicad expansion would get thrown out by SCOTUS, cautioned against seeing the Constitution in black-and-white, developed a timeline for hearing the Court's decision, compared Obama's fight with the Court to Bush's, and forecasted the negative consequences of the mandate's defeat for Obama's reelection campaign.

he wondered, noted, guessed, cautioned, developed, compared, and forecasted. what a renaissance man!

Mordy, Friday, 30 March 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link

so boring lately

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link

so is this guy like a lutheran now or what

goole, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

http://feministing.com/files/2012/05/newsweek.jpg

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, I am ready to eat jellyfish.

polyphonic, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

http://media.salon.com/2012/05/sullivan-460x307.jpg

caro's johnson (Eazy), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

what a fuckwit

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

Honestly, considering he could've died of AIDS as a wunderkind, it's great to see him bald and grey.

caro's johnson (Eazy), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

haven't read his blog in months and much happier for it, i think

Mordy, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

uh, he's been bald since before he was placing ads for sex (while decrying gay promiscuity). xp

Posted on the Marriage to Alfred thread.... G.G. chronicles Sullivan's move from indifference toward Obama's "evolution" to full-on Daddy weeping:

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/14/andrew_sullivans_father_figure/

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I finally pulled him out (lol) of my reader & have been happier too, though I guess less knowledgable about the hott blogggg topics of the day. the news these days, it happens too fast.

Euler, Monday, 14 May 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

This guy's such a courtier.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

first black president (clinton edition)/first gay president is such a grossly cute way to talk abt things

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

besides i thought lincoln was the first gay president

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

Buchanan

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

This guy's such a courtier.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, May 14, 2012 1:58 PM (2 days ago)

He seems to have been saddended by this judgment. (Well, not yours specifically but imagine if.)

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05/pressuring-the-president.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

I closed that window yesterday, unwilling to be moved by the 0.0004456 of a percentage separating Glenn Greenwald and Sully's views on sodomy and civil liberties.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

But but but the splitting of hairs

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Friedersdorf shakes his head. It's a fair review: why Sully is infuriating yet so readable.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

lol that url does-andrew-sullivans-obamaphilia-make-sense

lag∞n, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Spurred on by all the bad news for Obama last week, Sullivan has been in overdrive the last two or three days. It's June 11--I do believe he's headed for some sort of meltdown if Obama starts consistently running behind in the polls.

clemenza, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

it's either that or posts with headlines like "Can Beagles Be Trained to Parachute?"

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Wishin' and hopin':

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/06/the-core-reality-of-this-campaign.html

Skipping how Romney measures up against normal campaign legerdemain--I imagine he's worse than most, although not all that much worse--I'm quite sure Nixon in '72 (and probably '68, too) takes that prize with room to spare.

clemenza, Monday, 25 June 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, I take major exception to Romney being the most mendacious of candidates. He's got serious competition.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

man this guy is really all about foreskins

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Friday, 29 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Headline today: How Hot Is Hell?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Still taking time out for the occasional View from Bain Capital Your Window.

clemenza, Monday, 16 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

Tom Hardy says he experimented with gay sex. There are rumors that he played Bane in the latest Batman movie. I have to say: I couldn't tell. And couldn't understand almost anything he said. What a steaming pile of crap that movie was.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I know I've been the only person waiting for this:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/08/paul-ryan-vs-fiscal-conservatism.html

"But he is, in some ways, a pellucidly bright plant bred in the conservative movement's hydroponic greenhouse." Exactly--that's why his ears are big and his clothes don't fit.

clemenza, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

Some nicely turned phrases by Sullivan in that post. Maybe he had extra time to work on it over his vacation. It's a more persuasive conservative dis on Ryan than the David Stockman op-ed that ran in the NY Times last week.

o. nate, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Sez he's planning on attending Burning Man next year:

After years of nagging by my most relentless partner in crime, I've agreed to go next year. In an RV.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 September 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

oh for jesus sake

goole, Sunday, 16 September 2012 08:05 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone who had the BurningMan - Hillary4Prez quinella yesterday, don't forget to stop by the window to collect.

Plasmon, Sunday, 16 September 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link


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