Which is WORSE: What Would You Say vs. Zombie

you were there. when the bear ate his head. he thought it was a candy.

oh gosh his voice is really horrible isn't it?

it was the first single! before ants marching!

the video reminds me of the one Stewie made in Family Guy that time

also lets not forget -- harmonica solo by john popper

As a kid I actually liked "Zombie", but by the time "What Would You Say" came out I had been trained to recognise evil. DMB had zero cultural impact in Australia but I remember seeing this song at like 14 or whatever and thinking "What. No."

nah sorry "Zombie" is still way worse than this

Zombie easily

like a zombie on a chain

the DMB is much more closely related to things I actually like than Dolores O'Riordan's honking

Man, between early '95 and '98 my local top 40 station would not stop playing this and "Crash," "Ants Marching," and the other one even though they weren't legit singles in that outdated sense of the word. I never heard another on the radio again after "Don't Drink The WaterEEYAYAYAYEYAYAYAHHH."

like a zombie on a chain

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:45 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

for some reason i had the inclination that DMB might be huge in aus. i don't really know why. maybe because he's from SA (sorry if that's some kind of insult)? or maybe because his US fanbase and americans who are "really into" australia is a prob a close venn diagram.

anyway, intersting

Hey, I like "Zombie"! Though I was like 11 when it came out, which might be why it was easy for me to hear past Dolores O'Riordan's overweening, humorless sense of significance and enjoy the guitar crunch.

much rather listen to zombie

Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin',
Heart is taking over.
When the vi'lence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...

I would bet money that I had never heard this DMB song before in my life. The first song I ever remember hearing by them was "Ants Marching".

Please remember that when that first DMB song came out, I didn't have cable, I'd stopped listening to the radio, and I was almost exclusively buying breakbeat/drum n bass/trip-hop/Cure/Prince albums

Where was Dolores from again?

TS: Don't Drink The Water vs Zombie for terrifying inhuman screeching

This is one of DMB's good singles! It's very catchy, some different parts going on, memorable lyrics, kind of dumb maybe but if they had stayed this consistently hooky instead of feeding the jam audience with uninspired instrumental sprawl they would be a lot more people's guilty pleasure IMO.

Where was Dolores from again?

somebody's rectal exam

dan you lived among tundra whites and went to an ivy! how is this possible!!

this is really hard

also dying at the wwys video, that shit is genuinely 10 years too late

for some reason i had the inclination that DMB might be huge in aus. i don't really know why. maybe because he's from SA (sorry if that's some kind of insult)? or maybe because his US fanbase and americans who are "really into" australia is a prob a close venn diagram.

anyway, intersting

― goole, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bahahahaha <3

Still think Dolores' screeching is somewhat more pleasant than Alanis' - it's not so adenoidal, for one thing. And it was a neat sound effect for a few singles, anyway.

dan you lived among tundra whites and went to an ivy! how is this possible!!

plz remember the tundra whites I most commonly hung out with; how many of them do you think would be playing DMB for me????????

also said Ivy was WAAAAAAAAAAAY more hung up on Rage Against The Machine than DMB; this is the school that gave G Love and Special Sauce the massive gasface in favor of a pickup band made up of choral singers (I've posted that story here before...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASQDzdiblNE

g love and special suck amirite

for some reason i had the inclination that DMB might be huge in aus. i don't really know why. maybe because he's from SA (sorry if that's some kind of insult)? or maybe because his US fanbase and americans who are "really into" australia is a prob a close venn diagram.

Didn't they get a lot of their fans through touring the college circuit though? (I dunno, a lot of my "knowledge" of DMB is basically inferred from passing aside references)

The fact that a lot of South Africans move to Australia to let the white times roll doesn't really result in any kind of awareness of SA or SA-related cultural products here.

let the white times roll

lol

I beg you all, don't let your feelings about Dolores "Not Larry" O'Riordan color your judgement here. DMB is worse than ten Hitlers. Or at least some number of Hitlers greater than one.

from the zombie cover youtube comments

The most tasteless and point-missing musical abomination in the history of the world, ever. They took a heartfelt Irish protest song from the previous year resenting the IRA's campaign of violence, and made a happy, boppy dance version of it.

Simply repugnant.

EalaDubh 4 months ago

at first i assumed they were talking about the cranberries original..

DMB dumped its own sewage onto people's heads while they were on an architectural tour, which is worse than screeching "Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou"

DMB is worse.

hahahahaha I had forgotten about that

Cranberries dumped sewage into peoples heads by making that song

metaphorical sewage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual sewage

DMB dumped its own sewage onto people's heads

by sewage you meant "every live album it's ever released"

Dolores sounds like a harpooned walrus. the DMB song has a pleasant sax solo.

Didn't they get a lot of their fans through touring the college circuit though?

yes this is their origin story.

god if only we had an overzealous dept of homeland security back then

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3597180.stm

this is seriously one of the funniest stories ever

god if only we had an overzealous dept of homeland security back then

policing Charlottesville!

pleasant sax solo.

R.I.P. LeRoi Moore

DM himself is, i am assuming, not a white-times-roll kind of zud afrikan, to his credit.

http://riffraf.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a7b5f86a970b014e5f3d6c85970c-800wi

the one who died being the only one w/ shoes in that pic is very "barefoot paul on the cover of abbey road"

I like "Zombie"! It was obvious at the time that it was just a Smashing Pumpkins rip-off but tbh I liked it more than anything off Mellon Collie except "1979" & I still feel that way. Plus "Zombie" is easy & fun to sing around the house & I do this a lot still.

Dave Matthews makes me feel old, b/c it got big w/ college students right when I graduated from college & I could not get the appeal.

The dude on the far right excepted, these are the most out of shape guys under forty to hit multiplatinum in the last twenty years

DMB song is pleasantish-enough light rock imo. Cranberries, although I championed their first album, exaggerates all the worst qualities of Dolores' vocal quirks and mawkish poetry about "big issues."

It was obvious at the time that it was just a Smashing Pumpkins rip-off

yeah see this wasn't going to make it any more endearing to me

so she'd have studied under the tutelage of Peavy Wagner?

even mcgonigal could've done a better job

amazing poll... honestly I couldnt choose. Dave-bro is lamebro but that is one of his least horrible songs IMO, compared to another song that sucks in a totally different way and IIRC doesnt sound like any other cranberries song, obviously only issued as a single because it has loud guitars and the same chords as "Violet" and "Disarm."

even it's 'loudness' is polite though. but it did fool the populace well enough. I remember a lot of people who would sit in the Blockbuster Music (lol music stores w/ listening booths) listening to the album and then ask the salesmen "Are there any cd-singles with just Zombie", dismayed at the quiet 'other' songs even though ostensibly they were the same types of songs on the surface.

Yeah, I feel like some people were voting for DMB vs. Cranberries rather than the songs themselves. Should've been 'Zombie' in a walk.

there was an "mtv unplugged" version with a more suitable arrangement

DO-OVER

xxpost I woulda still voted Cranberries tbh. I loved the hell out of Dave Matthews when I was a kid, but college dudes ruined them for me (well that and me hearing other music and realizing how boring DMB was).

I remember Cranberries album tracks being pretty pleasant too, even if I never felt compelled to listen to any of them in their entirety.

"Salvation" was the nightmare the cranberries were meant to deliver... "Zombie" isn't exactly a nightmare.. just kinda mediocre.

was Salvation the really up-tempo number that sounded like a bizarro KayBee Toys jingle?

haha that sounds accurate

they played it at a VMAs and I remember the clip used in retrospectives was the "ah-haha ah-haha ah-haha ah-haha" part sang really out of key and the singer failing to encourage a crowd singalong.

I mean "out of tune" lol

hahaha that's the one I was thinking of.

I actually remember the first time I heard What Would You Say pretty clearly. I was starting to become aware of "funk" at the time, and I was also a bit of a muso/guitar nerd, and I remember thinking "this guy plays really good funk rhythm guitar and the drummer is tight and this doesn't sound like anything I've heard...so why is it so corny and bad?"

I also remember thinking "what the hell is wrong with this guy?"

Yeah, I feel like some people were voting for DMB vs. Cranberries rather than the songs themselves. Should've been 'Zombie' in a walk.

no way. though i don't particularly like DMB, i'd take them over the cranberries in a second. difference here is that i actually like "zombie", and "what would you say" is one of my least favorite DMB tunes (of the few i'm familiar with).

I would venture to guess that DMB has more tolerable songs than Cranberries

probably graduated to the cat sat on the mat lyrics

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:56 PM (3 hours ago)

If it's anything like this jam then I am DOWN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei1DvIgW_PU

^reminds me of WWYS lyrics:

Up and down the puppies' hair
Fleas and ticks jump everywhere
'Cause of original sin

Down the hill fell Jack and Jill
And you came tumbling after
'Cause of original sin

Wipe away the tears
Drink a hope to happy years
And you may find
A lifetime's passed me by

What would you say
Don't drop the big one
If you a monkey on a string
well Don't cut my life line
If you a doggie on a chain
Don't bite the mailman
What would you say

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy
Everyone goes in the end

Knock knock on the door
Who's it for, theres nobody in here
Look in the mirror my friend

I don't understand at best
I cannot speak for all the rest
at mornin rise a lifetime's passed me by

What would you say
Dont' drop the big one
If you a monkey on a string
well Don't cut my life line
If you a doggie on a chain
Don't bite the mailman
What would you say

Every dog has its day every day has its way
Of being forgotten - "Mom, it's my birthday!"
whatd you say (then what could you say)
what would you say

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy
Everyone goes in the end

Knock knock on the door
Who's it for, theres nobody in here
Look in the mirror my friend

I don't understand at best
I cannot speak for all the rest
at mornin rise a lifetime's passed me by

what would you say?

Orange wild-eyed muppet a major influence on Dave's delivery I think.

"with their tanks and their bombs/and their bombs and their guns" vs. "up and down the puppies' hair/fleas and ticks jump everywhere/cause of original sin"

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy

I kind of like this bcz wtf?

I never noticed it because of Dave's goobery up-down delivery.

results are some bullshit imo

Do people here hate "Dreams?" I figured that was generally considered an ok song.

kind of not that bad... better than pretty much any Dave jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yam5uK6e-bQ

I do love Linger more than any DMB song; only "Two Step" comes close...

"i drink too much" makes me want to drink too much

It's probably because they were totally ubiquitous when I was 13-17, the age at which your brain is highly vulnerable to radio hits, but I kinda like all DMB's mid-'90s stuff. Cranberries aren't too bad, either. Someone from the post-Pearl Jam crop of assholes like Bush is way more odious to me.

When I was 15 people would tell me I look like Dolores, but that's because I had short red hair and people are unimaginative/love making celeb comparisons.

OTM about having a hard time really hating those mid-90s Dave singles. We should do worst Bush single or something.

Bush singles >>> DMB singles, but I'm something of a grunge acolyte...

the first 7 bush singles are good.