PAUL SIMON POLL RESULTS THREAD AND DISCUSSION

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I'll count it a victory if Julio tops BOTW.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot was like 80% S&G or Graceland, hate all you want but a) diehard-only polls are lame and b) i promise i will someday be better acquainted with PS's catalog

some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot was 15% S&G.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

idk its a song about memories, about before and after. there's artifacts and traces of past lives that become fossilised in those artifacts. how things were before. its like when sonny takes a look back on his yearbook photos in obvious child or the child of his first marriage. a kind of density of association, overstuffed with memory. here crystallised, here forgotten. but also like the mannequins of christopher street. its almost benjaminean: the trace the archive. an old photograph of them when they were younger. before and after. and how in that instant dancing alone in their room, the distinctions seem to fall away. i mean melodically it doesn't do much for me and i find the language a little clunky in places like someone said. a little heavy handed compared to the subtle allusions he works on other parts of that album.

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

al, i agree that diehard only polls are lame, i was just grumbling. also i guess someday i should become better acquainted with s&g's catalog. grumble grumble.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot was 5% S&G

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot was like 80% S&G or Graceland, hate all you want but a) diehard-only polls are lame and b) i promise i will someday be better acquainted with PS's catalog

― some dude, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:07 PM (4 minutes ago)

i think its just that paul simon threads can count on the same reliable posters and you get used to a certain consensus and its a little disorienting to be reminded that there are people out there that have some notion that hazy shade of winter is a better song than gumboots for eg.

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot was 5% s&g

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

its weird i didnt know they were so popular relative to solo simon

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

i don't have any problem with people voting for a lot of graceland btw; it compensates for me brutally slashing graceland from my ballot, about which i still feel guilty

xp because of people's parents! and how they're in all the movies!

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

i actually had more s&g than graceland

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

more psyched than usual to see everyone's ballots

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot was 40% graceland B-)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme is a good album dudes

some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

okay but someone explain "scarborough fair" to me

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

In my anecdotal observation of a very small sample group, solo Simon resonates more with Gen X demographic than with millenials (who are more likely to have the S&G best-of or even Concert in Central Park than Negotiations, eg).

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

are plax + Lamp millenials?

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't vote for "scarborough fair" but i don't think i can explain even the S&G songs i like

some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

his s/t is 25% of my ballot when i thought that would be rhythm of the saints. i guess i always forget how much ground he covers w/ it because its his most pared back instrumentally, but on graceland its like a couple of tracks will do in terms of standing in for the whole project, same with rhythm of the saints. whereas Paul Simon and Hearts and Bones subtly move out of these different moods and sounds in a way that's crucial to understanding what the project is about.

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

i really did want to vote for most of the s/t but i restrained myself

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

honestly i think my inability to grok 'scarborough fair" is same as the rest of s&g. garfunkel's voice freezes everything in amber or something; it gives it this museum-like quality that makes me care less about it.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

i just voted for what i was most into

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not into the whole "sound of silence"/"scarborough fair" vibe in general

some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

the s&g earnest dork vibe is tough to take

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

it's hilarious imo

some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

it is, in theory

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

im sort of a sucker for the sentimental.

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

i find the world weary sentimentality of his solo works so much more affecting

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

im not so discerning

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

wait r u switching to the s&g camp what happening here noooooooooo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

i can totally understand not liking scarborough fair; between its englishness and its old-ness its not very simony at all

max, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

garfunkel's voice freezes everything in amber or something; it gives it this museum-like quality that makes me care less about it.

That's part of my issue with BOTW. It's gorgeous and all, but inert.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

i can totally understand not liking scarborough fair; between its englishness and its old-ness its not very simony at all

― max, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:45 AM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes i want my simon frontloaded. all simon all the time! sad eyes happy face! shouldering little kids out of the way when they step on his spotlight!

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

its a little disorienting to be reminded that there are people out there that have some notion that hazy shade of winter is a better song than gumboots for eg.

o but it is

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

lol have you ever seen that video of him playing anji w his brother on some show?

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

i mean scarborough fair is one of not many songs from simon that has a sense of history beyond the beginning of the 20th cent. i voted high partly because i am a sucker for that oldness tho

max, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

u like museums

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

the s&g earnest dork vibe is tough to take

i find it endearing, actually. and the solo simon diffident hipster vibe can be similarly grating.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

i think its kind of cool/amazing that s&g were able to take this centuries-old song and make it into a fairly big hit, and even somewhat 'relevant' w/ the addition of 'canticle' (which is a little on-the-nose). also its gorgeous! i mean its so beautiful! its dorky but

max, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

haha i LOVE museums. i wish i had been a history major.

max, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

diffident hipster 4 lyfe

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

s&g can feel so academic whereas simon solo has a cheeky passion for gaudiness. his solo work often has this weirdly subtle approach to garish sound palettes.

judith, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

some very strange #1 choices so far imho

i really wish 'u like museums' had been intended as a diss

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

it was more of a connection between art garfunkel's museumy voice and max

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

now i am regretting voting for it just because ive convinced myself that its not really paul simon-like at all, so ancient and oblique

max, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

i never know what to do with myself in museums tbrr. i like history, though! i'm a fan. history's cool.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol i figured 'u like museums' was indeed a diss but its a diss im willing to embrace

max, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

it wouldve made a wonderful zing

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link


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