They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

u mad

I feel like Aliens is a great film but as far as the actual premise of the aliens being this insidious thing in the shadows, thinking of nothing else:
1 > 3> 2 > 4

3 screwed up by showing the alien ripping up people in the hallways too many times in the run up to the ending, but ehhh

Aliens also gave us the whole egg-laying thing!

think there might have been an egg in ALIEN iirc

There were gestating facehuggers but we didn't get the "alien craps out eggs through giant weird tube" thing

The egg sequence at the end was cut. Still in the Alan Dean Foster novelization I got for Christmas in '89, tho

obviously you spray an alien with acid and facehugger eggs fly off, just like when a mogwai gets wet

if you feed them after midnight they turn into a predator

Gremlins Vs Predator

wonder if the franchise would have been as successful if they stuck with the original title of STAR BEAST

I dunno, the A2>A3>A4 thing is popular consensus but I basically feel like Jeunet>Fincher>everybody>Cameron so whatever

I like Jeunet better than Fincher or Cameron too, but you gotta admit doing an Alien movie was not really playing up to his strengths.

If you're upset about Newt being killed in A3, you should read the original black & white Dark Horse Aliens comics by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson. They were made after Aliens but before A3, so they feature the grown-up Newt as the protagonist, with a pretty good plot that touches the origins of the Space Jockey and the Aliens too.

STAR BEASTS
STAR BEAST³
STAR BEAST: RESURRECTION

STAR BEAST 4: SEXY BEAST

boom!

Yeah, the DH comics were usually better written and more inventive than the sequels to Aliens.

Kinda wish they would have made "Earth War" at some point like the third one was teased as

Star Beast 4: Dancing With the Star Beasts

another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie

― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, March 19, 2012

OTM and I find A:R much less painful if I watch it as spoof.

Need to watch A3 again, I think. iirc Charleses Dutton and Dance ruled pretty hard?

"Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen"

oh man that's a great beer

That whiny "They're gonna get us, Man! We're gonna die, Maaaan!" guy in Aliens ruins that movie for me nowadays.

HEY watch what you say about Bill Paxton, friend

Alien Resurrection: get that shit away from me, made me hate Joss Whedon and his idiot fans ever since

LOL ppl blaming screenwriters for what ends up on the screen. Like, Whedon is the LEAST responsible person for what happened there.

I love Hudson

maaaaaaaaaaaaan

Whedon's fans are idiots though. I think we can all agree on that

wasn't resurrection based on a comic?

i am almost certain there was a comic about a dude who is studying captured aliens that also features a disabled character

worst thing about jeuneut is how he uses the same weirdo character actors over and over again

I like them in his "own" movies, but yeah, it was pretty weird seeing the clown protagonist from Delicatessen in an Alien movie.

Every director does that, you just hate Dominique Pinon

jeunet is really not that great guys

another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie

haha i've always thought this too

also

Alien = green
Aliens = blue
Alien3 = yellow
Alien4 = doesn't know what it is

sort of a diarhhea green

LOL ppl blaming screenwriters for what ends up on the screen. Like, Whedon is the LEAST responsible person for what happened there.

I've read this defence of him often, re Alien 4, so I tracked down his original script, and pretty much everything I hated is in there already. He just didn't GET why the first films are great; all he did was write a splatter movie with a few half-arsed pretensions.

Fincher almost made one without an android, but the android appearance is so cool I'll forgive it.

my mood after watching Alien 4 in the theatre on opening day was one of sneering disappointment that later turned to sadness. i haven't even rewatched it! yet i've learned nothing and am super excited about Prometheus.

you do know ppl are talking about "alien resurrection" not "alien3" right

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, March 19, 2012 12:40 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

clearly not! i missed that turn in the conversation, headed off into the dark woods alone. and yeah, was trying to say that the popularity of "gritty", "industrial" film, game and video design in the 90s owes a lot to alien³. like whatever alien resurrection might owe to quake-style game design, a fair amount of that probably circles back to the franchise via fincher.

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dunno why A:R would have anything to teach you about PROMETHEUS tbh. I am straight up 100% officially unwaveringly anticipating the hell out of this until I have any reason not to. So far so good imo.

does this take place before or after the alien v predator films thx in advance

those are not actually real. newt dreamed them while dying in hypersleep.

plus 3 and 4 while she was at it

i think the jeunet 4 is kinda good, idk. it's a cable staple now, nobody gives a fuck about 3 anymore

― goole, Monday, March 19, 2012 6:25 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its not even that jeunet is terrible or its a bad movie its that he was all lol alien imna deconstruct you not realizing that it was a great franchise that people loved prob because he didnt speak english

hoos otm tho its so 90s like a trip hop remix of some old great blues song

on IMDB a bunch of staunch defenders a few years ago accused Americans of hating Alien 4 because a Frenchman made it

u mean alien freedom homie

haha

yeah, i kind of like the wackness of alien 4. it's a cool, weird & entertainingly messed-up slice of sci-fi horror nonsense. it's only shitty if you try to take it geek-serious in a "this is some shit that really happened in the very important alien universe" sense.

alien 3, otoh, is seriously great for a good hour or so. then it catastrophically isn't. i'm not sure which is better or worse. neither's a patch on the first two.

hoos otm tho its so 90s like a trip hop remix of some old great blues song

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:52 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg yes

im gonna level w/you guys that was an actual cool idea i had in the 90s like you know what this mississippi john hurt could use beats modernize it a lil my god

luckily i had no idea how to remix anything

oh trip hop...

i liked it