They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

I really hated how dumbed down the aliens were in that movie. They look like slimy velociraptors. And the movie's so brown that in some shots they look like piles of shit with teeth. There's some really ugly cinematography in that movie.

I mean, it's a space monster movie, this shit's important

I caught a bit of alien 4 when it was on TV - breaks the rule of not showing the monster too much, right?

They also infamously tried to lock out the original writer, Dan O'Bannon, from getting credit.

Ah, well, fuck them, then.

The only shitty thing about the Alien series as far as I'm concerned is a coke-addled James Cameron going on a "they killed Newt / I will never forgive them" tirade. A1 is awesome, A2-4 are almost all equally watchable.

Oh, the part in A4 when the baby hybrid shows up was bad. xp

A2-4 are almost all equally watchable.

no

Although when I saw the movie in the theatre, the projector cinched up right at the moment of the big (crap) reveal, the light burnt the film and the movie ended. We got free passes to the next showing. It was a way better ending than Jeunet's xp

Wm Gibson did a draft of the Alien3 screenplay, iirc

The aliens killing one of their own to unleash enough acid to escape, after they've learned about the punishment button from creepy scientist dude

that part is awesome

the alien baby hybrid getting killed by mama ripley was ... sad :-(

Yeah that's crazy. A2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A3>>>>>>>>>>>insert vastness of space where no one can you scream>>>>>>>>>>>A4

was there anybody NOT involved with A3 iirc

tila tequila

I dunno, the A2>A3>A4 thing is popular consensus but I basically feel like Jeunet>Fincher>everybody>Cameron so whatever

i mean i've always sorta felt like 2 and 3 were just sorta "here is the Alien story, with a slightly different (action! apocalyptic!) angle on it

4 was like HI ITS THE 90S

i think the jeunet 4 is kinda good, idk. it's a cable staple now, nobody gives a fuck about 3 anymore

3 is awesome

i really gotta go watch all of them again, if i can (i've seen 1 & 2 so many times)

watched predator last night btw, à cause de l'action poll. fuck that is a terrific movie. only real flaw is that shot of the predator walking off while arnie is first caked in mud, he just looks wayyy too much like a dude skipping through the forest

i think the jeunet 4 is kinda good, idk. it's a cable staple now, nobody gives a fuck about 3 anymore

and the pupil becomes the master

"cable staples" could be a pretty good movie thread

should be stratified by era imo

James Cameron going on a "they killed Newt / I will never forgive them" tirade.

you act like cameron is the only guy who thought that sucked

i mean i've always sorta felt like 2 and 3 were just sorta "here is the Alien story, with a slightly different (action! apocalyptic!) angle on it

4 was like HI ITS THE 90S

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, March 19, 2012 10:23 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

i think alien 3's actually pretty good.

This is how it goes:

Alien: Fantastic
Aliens: Sequel perfection--everything is "bigger/louder/more", but done intelligently and with beautiful design work that fits with and expands the world/universe glimpsed in the first film
Alien3: interesting ideas, hopelessly compromised production, flawed but surprisingly good film (especially the not-really-director's-cut)
Alien Resurrection: get that shit away from me, made me hate Joss Whedon and his idiot fans ever since

exactly^

another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie

ALIEN is straight up a great (creeping terror haunted house let's take a B movie and make it A+) film. ALIENS is mostly bollocks and way too blue. Smaller/quieter/less is exactly what made ALIEN work. Shit give me just Tom Skerritt talking to Mother over all of ALIENS.

u mad

I feel like Aliens is a great film but as far as the actual premise of the aliens being this insidious thing in the shadows, thinking of nothing else:
1 > 3> 2 > 4

3 screwed up by showing the alien ripping up people in the hallways too many times in the run up to the ending, but ehhh

Aliens also gave us the whole egg-laying thing!

think there might have been an egg in ALIEN iirc

There were gestating facehuggers but we didn't get the "alien craps out eggs through giant weird tube" thing

The egg sequence at the end was cut. Still in the Alan Dean Foster novelization I got for Christmas in '89, tho

obviously you spray an alien with acid and facehugger eggs fly off, just like when a mogwai gets wet

if you feed them after midnight they turn into a predator

Gremlins Vs Predator

wonder if the franchise would have been as successful if they stuck with the original title of STAR BEAST

I dunno, the A2>A3>A4 thing is popular consensus but I basically feel like Jeunet>Fincher>everybody>Cameron so whatever

I like Jeunet better than Fincher or Cameron too, but you gotta admit doing an Alien movie was not really playing up to his strengths.

If you're upset about Newt being killed in A3, you should read the original black & white Dark Horse Aliens comics by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson. They were made after Aliens but before A3, so they feature the grown-up Newt as the protagonist, with a pretty good plot that touches the origins of the Space Jockey and the Aliens too.

STAR BEASTS
STAR BEAST³
STAR BEAST: RESURRECTION

STAR BEAST 4: SEXY BEAST

boom!

Yeah, the DH comics were usually better written and more inventive than the sequels to Aliens.

Kinda wish they would have made "Earth War" at some point like the third one was teased as

Star Beast 4: Dancing With the Star Beasts

another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie

― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, March 19, 2012

OTM and I find A:R much less painful if I watch it as spoof.

Need to watch A3 again, I think. iirc Charleses Dutton and Dance ruled pretty hard?

"Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen"

oh man that's a great beer

That whiny "They're gonna get us, Man! We're gonna die, Maaaan!" guy in Aliens ruins that movie for me nowadays.

HEY watch what you say about Bill Paxton, friend

Alien Resurrection: get that shit away from me, made me hate Joss Whedon and his idiot fans ever since

LOL ppl blaming screenwriters for what ends up on the screen. Like, Whedon is the LEAST responsible person for what happened there.

I love Hudson

maaaaaaaaaaaaan

Whedon's fans are idiots though. I think we can all agree on that