and now i make them both sound like royal geniuses, for having the ability to exhibit so much control. what i meant to say is that they're both cunts who committed reputation suicide for thinking such a shit ending was a great idea.
it's been a week since i beat the game - i'm just a little pizzed that it has no incentive for replayability. the first couple games i gave a good 2 runs a piece. too fun, being able to see all the outcomes of your actions.
― kelpolaris, Monday, 19 March 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
but i'm rather glad there are people willing to go to such lengths.
they should expend that kind of energy for something other than a goddamn video game. it's really first-world problem bullshit.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
picked up ME3 this weekend, really annoying how i have to sit through "Checking Downloadable Content...", "Checking Save...", "Checking Downloadable Content..." before i can load my game. this is even after i disabled automatically logging into EA servers
― grimes - (the elder scrolls iv:) oblivion (diamonddave85), Monday, 19 March 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:25 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I know. I'd want to slap the dude as a reality check if I ever knew him and he proposed such a plan. But videogames cost a lot, they required a lot of time investments - it's hard not to find yourself attached to it more so than any other project in another medium you've been disappointed by. You don't have to spend 30hrs with each Matrix sequel. You don't have to die, repeat, die, repeat a dozen times with the latest Radiohead groaner. I think it's absolutely silly to invest so much of your life in a fantasy world that you're willing to forward into legal action in order to maintain some sense of symbiosis with how much you care for this world and how much and where you ultimately want to see it proceed, BUT the investments nonetheless have been made on a $60/person admission fee and by the large majority of anyone who considers themselves a "gamer". I like the guy in that article for reason that I like somebody willing to risk dejection in order to throw a tomato at at deceitful politician - it sorta shows there's a more than vocal number of people who are don't want to take it up the ass any longer and simply content themselves with the fact that you've provided something for them to do.
But at the same time I can't believe I've typed such lengths to defend such a whiney little loser. The whole scenario, for me, has just been like watching a movie I've paid for - say, a police thriller - and having those "auteurs" at the helm blast Earth with comets, killing the whole cast in an ultimate attempt for commentary that nothing matters in the end. Fuck the Bioware writers.
/angrynerd
― kelpolaris, Monday, 19 March 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
i'm officially done attacking this game. it's a waste of time.
― kelpolaris, Monday, 19 March 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
instead i'll let this dude do it for mehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6M0Cf864P7E#!
annoying narration, but the guy is up there in redlettermedia-esque terms into truly delving into what's beyond nerd-raging and why this is just juevenile stuff bioware writers decided would be "memorable"
― kelpolaris, Monday, 19 March 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
that video, man
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 19 March 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
<I>You don't have to spend 30hrs with each Matrix sequel. You don't have to die, repeat, die, repeat a dozen times with the latest Radiohead groaner. </I>
Right, but the gameplay is not actually affected by the story.* If you are enjoying the shooting and magic enough to get through 30 hours, that's the game you paid for. If you're not getting enough out of the gameplay but are still interested in the story - dude that's what the Easy mode is there for.
* I haven't played the game yet, but I'm assuming that the twist isn't that you have to play through the entire game again at half speed.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 19 March 2012 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
does this game have the most noticable metacritic disparity ever? (91/3.7)
― thomp, Monday, 19 March 2012 08:57 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't beat this yet, but I can't wait to see the ending. Especially since it pissed so many annoying gamers off.
― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2012 11:34 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't actually played any of these games but i think what's pissing people off isn't a disappointing ending to the story but that a lot of big but specific promises were unfulfilled re: how much the different things players did over the course of three games would affect or even be involved in the ending. which is a sore spot because BRANCHING PLOTLINES! MORAL CHOICE! is something games have been promising fitfully at least since the beginning of the CD-ROM era; and hardly anybody gets it right, because doing only a little branching looks like a gimmick and doing a lot of branching is hard to implement. but i know from the advertising/coverage for this series that part of its brand is its ambition when it comes to player choice, character customization-by-playing, emotional connection, the impression of a unique experience, etc. -- it's hyped often enough that it's practically a technical boast, like when a game like CRYSIS makes a big deal about its graphics. plus it has this thing where your character from the first game can be carried all the way to the third, i guess, which is cool because it feels both high-tech and like a throwback to the portable-character feature in old ultima games ("journey onward"). anyway the strength of the plot, not just as a plot but as a magic recombining toy, is a big part of what the game is selling.
i watched that video: holy wow that guy's a redlettermedia fan, and also seems to think this deception is a capital crime -- plus some of the complaints are like THE PROTAGONIST WOULD NEVER DO THAT, which may of course be true but which only really add up to "this video game wasn't written as satisfactorily as we'd hoped", which is what these complaints probably all look like from the outside -- but it looks from the video like there really is a borderline-insulting lack of correspondence between the array of stuff people could do throughout three games and the stuff that happened to them at the end, after the designers spent all this time telling people there was going to be a big technical achievement in exactly this department. also apparently -- and this is either programming of a radiantly insulting sloppiness, or hilarious -- sometimes the game blithely announces your much-developed love interest is fucking another guy.
suing them is still pretty absurd i guess. they should have sued peter molyneaux over his long criminal career.
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Monday, 19 March 2012 12:29 (twelve years ago) link
Different people live and die and entire species may be eradicated based in your decisions. So what if the ending isn't divergent enough, it's more about the value of all the hours I've put into it leading up to it.
― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2012 12:41 (twelve years ago) link
Of course I haven't beat it yet. So maybe I'll be pissed off and make my own angry video.
― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
Had such an epic game of multiplayer last night. Beat the reapers on Silver, full extraction. Whee.
― polyphonic, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
Note that the metacritic disparity is due to a combo of people hating the ending and people hating THE GAY or somesuch
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
i'm enjoying some of the SRSLY EPIC missions in ME3
*spoiler* like in the genophage cure mission, the part where the mother thresher maw takes down the reaper was so bad ass *spoiler*
― grimes - (the elder scrolls iv:) oblivion (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
is there anywhere that concisely and clearly summarizes the ME3 ending controversy?
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
Recommend the video posted above by kelpolaris.
Its still a good game for those who've played the first two installments as gameplay is fine and it ties up a lot of loose ends. But you can quit after the foot race to the London conduit at the end, the finale does ruin a bunch of themes of the trilogy.
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
huh tried watching some of that but i need something with more context, i've never played any of these games.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/DamonLindelof/status/182263625082355712
― kelpolaris, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
Also (avert your eyes, spoiler averse!):
http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af134/gnosblax/yodawgme.jpg
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
It is pretty hard to not be spoiled by that huge image, I'm just saying.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
― thomp, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
not really a spoiler if you at least played just half of ME1
― kelpolaris, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://pastebin.com/i2cNVDp4
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
when you say spoilers below I don't check to see what it is if I am worried about spoilers, generally speaking.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
Digging multiplayer.
― Jeff, Friday, 23 March 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/19/whats-right-with-mass-effect-3s-ending/#more-99917
― thomp, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
I die a lot on multiplayer and jerk faces don't revive me.
― Jeff, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
I think if you play on silver then people are more likely to understand that they will die if you die. On bronze people have zero incentive to save you because they just might finish the level with or without you.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
I've almost got to 100% galactic readiness and I can be done with multiplayer.
― Jeff, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
I went from 50-100% readiness in 6 (or so) hours of multiplayer last night and today (25% xp bonus weekend). Fell in with some good players for most of the evening. Revived most of the time even on bronze. Probably would have been better if I had a headset.
Biggest faults: Aside from the reactor and Tuchanka map, they're all on the small side. I spent 100s of thousands in credits for random packages and never got a lightweight assault rifle (M-15 or M-96) suitable for an Adept. Stuck pling-plinging away with a Locust SMG.
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
I've got this pistol, I forget the name but it shoots projectiles that stick to the enemy then explode. It's been pretty sweet.
― Jeff, Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
this is circulatinghttp://i39.tinypic.com/1gnlw2.jpg
altho it's pretty lame how this "laid off so secrets of the universe revealed" phenom has been such a continual occurrence. i'm partial to this one as well, mostly considering a) dragon age 2 was far past an "alpha stage b) the volus antag thing sounds like some serious trolling.
― kelpolaris, Monday, 26 March 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
Are there spoilers in that link?
― Jeff, Monday, 26 March 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
heres a cool read http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/23/mass-effect-3-ending-what-do-game-writers-think/
that pastebin i posted up above is by a bioware writer who posted it on the pennyarcade forums, he admits that the ending was written by one guy with autism and wasnt reviewed by any of the other writers which is completely against hte norm for any of their mission writing
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 26 March 2012 06:05 (twelve years ago) link
i enjoy your gloss on it
― thomp, Monday, 26 March 2012 09:39 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
hilarious, heated "debate" in the comments thread over whether the asari in mass effect count as biologically female or not:
http://io9.com/5890426/why-did-bioware-add-a-gay-option-to-mass-effect-3?tag=space-opera
― Large Sack (Empty) (latebloomer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
kinda cool article about the gear used to make the music of ME3 http://toksin.tumblr.com/post/17925900472/the-music-of-mass-effect-3-synthtopia
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
ending was shite
― diamonddave85, Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Beat this last night finally. Didn't mind the ending, actually sort of hilarious. I thought it mimicked real life in that you really only had the illusion of free will throughout the game. Everything will almost always turn out the same anyway. With different color explosions.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
i wasn't so left with a feeling of being mugged as by the illusion of choice (just a half-assed move by bioware, there) than the closing scene involving joker and edi ready to get jiggy with it on a private island resort planet. and then those smarmy fucking credits: "Project Director: Casey Hudson" with the boogie-down music was the point in which blood started flowing to my head and i couldn't fucking believe they could ruin a series in a matter of minutes.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
you really only had the illusion of free will throughout the game. Everything will almost always turn out the same anyway. With different color explosions.― Jeff, Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:53 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Jeff, Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:53 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
SRSLY
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
to think that in ME2, when deciding whether save the genophage cure data, i actually went to length of putting down the controller and thinking it through whilst taking a piss, coming to the painful decision to save the data as i shook out the last driblets of urine
bioware, you dicks
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
Spoilers. Saving the genophage data does allow Eve (the fertile Krogan shaman) to live in ME3, and its pretty clear that the Krogan are doomed to more apocalyptic expansionist and/or intraclan warfare post Reapers without the females having a stronger voice.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
BioWare Announces Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut
― diamonddave85, Friday, 6 April 2012 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
Wow.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/the-gallery-of-questionable-shepards/#/0
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link