education is primarily a barrier to entry: true or false

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not math faculty

Euler, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:11 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah I mean it's not true across the board but it's a partial explanation why there's not internal pressure to make science ed more accessible at any given university. it costs money and doesn't bring immediate benefits, unless your university is starting out w/ a surplus of science resources.

iatee, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:16 (five years ago) Permalink

well they do generally charge lab fees for the labs

the late great, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:17 (five years ago) Permalink

trying to find a breakdown, I remember reading it somewhere

iatee, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:20 (five years ago) Permalink

science research otoh can bring in defense $$$$$ (and also other industry $$$$) while good luck getting grants for your novel interpretation of milton.

s.clover, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:36 (five years ago) Permalink

yes, on the research level the opposite is true

iatee, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

My late father was a mechanical engineer by training, but it's amazing how the field hasn't changed. Sure, they use computers a lot more. My dad worked part-time up to the last month of his life, he adapted to the CAD programs just fine!

Engineers must maintain their math schools their entire life! My dad used to sit down at night with a math book! I envied him, people think math is hopelessly dry, it's interesting if you view it as an expression of spatial relationships! If you're into art or design or photography you might want to maintain some math skills.

My dad put a lot of pressure on me to learn math. It keeps your brain sharp and doesn't have any ideological bullshit in it. I like doing the odd math problem.

We had a math test in design school and I got a C! I got a high score on my math SAT but I hadn't practiced in a while.

Math and science don't discriminate based on background, but sometimes a student's social climate discourages them from learning math. i.e., if you struggle with math you are stupid! Conceptually, it is easier than philosophy or literature...doing the problems is difficult.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Got Gym (Mount Cleaners), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

This seems quite salient here:

Masonic Boom, Sunday, 25 March 2012 09:33 (five years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

here's an interesting one

the late great, Friday, 3 August 2012 06:59 (five years ago) Permalink

i am pretty sure nobody really answers the final question in the comments but i didn't read all of them

the late great, Friday, 3 August 2012 07:02 (five years ago) Permalink

post secondary education facilitated entry ime ; )

buzza, Friday, 3 August 2012 07:14 (five years ago) Permalink

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