Burton and Depp keep on Burtoning and Depping in...Dark Shadows!

I would be more inclined to watch this if it starred Depp and Carol Channing.

the comic timing on this looks really sharp. thats most of the battle there. "dude from the past cannot comprehend our modern doodads" humor still works for me tbh. i'm much cooler with stale 70s pop culture jokes than i am with the fucking fudderwaken. and pfeiffer, hbc and green all look like they're havin some fun. peace

man see u

Most times, I'd rather watch stupid fun than some serious brooding bs.

Also, the 1972 date made me think of "Dracula AD 1972"

shit this movie looks pretty fun

xxpost I was not besmirching Carol in that AIW adaptation, it's near and dear to my heart!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgIBGjXIoEs

Between that and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-UMlJhgQbY

Carol Channing scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.

I loved her, but she was def weird as a kid growing up in the 80's

from best to worst:

Beetlejuice
Ed Wood
Edward Scissorhands
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
Big Fish
Mars Attacks
Batman Returns
Sleepy Hollow
Batman
Corpse Bride
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Alice in Wonderland
Sweeney Todd
Planet of the Apes

obviously you can kind of imagine how I'd describe his overall career trajectory.
i'm not much of a burton fan, but surprisingly it's really only the last five on that list that i pointedly never want to see again. i kind of liked big fish.

I'd put Sweeney in top 10 but otherwise I pretty much agree

i'd switch alice and apes around, and put batman returns a few spots higher

i dunno alice had the worst shit of his career but also some nice stuff in it. apes was just bad bad bad bad.

I'm too afraid to even see Apes.

Just catching up with this and I feel no love for Tim Burton but I'll say that Mars Attacks and Ed Wood are pretty all-time. Edward Scissorhands has some great moments - mostly Winona Ryder in the ice-sculpture snow with that Danny Elfman score - but I've never loved it like others have. Sleepy Hollow is solid and fun iirc, but I haven't seen it since it came out and however many years can really change a man. Dark Shadows looks pretty stupid but it can go either way (fun! or FUCKING TEDIOUS SHIT).

Biggest takeaway from all of this is

I was about 9 when "Dark Shadows" was huge and never gave a shit about it. Boring. So again, what is the allure of reworking something that has no cultural currency with the "target demo"?

Morbs is now annoyed that Hollywood isn't making something for the "target demo"

btw if this is terrible I will be disappointed if there isn't a review headline along the lines of "Plumbing the Depps"

in a way apes is the worst kind of bad movie - excruciatingly boring. but alice outright offended me with its badness. apes at least had some great ape makeup.

sleepy hollow's kinda fun, chivo lubezki is really its secret weapon though

yeah i don't anyone involved in the PotA remake really felt good about it. burton says it was the low point of his career. everybody just seems to wish it hadn't happened. maybe they'll say the same about alice in ten years, i dunno.

alice made more than a billion dollars theatrically, so probably not

I saw Apes when it came out, didn't read any reviews, just met up w friends beforehand and got slightly toasted. I had a blast.

"Batman Returns" is the best Burton imo. Recently I was showing someone clips of it on youtube and we ended up practically watching the entire thing that way.

ed wood is just such a special movie to me, it is so perfect.

beetlejuice and pee wee's are also all-time. those are my top 3 i guess.

much of pee wee is totally out of what became tim burton's artistic "character." i like the tonal and visual looseness, the fact that he doesn't think to control every element of the mise-en-scene.

I also think Pee Wee works well because there was already a really specific framework for him to work within, Pee Wee's Playhouse already had its look, and Burton put a great shine to it. Not to say Burton didn't do anything, but like with Sweeney Todd (and I know there's dissension on that but w/e), the bones are established enough to not tempt him to fuck with them. Which is why Alice in Wonderland pisses me off so much. He would have done a much better job leaving well enough alone.

ya it's a great collaboration, is what it feels like. xp

wait i believe pee wee's playhouse post-dated PWBA.

but i don't think the movie (except for a few passages) looks anything like the TV show!

xpost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGWbzUM-y8

this was comedy GOLD when i was seven

but i don't think the movie (except for a few passages) looks anything like the TV show!

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:42 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this too

'PWBA' is just about perfect.

Even if Large Marge and "Tequila" had been the only funny things in the movie it might still be all-time, but yeah, it's amazing from start to finish.

http://www.caseengaines.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Large-Marge.jpg

Edward Scissorhands
The Nightmare Before Christmas (controverhul)
Ed Wood
Beetlejuice
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure
Sleepy Hollow
Mars Attacks
Batman Returns
Sweeney Todd
Batman
Corpse Bride
Big Fish
Alice in Wonderland
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Planet of the Apes

amateurist's list was pretty much spot on. i've moved things around a bit, but not much. and regardless of who gets the director's credit, i figure the nightmare before christmas deserved to be counted as a "tim burton movie". dude's made 10 or 11 films i at least like. in that list, it's only at big fish that i start to have strong reservations.

Carol Channing is Johhny Depps Mom

You're johnny depp's mom

besides pwba mars attacks is the best...it's definitely his most cynical movie, and probably his funniest; it's like an alternate universe version of independence day (they make a great party night double-header btw).

also it's the one that least blatantly looks like a "tim burton movie"

I must admit, I am a woman and I did let a Depp got from my Utey

Not my idea of a successful publicity stunt.

I am saddened.

And that movie looks so bad.

there are posters ALL OVER buses and bus stops here in Chicago, kinda surprised at how big the ad campaign is so far

nobody in the US knows this show. movie is not going to do well.

dunno if that matters really

what was the last summer blockbuster based on little-known material that succeeded

you can strike "summer" from that entirely if you like

Iron Man was a minor player in the public's consciousness of the comic universe, methinks.

but tbh this will do nowhere near the box office Iron Man did.

again, remaking 40-year-old TV "properties" reminds me of Steve Martin's Sgt Bilko movie.

Iron Man was a minor player in the public's consciousness of the comic universe, methinks.

nah - Iron Man cartoons have been in TV rotation in America for at least a decade, and he's all over the comics. Nothing about Dark Shadows has been in wide distribution in America for decades.

Burton, Depp, vampires, comedy, how can it lose? I think the people that will stay away *are* the ones that are familiar with the source.