Worst ongoing plotline in the second season of Twin Peaks (SPOILERS)

Josie in a doorknob, incomprehensible?

yeah Josie subplot def a low point of the show, altho anytime it involved Piper Laurie and Ben Horn was lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVF0Mq4LJLM&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLD0DF7A893A958022

^^^ David Lynch directed a series of commercials for Japanese canned-coffee brand "Georgia." Perhaps a hint as to how Twin Peaks would have turned out if he'd stayed on the ball!

Miguel Ferrer AKA Albert, through learning bits about his career over the years, is one of the coolest mofos of all time. This year I found out he plays drums on Keith Moon's solo album, plus this little tidbit:

Another parallel with the life of Marilyn Monroe, though probably unintentional. Monroe was a friend of Rosemary Clooney, and was invited to her house for a party in 1955. Clooney had recently had a baby, and took Monroe upstairs to see him. He burst into tears when Monroe first cradled him, until he opened his eyes and saw Monroe, and simply stared back at here, wide-eyed. Monroe ended up spending the entire party upstairs with the baby. That newborn was none other than cast member Miguel Ferrer.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098936/trivia

wait does that mean George Clooney and Miguel Ferrer are brothers

the resemblance is uncanny

wait does that mean George Clooney and Miguel Ferrer are brothers

― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, March 16, 2012 3:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cousins, apparently

hence the different surnames

brothers can have different surnames

yeah, thought everyone knew Rosemary was George's aunt though

there is a story that Rosemary hired starving-actor nephew George to be her lawn/shrubbery guy one summer, and he only cut the parts she could see from her window.

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Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Oh yeah! IIRC i based the close of this poll on the date Cooper emerges from the Black Lodge, acccording to some fan timeline dealie.

It is happening again.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

wait you forgot the "norma's mother is secretly a restaurant critic" subplot! do overs.

Oh GOD, yeah, what the hell was the point of that again?

Kind of amazed by the turnout - didn't know so many people on here cared! Thanks for voting, everyone.

(Who voted for Harry drunkenly moping around, though?)

Sometimes I feel shame for not hating James as much as the rest of the world does.

Oh GOD, yeah, what the hell was the point of that again?

the point was that there was no point.

I am unashamed of my lack of hate for James. If James were a chick of comparable attractiveness, I bet he would be hated less.

Although the Miss Twin Peaks plot sucked, the actual scene was kind of awesome. An underrated twin peaks moment imo.

BAH I have to stop opening this thread, I get horrifying flashbacks from this show.

i thought the Miss Twin Peaks plot was hilarious

even more than what happened to coop and annie, i ALWAYS wondered if audrey horne & pete martell died in the bank explosion

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzid6gZULy1qg78udo1_500.gif

Thing is, I never hated hated James until the infamous out-of-town plotline. I was getting bored with him and Donna and Maddy, but he himself was fine and had been in some good scenes.

Also agree with this Although the Miss Twin Peaks plot sucked, the actual scene was kind of awesome. An underrated twin peaks moment imo. It definitely delivers the goods, but mannnnn all that stuff with Windom creeping on the girls, so much potential there but it never really gelled.

Mainly it just drove me up a wall that Cooper & Truman never seemed to be really seriously investigating any of that! Like, why not have keep the girls under watch or have Hawk tail them, or something? There was this weird sense late in the show that the different plotlines actually existed in parallel universes - people have mentioned how Norma seems totally oblivious to her sister being kidnapped, and I think that sort of pervades the rest of this thing. It's weird, for example, that nobody takes the slightest notice of Nadine's impossible superhuman strength. I kind of like the idea upthread that it could be explained away as a White Lodge thing, and a tighter master plot chart for the season could have had it at least getting name-dropped somewhere else. You know - - Cooper snaps his fingers, goes "Harry, you're a genius! Nadine's strange transformation, Major Briggs's experience - it all adds up."

also, that gif is amazing, wd subscribe to an all-Twin Peaks animated gif tumblr

http://twinpeaksgifs.tumblr.com/

there's this part when harold realizes they've taken laura's secret diary and he tosses his body against his orchids and shouts "NO!" that would make THE funniest gif

^^^

would also lol at face-scrape with garden tool shot

http://twinpeaksgifs.tumblr.com/

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, March 26, 2012 4:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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deserves to become general-purpose posting meme

yes

I remember I thought that was kind of a lame use of the dream giant in the show.

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awesome

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even more than what happened to coop and annie, i ALWAYS wondered if audrey horne & pete martell died in the bank explosion

― humba (NZA), Monday, March 26, 2012 2:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

of course they did

There was a fish in the detonator!

p.s. no wayyyy, they totally would have survived!

I'm watching this show for the first time, on netflix instant viewing, and am now slogging through the dregs of the second season. Up until now I think I would have gone with Nadine as worst plot line. The James thing is awful but kind of irrelevant and sidelined, like it's happening on a different show. Nadine is something that makes no sense and is in the midst of everything. And the "comedy" of the scene where she was introduced to the wrestling team was pretty much excruciating, some of James' scenes seem almost funny in comparison.
But, I also really hate Josie as Catherine's maid and everything to do with her this season. I know a lot of people hate this character and performance anyway but I think they were sort of well suited in the earlier episodes, here it is horrible all around. Like the Nadine situation, it seems to compromise/contaminate other characters. More self contained plot lines, like the love triangle and the civil war, don't seem as bad in that they don't compromise previously established characters as much.
The Windom Earle thing would, so far, be better if it didn't involve Leo Johnson.

just want to highlight this post in case anyone that's interested in the odd turns that the 2nd season takes missed it upthread:

Also, amateurist, I think you may be on to something wrt the plot fugue playing a big role in the declining viewer interest, but I think Lynch more or less abandoning the show to work on Wild at Heart (and I think some other stuff...Industrial Symphony, maybe?) played the bigger role in its demise. The two causes were probably pretty intertwined, honestly.

from reading about this in the books Lynch on Lynch and the biography Beautiful Dark, this seems to be accurate.

one pleasant paragraph in Beautiful Dark suggests that when David Lynch (as the FBI boss) tells Cooper to ditch the open collared plaid shirts and get back to the crisp white t-shirt and black suit combo, that's a not-so-subtle comment on the loss of direction of the show under the various directors and writers that took charge while he was off doing Wild at Heart

It certainly feels like it was under the control of people who didn't understand what made the show and its characters work.
Josie and Nadine were both pretty limited as characters, for different reasons,but I think they worked quite well as one note characters with little screen time. In the second season they not only become grating and annoying with the larger roles but are taken in completely different directions to which they are totally unsuited.
Even with characters like Cooper and Harry, there are moments that ring false, like poor replications.

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otm

I have to admit the pine weasel event, and the weasel-cam shot in particular, is at least as "funny" as all the other Lucy-Andy shit.

just want to highlight this post in case anyone that's interested in the odd turns that the 2nd season takes missed it upthread:

_Also, amateurist, I think you may be on to something wrt the plot fugue playing a big role in the declining viewer interest, but I think Lynch more or less abandoning the show to work on Wild at Heart (and I think some other stuff...Industrial Symphony, maybe?) played the bigger role in its demise. The two causes were probably pretty intertwined, honestly._


from reading about this in the books Lynch on Lynch and the biography Beautiful Dark, this seems to be accurate.

I think I mentioned it before in one of these threads, but the episode with the pine weasel fundraiser is the only one I saw (in part) when the show was originally airing. It did not quite synch up with my general impression of what Twin Peaks was all about.