Community, the tv show

that was awesome

^^^ otm

"How did I get to be holding those giant bags of money?"

also when Dean throws shirley that line about her fiscal whatever and she says 'that doesn't make any sense'

Well, admittedly neither show holds a candle to the revolutionary and mindblowing Revenge..........

this is overstated but still p much true

the dig on last nites 30 rock about character growth on sitcoms was p good, this whole increasingly solipsistic and grotesque interest in character 'growth' on sitcoms is horrible this is not what makes shows good you sad ppl

None of Jeff's growth over 2 and a half years mattered

this happens almost every episode.

sorry guys, i hate it when people are like "uh this show sucks now" and it's weird to say it about community because it's always been wildly inconsistent in tone and quality but i agree that seeing this again after it being gone for a chunk of time is kind of making me feel like "huh that's what i was missing? i wish parks and rec was on instead"

jim rash was funny though.

I don't know, I do think it was a less-than-stellar episode, but I really don't understand how this one single episode since the hiatus could make you question your enjoyment of the show in its entirety.

If you view the series as being primarily about people figuring out how to live and interact with one another in a healthy and harmonious way (which I assert is the intended overarching theme), just about every episode is a success. This episode is no exception.

i'm not questioning that i've enjoyed it in the past, i'm questioning whether maybe it should just be canceled and done because they don't seem to going anywhere or doing anything or recognizing/repairing the flaws in the show.

I AM NOT ARGUING ABOUT COMMUNITY ON THE INTERNET

I haven't watched last night's episode but this season so far has been scattershot enough that if they DID cancel it, I wouldn't be like "not in its PRIME!!!!" Though I'm not at a point where I don't want to see where it goes with the episodes made.

I don't know, I feel like, as a hoy hoy kinda was getting at, there have always been these "middling" episodes from time to time that kind of take up room between the epic laughfests. This was another one of those and I think its too early to write if off just yet.

Somewhere an Onion AV Club writers/commenter just threw up a little.

i think we can safely assume that 24/7

the dig on last nites 30 rock about character growth on sitcoms was p good, this whole increasingly solipsistic and grotesque interest in character 'growth' on sitcoms is horrible this is not what makes shows good you sad ppl

― Lamp, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:39 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

increasingly solipsistic and grotesque interest != not what is happening here btw. 1 part of many points of interest = what is happening here.

I AM NOT ARGUING ABOUT COMMUNITY ON THE INTERNET

coming in and otming a "challops" post about it being a shitty show after a string of threads about people enjoying it probably isn't your best way to approach it then, tbh

speaking of jim rash this thread is more annoying than a gym rash

i'm not questioning that i've enjoyed it in the past, i'm questioning whether maybe it should just be canceled and done because they don't seem to going anywhere or doing anything or recognizing/repairing the flaws in the show.

And

absence makes the heart realize this is kind of a shitty show

I don't have time to find and post a Community 'you're the worst' gif here but just pretend I did.

again, i hate it when people are dicks about something people are excited about so sorry for being a buzzkill. i have gotten a lot of enjoyment from this show in the past and wanted to talk about feeling weird about just feeling meh/disappointment about it now, not trying to be like "you guys are dumb for liking this."

"i am not arguing about..." is not a phrase of denial in my usage, it's like a self-affirmation to try and keep yourself from arguing about something you don't want to argue about.

dude you otm'd a challop

I think a bad episode of community is still better than most tv. I enjoyed this episode. I just don't think i'll rewatch it, mainly because i think if i did I'd find more things that bother me than amuse me.

I hold Dan Harmon to a higher standard, much like I do Sorkin, Whedon, David Simon etc. Dude can create week-in week-out EVENTS of true ability, so when he doesn't and just treats us to nice filler, I kinda want to kneejerk and hate. Maybe it was because the first episode back. They have always been a bit slow out of the gates but I still expect these folks to pull out something special.

its not really that challenging is the thing

lol I hate Sorkin so much, using him as a positive indicator is my definition of "damning with faint praise"

"why couldn't they have reached the heights of the episode of the West Wing where the Republican girl realized 'zomg these Democrats WORK HARD and are PASSIONATE, maybe I should ADMIRE them'"

guys you can like something and still admit its weaknesses. fandom doesn't have to be an all-or-nothing proposition.

I still expect these folks to pull out something special.

Well, the episode prior to this was the Glee/x-mas dealie, preceded by foosball, and before that, "Hearts of Darkness." Granted, anything following that run is going to seem anticlimactic. But to paraphrase Louis CK, will you give them a second? They're going to space!

ha ha come on

Even this amazing run in S2 had that awful episode with Pierce's Asian fiancee in the middle of it.

"why couldn't they have reached the heights of the episode of the West Wing where the Republican girl realized 'zomg these Democrats WORK HARD and are PASSIONATE, maybe I should ADMIRE them'"

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:57 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this is just the drama version of 'the groom realises that the bride is MORE THAN A MOTHER AND A HOUSEWIFE and that he still wants to marry her AS AN INDEPENDANT WOMAN'

I think Freaks and Geeks is the only tv show to make it through without a shitty episode, and that got cancelled before it had the chance.

I thought Britta the wedding planner savant was hilarious

I also liked seeing Shirley really take the reins of the sandwich shop pitch and show serious potential as a credible fictional small business owner

I also liked Jeff's drunken line dancing

I'd give this episode a solid B

If you view the series as being primarily about people figuring out how to live and interact with one another in a healthy and harmonious way (which I assert is the intended overarching theme), just about every episode is a success.

replaying the same unconvincing emotional beats episode after tedious episode is sorta whats ruined this show. the characters are too thin and uninteresting to sustain it, the whole 'these people realizing theyre a surrogate family' thing is entirely w/e. idk i agree w/ n/a i used to really like this show, i like its structural gimmicks and worldbuilding and when it goes hard on jokes, the absurdity and pastiche. but i didnt really miss the show when it was gone and last nite i looked and realized that there was 7 minutes left of an episode that had already felt like an hour and turned it off, happily.

then the next day at work i went on a msg board and complained about it at length

It is a sitcom ppl. can we lay off looking for structural innovation and worldbuilding please?

after they've been really good at both in the past...not really

lol

i have an extremely low tolerance in picking shows to watch but when i find one i like, i cant imagine just stopping caring. the only one i've really given up on is how i met your mother. even if it drops off a little in quality or places to go, usually i'll stick it out.

eh, I found enough things to laugh at/enjoy in this episode that I didn't particularly mind/care that it was largely played straight

still lolling at Britta's "oh whatever, just take some of this crap and some of this junk and here's your stupid centerpiece"

i looked and realized that there was 7 minutes left of an episode that had already felt like an hour and turned it off, happily.

Too bad. You missed the credits gag, which apart from being the funniest, most complex, and most layered joke the show has ever done, also focused and expanded on the intense neuroses of one of the characters to such an intense degree that I literally wept. It's no exaggeration to say that you will find every episode from this point forward to be utterly impenetrable without the understanding that this gag brought.

lol

hahahaha

you will find every episode from this point forward to be utterly impenetrable

just like the rest of america amirite

just to clarify, i don't mind when community plays straight. the only episodes that really had me clawing my face was the "model un"/"detective chang" two-fer, which just went too far down the Family Guy path for my taste

I basically have zero time for complaints and critiques someone who couldn't make it through the whole thirty minutes of the thing they're critiquing. Even my ADD ass thinks that's pretty sad.

You missed the credits gag, which apart from being the funniest, most complex, and most layered joke the show has ever done, also focused and expanded on the intense neuroses of one of the characters to such an intense degree that I literally wept.

Peel back some of the layers for us, please.

I wept just reading your description.

(Goddamnit, I have to stop ILXORing on a phone. It's making me look like I don't understand basic sentence construction.)

Peel back some of the layers for us, please.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:20 (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ice cream
more ice cream
a cone
more ice cream
another cone
a drip tray
the table the machine is on
the floor
the concrete layer
dirt
crust
upper mantle
mantle
outer core
inner core
god

The ice cream looked like poop.

One thing I think a lot of people are missing is that this ep wasn't supposed to be some big comeback or anything, it's just the next one in the queue. It was probably all put together before the hiatus and was supposed to run in January. As January shows go, it was very January indeed.

last night I was all 'yay community's back'
I show up itt to be all 'omg you guys it's back yay' only to find it barely alive and vivisected
just like old times
love you guys so much