The super-basic questions thread for non-cooks

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It certainly isn't complicated I agree, and yet...

Fizzles, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Gah you guys are being such pedants! It's a thread for ppl who don't cook, give them a break ffs!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

the thought of washing up puts me off even stirring pesto into pasta in the pot, also any and all frying, also anything requiring "separate bowls"

lex pretend, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

frying is super messy, i agree

do you use dishwashing gloves? i find that they reduce the yuck factor at least a little.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

it's not really the yuck factor so much as the...lazy factor. i don't mind scrubbing stuff. but even leaving it a couple of hours after the meal makes it so much more of a hassle - it's just Another Thing to remember doing and i have enough of those generally

lex pretend, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

then i cannot help you
you have to consider cooking to be a valuable activity if you are going to motivate yourself to do it

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's why you have to do it pretty much right after. it's one of those grown-up things like actually opening mail.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

oh lex

i am the dishwasher in our household, and while i don't mind it (gets me out of shit like cleaning floors), i'm always amazed how many dishes we generate in one day (or one meal).

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

like a couple pots and pans for heating things up, plates, salad bowls, and small bowls or ramekins for the all-important dipping sauces

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

it's one of those grown-up things like actually opening mail.

oh god i am terrible at this too!

if someone else has been good enough to cook for me i'm happy to do all the washing up but doing it all myself, punctuated by 10 minutes of eating...

i wish at some point in my life i'd had someone to cook with but right now it's just years of resentment built up at hearing "it's so easy" "it's an essential life skill" "why don't you cook" etc etc etc

lex pretend, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

fuck opening mail

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Just try it, and make it a part of your routine. Make sandwiches! Make salads. Make anything.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Start with things that are based on assembly and require no extra dishes to wash, then work your way up from there.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

i'm hard on you lex because i've been there. there have been checks i failed to cash in time purely because i left the envelope lying unopened for like three months

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

if i could think of any cookbook to give lex it might be the long out of print "a cookbook for poor poets (and others)", which has a whole section on "one pot meals" and whose initial injunction is to have always, at a minimum, some bread, some butter, and a bottle of wine

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

For example:

Get a rotisserie chicken and pick off all the chicken. Use it to make salads! Tacos/tostadas! Sandwiches. Whatever. You do not have to actually cook the chicken to make things with the chicken. You just have to actually have edible food in your kitchen and put it together and then eat it.

I also hate opening mail btw. Love cooking, though.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

problem with always having some bread if one is not actually a poor poet is that it translates to one always having some stale bread, and one always throwing a lot of bread away.

ledge, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

Ducks, ledge, ducks.

Fizzles, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

Though if you try feeding the ducks in London it quickly becomes a scene from The Birds.

Fizzles, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

i freeze bread! sometimes on the day of purchase, sometimes if i've had it lying around for a few days and know i won't be able to finish it before it gets mouldy. then it's just raw toast

lex pretend, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

there have been checks i failed to cash in time purely because i left the envelope lying unopened for like three months

my entire life

lex pretend, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

I lost (paper) plane tickets about 13 years ago because they were buried under a pile of mail I was avoiding. When I found them, I wrote NEVER LOSE ANYTHING EVER AGAIN on the envelope and I still have it.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

and the plane tickets

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

organising my life is a process. i'm just about getting there w/r/t finances. i know where my keys are about 60% of the time which is a huge improvement.

i actually really like...unmixed food? idk whether this is odd. i like eating ingredients separately and will often do so way before i realise they can be put together.

lex pretend, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Fine then, focus on things that require assembly rather than 'cooking'

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

Or just eat a handful of chicken

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

then a handful of lettuce followed by a handful of bread. it will make a sandwich in your stomach.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

You do not have to actually cook the chicken to make things with the chicken.

This is the truest fact I have seen in all week. It's now on my office wall.

Jaq, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

Re. bread freezing. Slice bread, put 2-3 slices per bag into freezer bag, can be debagged and toasted from frozen. Takes only a few seconds longer to toast than fresh bread.

This assumes you need to slice your own bread, I don't buy sliced, but if you do - even easier!

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

rice cooker oatmeal 4 life

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Rotisserie chicken, if you can get a well-seasoned and tasty one that doesn't turn to pools of fat in the bag, from a pretty good grocer, is like the most useful thing ever. It makes SO MANY OTHER THINGS and can last one person like A WEEK.

Then if you are slightly more than a non-cooking cook, you can freeze those suckers to make stock with later without ever cleaning or roasting the chix yourself.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Plus they're like $5 or $6 usually!

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

We get them at Costco (it's on my way home from work) - inexpensive, hot and tasty. Chop meat + skin, mix with broccoli, cream, shredded cheese of some sort, bake if feeling fancy, nuke for 6 minutes if not, eat.

Jaq, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

I like the costco chickens but since I rarely drive during the week, I just roast my own - it's pretty simple.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I don't get home until well after 7 most nights anymore. We end up mostly roasting chicken thighs now instead of whole birds.

Jaq, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I do that a lot too. Good portion control and they cook pretty fast.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

I don't get the hate for washing dishes upthread, I love washing dishes. anyway, I've never been able to get emulsifying a dressing? Any tips?

JacobSanders, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

do you add mustard?

just sayin, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes, depending on what sort of dressing I'm trying to make, but most of the dressings I've made from scratch failed to taste like I want them to.

JacobSanders, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

I don't usually make "dressing" -- just oil + vinegar. Sometimes I've made vinaigrettes, but usually I just whip with a fork.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

i whip my food back and forth

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

xxpost well mustard helps it emulsify

just sayin, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

Just oil and vinegar gets old, I like flavor, like blue cheese vinaigrette or cucumber poppy seed vinaigrette or avocado vinaigrette, but they never work.

JacobSanders, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

maybe you just need to shake them up in something, for a longer amount of time?

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

I never thought of using a shaker!

JacobSanders, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

I use old jelly jars with screw-on lids. Spoonful of mustard right out of the jar + glug glug of red wine vinegar + 3 shakes of salt and 4 turns of pepper = shake up really well. Then glug glug glug of olive oil. Shake again. Taste. If too sharp and acidic, add more oil. If too tongue-coaty, add more vin.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Not all mustard/jelly jars seal liquid-tight, fyi. Shake over sink if yours leaks.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

I've always used a whisk

JacobSanders, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

lemon instead of vinegar can freshen up a salad, esp in summer with some torn up basil amidst the other leaves.

Fizzles, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

Nuh uh. This was the jelly jar is what the dressing is stored in. So if you end up having to add some ingreds to get it to taste right, you save the rest for later, it's not wasted. And it keeps for weeks and weeks. Just shake up again to use.

xp I love lemon acidity too but shhh was trying not to overwhelm w options.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link


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