Interesting they talked to FACT, given that FACT made some disparaging "techno grandads" remarks about them a month or two ago.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 16 March 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently 'Beeledub' is the dubstep version of Satan they played at Glastonbury last year, which wasn't great IIRC.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
I thought that would be a remix of the B-side "Beezlebub" that somehow didn't make it on The Altogether
― frogbs, Friday, 16 March 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
btw it sucks that this is only going to be like 50 minutes long
― frogbs, Friday, 16 March 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
Oh I'm quite happy with that idea.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
short and sweet beats long and noodly
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
#ilxpostsoutofcontext
I dunno, just hoping it's not like the new Underworld album where it sounds like they made a conscious decision to keep things short and wound up neglecting a lot of what really made them great in the past, which bothered me because the material itself was really very good
― frogbs, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
I'm guessing they'll vary in length a bit?
If the Maida Vale set is anything to go by they've started playing 'Sad But True' live again. <3
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
i never did hear that new underworld...
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
It's pretty good, better than anything else since Beaucoup Fish, but it falls down because by and large it's not very like them, there are too many other producers getting in the way, so it feels a bit like a remix compilation. Which clearly won't be the case with the Wonky, no matter whether it's any cop or not.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
Always interesting to check out although "In Sides" was the last time they were top notch.
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpQQy52T0Ts
Loads of new stuff in here, at least four tracks... sounds amazing.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
Also the dubstep Satan turns into a really awesome hardcore Satan about midway through.
http://pitchfork.com/news/45774-video-orbital-and-zola-jesus-new-france/
I missed this
btw I love it
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Matt I'm just getting to that set you posted upthread, holy shit
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus you guys weren't kidding about that Maida Vale set.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://open.soundrop.fm/s/orbital Ahead of the release of their 8th studio album "Wonky", Orbital are hosting a very special live webchat event on Spotify.Join the Orbital Soundrop room on Spotify on Thursday 29th March at 4pm to chat with the band live - and get your chance to ask them about their experiences from the last 25 Years at the heart of British dance music, and their triumphant return to the studio after an 8 year hiatus.We'll also be hosting a truly democratic Orbital playback - where you can listen along and vote for your favourite Orbital tracks - creating the ultimate Orbital playlist - voted for by the fans, for the fans.Soundrop is an app on Spotify to share, discover and experience music together with friends. Soundrop takes the original concept of the jukebox and brings it to the web in a social and democratic way. Find it in Spotify’s App Finder.
Join the Orbital Soundrop room on Spotify on Thursday 29th March at 4pm to chat with the band live - and get your chance to ask them about their experiences from the last 25 Years at the heart of British dance music, and their triumphant return to the studio after an 8 year hiatus.
We'll also be hosting a truly democratic Orbital playback - where you can listen along and vote for your favourite Orbital tracks - creating the ultimate Orbital playlist - voted for by the fans, for the fans.
Soundrop is an app on Spotify to share, discover and experience music together with friends. Soundrop takes the original concept of the jukebox and brings it to the web in a social and democratic way. Find it in Spotify’s App Finder.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
maybe I will be sick Thursday
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
mmmm.
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
djp will just ask them about dr who.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
"what's he REALLY like"
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
then Aldo will join and say how much nu-who sucks
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9675nvyses
OMG.
Now that's how to do a fucking build.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:40 (twelve years ago) link
This has leaked by the way and 'Stringy Acid' is sending me in paroxysms of 90s throwback techno joy. It would be a standout on the Brown album, it's that good.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:49 (twelve years ago) link
STOP TALKING ABOUT IT! I am embargoing it until I can buy it in a record shop on Monday.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 31 March 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
Nick it's hardly my fault you refuse to live in the modern world!
I felt the same as Matt DC but this is an amazing record - their best since In Sides. The title's a red herring because there's very little goofy humour and lots of what they're best at without being too self-referential. I'd be interested to see what younger listeners make of it because it doesn't sound nostalgic at all.
Cosign this entire post really. My copy arrived in the post this morning actually. I've listened to it twice and it is astonishingly good, definitely best since InSides. It's merely very good for the first four tracks or so and then really takes off from Distractions onwards.
There's a bit of almost everything they're good at actually - extreme prettiness (Never), aching Adnan's-style sadness (Distractions), widescreen rave (Stringy Acid) and proper hands-in-the-air anthems - I want at least 10 minutes more of the last track, Where's It Going? which is kinda like the first half of Impact with the cinematic swoop of Out There Somewhere pt. 2.
Also, Stringy Acid aside, I'm surprised how contemporary it sounds, partly because most of the elements of their sound are vogueish again, in M83-style indie electronica when not in dance music itself. And the nods to current music (wobbly dubstep on Beelzebub, Azealia Banks style electro on the title track) work because they maintain the personality of the rest of the album.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 31 March 2012 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
You're torturing me.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:02 (twelve years ago) link
i really love this
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link
i mean i guess this should've been obvious because this is an orbital record but listening to the disconnected youtubes kind of misses out on the incredible weaving they do between tracks
for instance before now it was hard to tell how similar the outro of "straight sun" and the intro of "never" were
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link
Excited.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link
This is the first album they've done that actually flows like an album in absolutely ages. I would have given it a colour name if I were them. A colour that's patently not as good as green or brown.
Orange maybe.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link
There's a bit of almost everything they're good at actually
^^ this. i only listened to it once, so i still don't know if i prefer it over 'middle of nowhere'. i could do without 'belzedub', tbh. 'stringy acid' is all i could hope for a rave throwback - and even better that what such "statement" could imply.
― rusty_allen, Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
*even better than
― rusty_allen, Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
damn, still waiting for my copy...so this is better than The Altogether I take it? :D
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
another one hour thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XT_ZKP9_Oo
― StanM, Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
listened to the album yesterday. fucking love it.
― caulk the wagon and float it, Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
Absolutely fantastic.
― Tim F, Sunday, 1 April 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
The build on One Big Moment is just masterful, I love how they keep adding more and more layers an then suddenly there's one chiming synth line over the top that changes the melodic complexion of the track altogether. I wish they'd taken a bit more time with it actually, if there's one mild criticism I might have of this record it's they could have been a bit more patient with the pacing of some of the tracks, Where's It Going? in particular could have a much slower build and a longer outro.
But this is already above Middle of Nowhere for me, which sagged quite badly in the middle with I Don't Know You People and Otono.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
True but the highs ("Spare Parts Express", "Know Where To Run", "Nothing Left") on Middle of Nowhere probably were higher for the reason you cite - the build on those tracks is at once astonishing and yet totally inevitable sounding. There's a slight "radio edit" quality to the tunes here.
― Tim F, Sunday, 1 April 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link
Though it's not really a bad thing that with nearly every track I'm thinking "oh, that ended too soon."
― Tim F, Sunday, 1 April 2012 11:53 (twelve years ago) link
At the same time I'm not sure many of them actually need to be much longer - its only really the first and last tracks that would benefit from it really.
Conversely Beelzedub feels longer than it actually is and not in a bad way particularly, because there are so many sections to it and all of them feel exactly the right length. Also I love that you're sitting listening to the drill and bass bit and wondering if it could get any more gleefully ridiculous and then they throw the Kirk Hammett guitars in there as well.
Also, Distractions is a really astonishing piece of music.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link
Flood probably had a hand in tightening the structures and keeping the song short.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
Duh @ StanM reposting that Maida Vale thing and not even noticing until now. Wtf, dude.
― StanM, Sunday, 1 April 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
glad i listened to this, i doubt i'd have bothered without the leshurr hook. i think it sounds pretty dated in places and "beelzedub" got serious side-eye from me, but "straight sun" is amazing and the leshurr track is easily the best - that build!
― lex pretend, Sunday, 1 April 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
This is pretty good! It does feel a bit like it's missing that final mysterious ingredient to take it to "really great", but In Sides didn't click for me until I had it on the Walkman (lol 90s) for a coach journey through brilliant sunshine and scenery, and this one sounds like it's going to go well with summertime walks, so I'm hoping it'll really hit me then.
Though I do kind of prefer my Orbital with no hints of the 21st century, so I'll admit I prefer it if I skip Beelzedub (second half with the breaks is ok tho) and the Lady Leshurr track. I am aware this says more about me being a corny indie fuck than about the album.
― instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 1 April 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
you guys are getting me hella psyched here!title cut sounds great.
― 1 week to "Charles Dingus" (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
ne-v-er
― moullet, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
I like how this album is a bit of a parental rebuke of Scuba.
"Straight Sun" is amazing, yes.
― Tim F, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
― StanM, Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:35 (Yesterday)
this is a DJ set btw not a live session
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 2 April 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, yeah! I seriously wasn't expecting that to get such a strong negative response, and was more looking for a discussion on how well Wonky has held up over the last few years - and personally, I think it's held up very well. I'm still listening to it, I'm still enjoying it, and of course I find it (naturally) leagues ahead of albums like The Altogether and the album that came after it.
Of course, artistically it doesn't touch the trio of Orbital II, Snivilisation and In Sides, but it's still a favourite and still a worthy addition to their catalogue. It's a great record.
As for Scik Mouthy and his spontaneous cry into the abyss, it's difficult to muster up any other reaction other than "meh" ... I've never been bothered by his opinions as a music critic, and I care even less about his opinion of me.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
i like wonky a lot but it's hard for me to even entertain the idea that it's their best album
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link
I didn't say it was their best, I said it was one of my favourites - which is true, given how much I've listened to the thing.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
ah, well; that makes sense then.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
yeah I'm w/ Turrican on this
IMO there's 3 tiers of Orbital albums:
Sniv/In SidesBrown/MON/WonkyGreen/Altogether/Blue
the first & second tier albums are all excellent, of course
IMO Wonkey is either the 3rd or 4th best Orbital album, depending on how I feel about Middle of Nowhere. I kinda like how the brothers decide to keep things short, for once.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
I've been listening to Wonky in the car for the last week or so (for the first time in a couple of years).
I'd forgotten how good an album it was and agree that it sits fairly comfortably alongside their best work. Could definitely do without the Satan rework though.
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
xp no way is Green on the same tier as those other two
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
IDK I think all three of those albums have some killer tracks but aren't all that good from start to finish. What hurts Green the most in my eyes is that it's just so long.
I probably like The Altogether more than most, even if only because I've made a playlist that boots the worst stuff out and replaces it with the B-sides on the second disc, it's a solid listen
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
I think the highlights of the debut are leagues ahead of the highlights of the other two, but it feels more like a compilation to me in comparison to the suite-like approach their albums would later have.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link
Green album is great wtf
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
their god-tier knack for melody is there, but I dunno, a lot of the tracks on there just don't evolve at all & combined with the dated sound palette & the needless overextension of most tracks it makes it kind of dull as a whole. half the individual tracks are gold of course
that said my ranking it w/ Altogether and Blue is more a function of how much I dig those two albums more than the typical Orbital fan. I don't care what anyone says I love "Illuminate" in all its mealy-mouthed glory
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
New France and Stringy Acid both get the endorphins going.
― chap, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 12:50 (six years ago) link
Green Album UK or Green Album US ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_(1991_album)#Track_listing
― StanM, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
The UK version, natch.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
I've only got the US version, maybe that's my problem. One thing that's always bugged me about it is how odd the sequencing is. "Belfast" is the best track but it's so weird as an album opener. Meanwhile "Chime" is stuck somewhere in the middle.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that US tracklisting looks like someone just chucked the CD on random.
UK version is great as it has the Chime/Midnight/Belfast triptych at the end
― groovypanda, Thursday, 14 December 2017 10:19 (six years ago) link
The Gun is Good is a tier 1 single imho. I freakin' can't get enough of that one.
― octobeard, Friday, 15 December 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link
they just released two lowkey live albums on Live Here Now. they look pretty much identical - I got the Hammersmith one and it's freakin' incredible. like, it gives me flashbacks to the first time I heard Everything, Everything. loved all 3 new tracks, all of them sound like classic Orbital, though "Tiny Foldable Cities" sounds a bit like Plaid as well. new album better come soon!!
― frogbs, Sunday, 24 December 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link
Is it worth buying both live shows?
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link
The digital download for both is $20; I assume I should go ahead and pony up?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 05:42 (six years ago) link
the set lists are basically identical - only difference is Hammersmith has "Doctor". I don't see why you'd need both.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link
New music forthcoming?
🔘 OUR NEW ORBITAL 12" GIVES YOU THE SIZE OF A REGULAR VINYL AND THE MUSIC OF A 7" 🔘 pic.twitter.com/zBc56gTwuU— Orbital (@orbitalband) February 21, 2018
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
yea I definitely think they're releasing an album this year
― frogbs, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
"a regular vinyl" 8(
― koogs, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
I enjoyed (and still enjoy) Wonky a lot, but outside of 'P.H.U.K.', I don't enjoy the new album at all - sonically, it doesn't particularly sound great and a lot of it sounds phoned in.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link