i think people misinterpreted my "sweet" description of bourboni am only talking about tastebuds and physical reactions to certain tastes (taste being a neutral/scientific word here)how one reacts to a certain taste sensation is to a certain extent up to genetics(although cultural influences cannot be dismissed i guess)
i certainly don't think people who like bourbon are into sickly sweet stuff, rather their tastebuds respond to a different end of the taste(bud) spectrum. and yes, single malt scotches are well beyond my income comfort-zone for the most part which is why i like irish whiskies as they seem to hit a nice "sweet spot" between bourbon and scotch and are affordable.
― buzza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 08:32 (twelve years ago) link
also i am in no way averse to sweet-tasting alcoholic drinks but i prefer to control the ingredients that go into the drink as opposed to starting out with a base-level sweetness with the main ingredient.
― buzza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 08:39 (twelve years ago) link
scotch tastes kind of 'thin' compared to bourbon, for me at least
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the bottling proof of most scotch is one thing that is to blame here
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
Scotch is best neat or with only a tiny splash of water in most cases, though. If I'm going to drink bourbon straight, I usually throw an ice cube in.
― mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i never put ice in bourbon pretty much (unless it's an old fashioned obv) so i get used to the higher abv
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
i like both scotch and bourbon but prefer bourbon. And i dont think it has to do with any relative sweetness, because i dont have a sweet tooth at all.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
or doesn't have any teeth at all...
― Mark G, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
Operative word being "relative" sweetness. With bourbon you get hints of caramel. WIth scotch you get hints of, dunno, dirt, I guess. More vegetal vs. spice.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link
i mean this all comes down to personal palates but i've had sherried scotches (balvenie doublewood, glenfarclas 12) that seem so sweet to me!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
I have a bottle of rum barrel-aged scotch stashed at a friend's place that is pretty good but not all that sweet, comparatively
― mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
buzza otm, thats why i don't really enjoy drinking something like makers mark str8 up, its got that cloying aftertaste
― am0n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
makers is kind of...not great though
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
makers is the attempted platonic ideal of "bourbon." no one is going to say it's the best, no one will say it's the worst, no real complaints from serving it, and it meets all definitions of a reasonable product
― mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
also available most places and not embarrassing to shout for across a noisy bar
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
it's also in the $ sweet spot, too. it's not swilly, but it's not something you're gonna get docked for financially. kind of the '90s RHCPs of bar drinks
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
bottled by anthony kiedis
― am0n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
sealed with a waxy flea kiss
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
served in a sock.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
Triple sock filtered.
― nickn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
tried the bulleit rye 95 - pretty sweet tbh
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
sweet sweet?
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
sweet sweet
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
i often find cognacs a bit sweet
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
scotch prices in america are alas far more reasonable than those of fancy non-EU liquors here, else i would try more
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone else been following the ongoing Buffalo Trace insanity, not just the Van Winkle stuff but the so-called "Antique Collection" as well? Prices have gone utterly bonkers.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, I think it'll sort itself out in the same way Lagavulin did - it gets talked up in a lot of circles, novices seek it out as collection worthy or a name thing, price makes the former core audience move to other comparable products, prices level back out.
Unfortunate that a product with a 4 to 23 year production cycle is so fundamentally ill equipped to ride out supply/demand cycles.
― I DIED, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
to be fair to them, whiskey production has ramped up in the last few years since the trend was anticipated, but demand for bourbon in 2012 is still outstripping the supply
― mh, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
I hear that Knob Creek are launching a rye. Has anyone encountered it yet?
― brain (krakow), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:38 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh definitely. spring van winkle allocation was pretty rough, i think at least one store owner straight up lied to me about their allocation. btac thankfully is nowhere near as bad, and the only van winkle worth coveting at this point is the 20 year and the rye.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 April 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
I want to say it was less than a year ago that I was still able to find the 15 for $50. Now it goes for, what, $200+ dollars?
Do any of you have any good recommendation for any of the single barrel small batch whiskeys being churned out, like the Knob Creek single barrel? Has anyone tried the Woodford Reserve Double Oak?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah idk last time i saw van winkle sitting on the shelves around here was winter 2009. it's been a dogfight since then.
knob creek sb is cool if you like knob creek....at 120 proof i thought it was kind of a fatiguing whiskey. i don't like the creek that much.
not tried the woodford yet. at this point i'm skeptical. best sb's imo are still coming from four roses--i haven't checked recently but am guessing binny's carries all the recipes.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
I find all the various Four Roses combos kind of exhausting. Too expensive to experiment. I guess the generic sb is around $40, and the small batch $30. But everything else tops $50.
Had Angel's Envy?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
4 letters for you: OESQ
no angel's envy that i've seen in these parts, unfortunately.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 April 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
I cant find Van Winkle anywhere. Havent had it in years.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
I can only find Winkle 23, which is priced on a good day what the other bottles go on the secondary market.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
i picked up a bottle of bruichladdich 10-year and glenmorangie artein yesterday... the artein (a blend of 15 & 21 year finished in wine casks) is really good, and way richer-tasting than the original. not sure about the bruichladdich - may need to try it with water. every review i read RAVES about it, but it tasted kind of waxy and flat to me. it's not bad at all, just not that exciting.
― how did we get here how? (ytth), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
I remembered that there was a shortage of rittenhouse 100 so when I saw a bottle today I grabbed it
― dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
Just opened a bottle of Ardbeg 10, hoping that it will considerably improve my quality of life.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
well, has it?
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
I'll tell you in the morning...
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Rittenhouse abounds here. Amazing how much distro differs from place to place.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
ardbeg 10 is a beast
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
Ardbeg is my favorite scotch. All the bottlings are great but the Uigeadail's my current preference.
― I DIED, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I've been wanting to pick up the Uigeadail for a long time, but I've held off until I fly and can get it relatively reasonably at the excellent whisky shop in Glasgow airport; sadly, lack of holidays for several years has made it quite some wait already...
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's helping. At the very least I'm not wanting to go to bed and instead am wishing the night were longer, to give more time for enjoying such fine whisky! Maybe that's not a good thing though.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
i have no whisky tonight and i would suggest your quality of life is better than mine upon discovering that even the shitawful supermarket brandy is all gone too
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
next whisky im gonna get is cask strength tho, probably an islay
got a bottle of some family produced stuff from a castle in clare, its good, v irish but soft with it.
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
buffalo trace is a fantastic bargain for the money imo
― Steve Youngblood (dan m), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
finished off my ardbeg airigh nam beist two nights ago. it was cool but i only felt like drinking it once every six months.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link