Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

Further, Lesko states, with a straight face, that this bill is necessary because "we live in America; we don't live in the Soviet Union."

Ah, yes, the Soviet Union. The sort of place where a woman might think about getting birth control through an insurance plan to which she contributes premiums without having to show her boss her prescription in order to prove that she wasn't using it to not get pregnant. The Soviet Union. A hellscape where women don't run the risk of losing their jobs over their sexual practices. What a horrible, awful place where herds of sluts run wild like feral ponies, humping everything in sight. The nightmare of unwilling motherhood evaded is a constant spectre in The Motherland.

I don't know if this is the best thread to post this in, or if it has already been discussed elsewhere:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/13/woman-retracted-rape-claim-husband

I am at a loss to understand what anyone involved in the prosecution thought would be gained from this case, and how the judges have managed to uphold the conviction.

That's horrifying. I've never heard anything like it.

yikes

china state-run media missing the point oh so grandly: http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90785/7752064.html

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90782/90875/6789393.html

Wisconsin is the new Arizona!

By now, most people have heard of the Wisconsin GOP’s efforts to label single parenthood as a form of child abuse. There’s no basis in the claim, of course, and is simply another way to shame women (who comprise the majority of single parents) for not existing within a narrow and rigid social structure. A new wrinkle has surfaced as the bills’ co-sponsor, Representative Don Pridemore (R-Heartless Scumbag) has gone on the record as opposing divorce even in the event of a abusive spouse.

So if you are a woman regularly being beaten by your husband, you are a bad mother if you seek a divorce.

“If they can refind those reasons and get back to why they got married in the first place it might help,” said Representative Don Pridemore.

Also, Republicans get pissy about renewing Violence Against Women Act why because it would now cover same-sex couples and illegal immigrants.

shit is getting weird

very weird. strange time to be an american. the stuff that's come out of the woodwork over the course of the last four years, from wisconsin's war on collective bargaining to arizona and the south's war on immigrants and women, has been really shocking to me. perhaps that's testament to nothing but my own naivete.

repubs probably found out that the Violence Against Women Act did not actually promote violence against women, xpost

Texas is The New Wisconsin?

Perry wrote a letter to President Obama earlier this month accusing his administration of "mandating which health providers the state of Texas must use" in order to "continue to support abortion providers like Planned Parenthood." He vowed to continue the Women's Health Program in Texas without Planned Parenthood and without federal money, although he has yet to outline how his state will come up with money.

A. Toll Roads. Lots and lots of toll roads.
B. Perry can write?

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2012/03/music_women_we_love_2012.php

this is much lower on the sexism totem pole but still

^^That. Katy Perry came to town last summer, so they did a top ten of the best boobs in rock.

hahaha wait really? omfg facepalm for days

did each woman account for two or did they specify?

http://gazingmales.tumblr.com/ should be notified forthwith

[x-post] Yes, they counted for two. (Link nsfw, and also more tongue-in-cheek than I remember. Looks like it was written by a woman too.)

"And somehow we get the feeling that Katy Perry and her 32DD partners in crime are only getting started, and the worst - or best, depending on your perspective - is yet to come."

intention aside, this is shitty writing.

Shitty research too-K.Perry is a c-cup.

eh, it's crappy in a perfectly ordinary and unremarkable way. see worse all the time.

"this is much lower on the sexism totem pole but still"

i'm not sure why that's sexist? women are marginalized in music enough that any attempt to spotlight female artists should be lauded, no? like, i get the concern over treating them like some kind of special species of musician ('ladies' as some distinct category from 'general musician'), but i doubt that's the intention here?

it's more the way it's being said than what

"It only stands to reason that some of them are doing it in heels" ffs

There's the super condescending opening, ending with "As a favor to Women's History Month researchers of the future, Rocks Off has compiled the following list of 10 ladies whose music we're way, way into at the moment. Savor that spotlight, girls, and remember -- you might be making history."

I mean... a "favor"? "Savor that spotlight, girls"?

Then, out of the ten profiles, the Sleigh Bells blurb spends just as much time talking about how hot Alexis Krauss is and several of the other profiles have side allusions to the singer's physical attractiveness in them (Crystal Castles: "potent blend of disturbing and alluring"; The Tontons: "you can always count on Asli to put the city's freshest musical face forward"; Lacuna Coil: "The Lacuna Coil singer brings a singular, feminine grace to a rock genre that sorely lacks it").

Then you have the inclusion of Feist, which baldly states "we actually hate her but she has an album coming out that we have to hype".

The only inclusions that seem to be purely about women as musicians are Adele, Janelle Monae, Madonna and Florence and the Machine.

Like I said, it's much further down the totem pole when compared to things like the legislative hate crimes happening against women in this country, but that doesn't mean it isn't sexist.

tbf if there's one thing that goth metal is sorely lacking it's female singers so kudos to this guy for highlighting that

Yeah I didn't actually bother reading the article so you've def answered my question... xp

"There are a couple of reasons why we're so into Janelle Monae. The first reason is that she pretty much exclusively releases concept records about robot women. That's good enough that we don't really need a second reason, but we also happen to be very impressed that she can tie a bowtie."

sold

yeah that was dumb too but I figured I was already complaining way too much about this list

that monae thing really annoyed me

https://storify.com/charlesarthur/oh-hai-sexism

female programmer tweets at a company's founders saying that a video promoting their brand is sexist, they spend their time dissecting her use of words and making thinly-veiled threats about knowing her employer

She has a point - I saw this earlier, though, and really did feel her approach (the "fucking gross") was a shitty* one. Is she a teenager? She should know better! Wish we could do a controlled study where she instead said "I find this offensive" or something with more respectable language. /Grandma

*Hah - I'm just as bad. But I don't tweet complaints to companies, generally. I just don't buy things that anger me.

protip: don't read the comments on that storify link

eh, i think it's completely reasonable to think that women should be able to get angry & confrontational & use profanity without them being derided as unprofessional, irrational, or attention-seeking

No kidding.

To me, the issue isn't even about the video, it's about their completely idiotic response to her complaint. Yes, she probably should have phrased things differently or taken a different approach, but their reaction was completely bullshit. The response to "I think this is sexist" isn't "You are a big meany and I know your boss"

Their apology pretty much blows, too. The video was made by a woman! We have women in our office! I own another business that employs many women! None of those is "We responded inappropriately to someone on twitter"

is there a place to watch the video? it's apparently private now?

FFM do you seriously think if she had said, "I find it offensive" she would have gotten a positive response?

Responding to a criticism by criticizing the delivery of the comment is a classic way to derail a potentially legit discussion - http://derailingfordummies.com/#hostile - and it happens all the time.

elmo, mh OTM

some of my best friends are women

I am definitely a "you get more bees with honey" kind of woman, yes. I am smart enough to be aware that people will let my delivery get in the way of my message and try to conduct myself accordingly, when it's important to me.

I mean, the whole "she shouldn't use such objectionable language" is the EXACT response she got:

@shanley @rekatz I'm not cool with the angry tone regardless of the context or situation, far more professional ways to handle.
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@shanley @rekatz you could have adressed this in a far more professional way, like "hey guys, I sent you an email", yelling+cursing not cool
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Translation: stop being so uppity, woman.

the gist is, "sorry if our objectification of women offended you, but we'd be more responsive to your complaint if it were delivered in a more ladylike tone."

or, "pipe down so we can disregard you, woman."

Yup.

(N.B. I would be saying the exact same thing if a man was the typist.)

the one thing I've learned is that "I have a family" is apparently a response to anything

"Don't swear at me, I have a family"

they do come across a little like "but you know us! you know we aren't sexist! *pout*" in the midst of their rampant sexism

FFM, let's assume she was an overly hostile person and was in the wrong. Does that make their response any more right?

I also like how she didn't really call them sexist, just was asking about this video she had an objection to, and then they started doing everything they could to turn it into a debate about her character

I HAVE A FAMILY.

(N.B. I would be saying the exact same thing if a man was the typist.)

But it wasn't. It was a woman expressing a strong opinion about something she found sexist and the response was "watch your mouth, lady!" which is as much the sexist part as the video itself. Focusing on her unladylike language instead of the complaint is the problem.