Yes. Clearly.
― frankE (frankE), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link
fox sports is the blender of sports journalism
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
hey! you dropped your spoon!
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
"...the mighty riff machine YES went into overdrive with riffs like “Owner of a Lonely Heart,” where Trevor Rabin took a flare gun and burned the corrupt apartheid state to the ground!"
The thing is, I had never really noticed that "Smoke on the Water" and "Owner of a Lonely Heart" have essentially the same riff! So the piece taught me something, as well as making me chuckle.
― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
actually, i think it was you guys (Chuck, Blount, et al.) who made the shift from reader to "casual reader." it does make your points easier to defend. also, if i remember correctly, the guy who started the thread stated he was a regular reader of Xgau's.
― BanjoMania (Brilhante), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link
well, it's amazing how dunderheaded some people can be. (look it up)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago) link
― BanjoMania (Brilhante), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago) link
So let's keep those snappy putdowns coming! After all, that's the apex of music criticism for most writers.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
That's me. And I am! I actually like the guy's writing! Chuck's though...peeee-ewe!
― frankE (frankE), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
xgau often has nice little bits of critical observation in his reviews; but on other occasions it seems like once you've figured out the pun (and there are sometimes impediments to even doing that; a grammatical error here, a lack of context there), there's no further insight to be gleaned. that's no mortal sin; people are obviously enjoying his writing just the same. but it's not what i look for in a critic.
to cite an example of a critic whose writing can be impossibly dense, even obscure on occasion, and yet full of revelations and pointed observations, see manny farber.
i think my criticisms of xgau have been pretty mild, so i'm a bit bewildered by the vehemence of some responses here. i don't know what engenders this wolf pack defensiveness re rock criticism that i sometimes perceive.
― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago) link
could have something to do with all the rock critics lying around.
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:24 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link
Actually, I think I've been fairly UN-vehement today, at least compared to yesterday, at least until my most recent post. Oh well!
― chuck, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
You don't say?? Coulda fooled me, Shakey -- every piece in the Voice music section I edit reads EXACTLY like that Queen piece (which I, uh, comprehended and loved, though I did not myself edit or run it)! That's my rule: If you don't write like Dave Queen, don't even think of pitching me ideas! (And that goes double for all you jazz critics!)
― chuck, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
(I assume Chuck's being sarcastic, since I don't read the Voice - I live in SF why would I bother...)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link
x-post
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link
Well, you were the one to bring it up so I was curious.
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 23 April 2004 19:02 (twenty years ago) link
Well, that explains a lot, Shakey -- if I didn't read the Voice music section, I'd under-rate the current state of rock criticism, too!
― chuck, Friday, 23 April 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link
― frankE (frankE), Friday, 23 April 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link