'John Carter,' aka the Edgar Rice Burroughs 'A Princess of Mars' adaptation

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the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

iPhone auto correcting "its" as a rule is a sign of a civilization in decay, i think

the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

That thread already exists: They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I loved "Tin Tin" as well except for the interminable, unnecessary and totally un-Herge'ish battle on the docks.

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

The battle was out of place; pretty much everything else was a treat. Fun score from John Williams too.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

Why was John Carter retrofitted? It seems like they would have shot that one in 3-D from the get-go.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

well up above it said that the director didn't want to do 3D so i guess he didn't film it in 3D.

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Fun score from John Williams too.

It was neat, though heavily reminiscent of his even better music for Catch Me If You Can.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

(which movie I've never seen; I probz only see maybe 10% of the films whose scores I listen to)

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

that's true. it was in production for a very long time, though.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

xpost

wow jon williams has really upped the ante since he left ILX

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

'left'

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

I understand VegemiteGrrl has now seen and believed.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

I have waited about 30 years for this and it delivered everything I wanted it to. It seemed like kind of a pointless merging of books to bring the Therns into this one and I didn't get where they were going with the White Apes at all (my belief was always that ERB was trying to write the same idea as the gorilla in Murders In The Rue Morgue) but that's nitpicking. Great stuff.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

YOU GUYS!!!

THIS WAS SO GREAT!

so fun, had a very old-timey feel, even with the cgi. I haven't read the book but it seemed like it was faithful, just from the look & tone.

And holy shirtless Tim Riggins batman. horseshoe, no joke: you NEED to see this.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

yay aldo liked it too! that's a damn good sign imo

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

You're too kind.

My 14yo didn't think it was so hot - he thought the John/Deja romance was hackneyed and he'd seen too much of the rest of it before (like the single flight scenes below Zodanga being reminiscent of RotJ) but then I pointed out to him the book was published 95 years ago and he was just baffled.

I think my favourite bit, although not authentic, was when John returned to the cave and was crusted solid. The funniest sequence was probably John learning about Martian gravity, which is more or less how it happens in the bbook.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

I liked the Cranston scenes too

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

Def want to read the books now

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

loved this

adam, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

Wanted to see this today, but there was only one time, a 4pm show, to see it in 2-D.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

see it in 2D

3D is not necessary

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

unless they've 3D'd Tim Riggins' chest and the Princess's boobs in which case, go for it.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

Gonna try to go tomorrow after work. Hopefully it's still at the theater on 23rd in Chelsea.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

Hated this. Worst film I've seen so far this year.

Wooden acting, boring plot.

Bob Six, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

SEIZE HIM

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link

Just got back, I had a good time. 2D looked great to me.

Bonus points for evil Martian McNulty and Caesar and Marc Antony from Rome as Martian good guys.

Brad C., Monday, 19 March 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

And Walter White! :D

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

xpost What I meant was that of the five or so screenings at the local theater per day, only one - the 4pm - is in 2D, not 3D. I don't want to see or pay for this in 3D, but damn if 4pm is not the all around worst, least convenient time to see a movie.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 March 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, well I agree with that

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

Tell your boss you have uncontrollable diarrhea at 3:30 imo

mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

Enjoyed 2D Tim Riggins vs McNulty in space. Ladyfriend & I kept laughing at unintentionally funny moments, including seriousface deep eyegazing "sweeeeze" lines. Totally decent ride. Lovely anti-gravity movie.

Reviews calling it incomprehensible were overblown. "Curious sort of blur" seems about right, though. Liked it, but already forgetting it.

(he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 19 March 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

I smirked uncontrollably whenever the good guys’ city was mentioned- “we must save Helium!”, “now I must return to the city of my fathers, noble Helium” etc. etc. All they did, they did for Helium. The CGI and 3D was well realised, though, and it was pretty good fun.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Monday, 19 March 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

encouraged by ILX love, i went to see this (in breathtaking 2D) this afternoon. i can't say it's great, exactly, but i had a hell of a good time with it. solid performances, appealing actors, GREAT MONSTERS, wonderful martian ruins and spooky magic/tech stuff. plus a nicely expansive, resolutely old-fashioned epic science-fantasy adventure story. lots of unexpected twists, revelations and changes of fortune. felt like prime late 70s/early 80s spielberg and lucas all mixed together, much more satisfyingly so than super 8 or the recent star wars and indiana jones outings.

a few drawbacks though. took a little while to get its footing. the opening with sab than getting the magic bracelet was necessary, i suppose, but fairly dull. the floating warships, voodoo tech and martian scenery rarely looked substantial, which made the intro feel a bit cheesy. the following scenes back on earth with JC, however, were fantastic, some of my favorite moments in the film. great ramp-up to his eventual leap across the solar system. once on mars, the "learning to bounce" sequence was more foolish than enjoyably silly, but after that, i was fully on board. still, certain moments and story threads felt underdeveloped. the romance angle was perfunctory, and JC's sudden rise to king of the tharks was worse, completely undeserved. i mean, i'm glad that the film took its time warming up, and that it was so willing to pause for scenery, but it began to feel very rushed towards the end.

nevertheless, i loved it to death and feel crushed by its failure at the box office. it needs a sequel! i need a sequel!

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Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

There are a dozen books for you to enjoy.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

bursting out of monster covered in goo = win

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:31 (twelve years ago) link

There are a dozen books for you to enjoy.

yeah, read the first few as a kid. may revisit, may not. tbh, i think i preferred this. i don't remember ERB's john carter being a particularly sympathetic or interesting hero, but i do remember the race-as-destiny stuff being laid on a little thick. then again, it's been ages, and my tastes have changed a lot.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

plus love woola! so zippy that one! and slobbery.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link

i want a woola

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah - I as well am bummed a sequel will prob. never happen. Meanwhile, "21 Jump Street 2" is a-comin'.

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link

"Walt Disney has said it expects to lose $200m (£126m) on its movie John Carter, making it one of the biggest flops in cinema history."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17442200

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

21 Jump Street 2: 42 Jump Street

xp

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Walt Disney has said it expects to lose $200m (£126m) on its movie John Carter, making it one of the biggest flops in cinema history."

gah, this is so wrong and so colossally stupid. i can see why the film might have underperformed no matter what, as it's a bit silly and old-fashioned overall, but the promotion was criminally bad. first of all, it should have been called JOHN CARTER OF MARS. just plain old "john carter" is meaningless. it doesn't even suggest anything interesting. and the television ad campaign was horrible. i tried to get my gf's dad, who's usually up for anything in the line of old school high adventure, to go. he refused, saying it looked "like that 300 movie". and he was right, sort of. all you got from the ads was jumping and fighting in a desert, with some monsters and flying machines thrown in for color. no hint of story, character or setting. maybe the dumbest, most self-destructive ad campaign i've ever seen for a film of this type. it should have been promoted as a successor to avatar, ffs! swashbuckling hero, period setting, epic scope, interplanetary adventure & romance! would at least have sold a few more tickets than who-the-fuck-is "john carter" jumping around in a desert somewhere, chopping up the hordes.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

I think 3D puts people off too, which is totally understandable- having to wear some stupid glasses for some pretty redundant 3D effects, and pay more for the privilege, is really annoying.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

what's so wrong is it cost $250 M before promotion.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

none of that money was spent on acting lessons either.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

Taylor Kitsch already knows how to take his shirt off and make puppy faces, so acting lessons are redundant. All Dominic West needed was a jug with xxx on it. Lynn Colins is apparently a shakesperian actor & Juliard grad?

(he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

they should have just called it WARLORD OF MARS

and the poster should have just had frazetta riggins stance where he's coming down on the horde screaming and the tag-line - STAY FLY...

and they should have had a cool rap theme song for the commercial.

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

it ain't brain surgery.

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

WARLORD OF MARS: 2 HIGH 2 DIE

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link


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