Marilyn Haggerty's amazing Olive Garden review and the subsequent viral shitstorm

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lex did you let the egg cool first, run it under cold water, etc?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

It's some kind of communist connection to the fruits of your labour, I suspect, lex. Seriously, if you're ever near Exeter, let me know, come round, I'll cook.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:59 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I do wonder about this. The first part, not SM hitting on Lex.

↖MODERNIST↗ hangups (thomp), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Eric, is that a pro canned cheese or an anti canned cheese stance?

aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

i'm glad i learned the basics of cooking at Big Bob's Our Place, Double Play Sports Bar & Grill, and Stub and Herb's working part time in high school and college

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

will someone please let the lex off of the hook and tell him everything's okay. i can't take another botched meal anecdote.

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

nb, do not stand on canned cheese because you might slip, hilariously

aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that objectively my not-great tofu and whatever meals aren't any better than going to the mediocre Chinese place two minutes away. But I feel a lot better about them. Communism.

Covent Garden soups I always end up eating at work a whole lot and are kind of the epitome of 'I wish I had something better to eat but I'm not, I'm eating this'

↖MODERNIST↗ hangups (thomp), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

It's a pragmatic canned cheese stance.

Eric H., Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

lex did you let the egg cool first, run it under cold water, etc?

siiiigh no. lots of people have since told me this is what i should have done. i don't know where they learned it from. nonetheless i have not recovered my confidence re: eggs sufficiently to attempt them again

lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

It sounds like Lex really doesn't want to start cooking-maybe he could, if he really wanted to, but he doesn't, so why be so pushy about it? Also it's not like he goes to McDonald's for every meal, or eats nothing but Pop Tarts, it sounds like he has a reasonable diet, not worse than that of many who do cook.

As far as OG etc, I agree they are not really innocuous due to food production methods, their effect on local culture etc, but IME, people who make a display of how much they hate OG rarely make it about that. They don't even mention factory farms, regional culture, local economy etc-it usually seems more an opportunity to display their superior taste, and experience and knowledge of "authentic" food.

MrDasher, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

Meh, it's OK to hate things that taste bad, are overpriced and horrifically unhealthy.

Eric H., Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

It sounds like Lex really doesn't want to start cooking-maybe he could, if he really wanted to, but he doesn't, so why be so pushy about it?

we have an interest in making this thread very long

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

i only just read this. it's funny/sweet because she so politely avoids going into detail about the food and quietly minimizes the damage: "Instead of the raspberry lemonade she suggested, I drank water."

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

will someone please let the lex off of the hook and tell him everything's okay. i can't take another botched meal anecdote.

i posted this last night in the gay thread:

i tried to steam some broccoli the other week and it just...i have no idea why it didn't work. i thought i knew how to do it. i've done it before. but nothing happened. i ended up having to gnaw sadly on semi-raw florets.

― lex pretend, Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

along with the last time i tried to join in on pancake day and toss pancakes, which ended in disaster when i somehow managed to toss the entire frying pan :(

lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

if you're buying 12-15 things to make a stir-fry it's not exactly easy to plan out how you're going to use everything else, try as we might
― frogbs, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:10 AM (20 minutes ago)

Yes, it is. You're not trying hard enough.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

beginning to think your problem might not be cooking

iatee, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

buy less things to make a stir-fry imo

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

i think i understand now lex - you've learned your kitchen techniques from saturday morning cartoons

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

stop cooking on ketamine!

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

i heard an interview with her son on local npr. he writes for the wsj! nothing too revelatory but he did have to explain to his mom what 'going viral' meant.

― goole, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:36 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh ha i just remembered something pretty funny: the host asked the guy how, since she is very non-negative about anything, you could tell if she was giving a place a bad review? and his answer was if she writes more about the decor, the food probably isn't too hot.

didn't marilyn spend like five paragraphs on the seating?

goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

the famed olive garden review might have been a vicious pan all along

goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Lex's cookophobia is fun!

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

goole this has been mentioned

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

along with the last time i tried to join in on pancake day and toss pancakes, which ended in disaster when i somehow managed to toss the entire frying pan :(

― lex pretend, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:40 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i hope this was accompanied by one of those "falling on banana peel" slide whistles

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

sorry, this thread is bonkers

goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'm just talking about makin fancy, good restaurant quality stuff, not your evryday meal. I don't think my grocery bills/trash piles are any higher than yours.

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'm just cracking up because I'm imagining Lex putting pancake batter into a pan, and then putting that pan in a larger pan, and then attempting to flip the smaller pan with the larger pan.

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

is that what 'pancake day' means

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

No, that's a sex act

aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

You take two intact...

aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

i am a big fan of cooking alone, which is a totally chill relaxing yet mentally stimulating activity. i do like to have someone to share the results with if i'm making anything remotely ambitious.

if i still lived alone i'd be having brown rice salmon and kale every night.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Lex should compile all the stories into some Švejk-like compendium of mishaps.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.collegecomplements.com/img/products/Norpro-Pancake-Turner.jpg

alien technology — recovered from Area 51, starting to be seen in test labs in Dubuque and East Lansing.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

Omelette probe

aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

xxpost

yeah if i'm cooking something simple but tasty i have no prob cooking/eating alone.

but if it's something fancy or ambitious i want an audience or collaborator.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

i just made ramen noodles using my electric tea kettle at work. dollar lunch.

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

the kind with the corn kernel and green pea packet. love the corn and pea packet.

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

i was gonna say, my friends in the Midwest (OK, Indiana) were telling me that they think that the entire article is really just a almost-Swiftian-oh-so-subtle pisstake on Olive Garden (since they claim inside knowledge on Midwest/Heartland humor and such). it does kind of work that way once you try to look at it that way (all the talk about the parking lot and the decor and not so much talk about the food as such).

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

if you don't have something nice to say...

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-wx11l3nr4

the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

the awl people are right about the accidental poetry (or maybe not accidental? i shouldn't sell her short...) of this:

"There is seating for those who are waiting."

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

hahahhahahahahaha Hurting OTM

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

"You can find the latest Hagerty coverage on MarilynHagerty.com. It includes links to two new Herald items now available for sale: a new e-book collection of Eatbeat articles and a new Marilyn Hagerty T-shirt."

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/232085/publisher_ID/40/

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

quick work, marilyn.

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

I thought the review was fine if the OG is the kind of place her paper's readership wants reviewed. And the outright snottiness of the original Internet reaction was unnecessary. But acting like it's an especially well-crafted piece of writing also seems kind of condescending imo.

boxall, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

the awl people are right about the accidental poetry (or maybe not accidental? i shouldn't sell her short...) of this:

"There is seating for those who are waiting."

― scott seward, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:27 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eat yer heart out, t i m @ k f c. e d u

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

her drunken noodle review is pretty similar. no real food critique:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/231996/publisher_ID/40/

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

omg, from the taco bell review:

"CS had a taco and a small drink. A creative 13-year-old, she mixed Baja Blast, Mountain Dew and Sierra Mist, something I really don't encourage. Something, I am sure, she has seen older kids do."

the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

kinda love this

Then, there are Japanese-inspired Teppanyaki platters of rib-eye steak, mixed seafood, tiger prawns and scallops. They range in price from $12 to $15, and I told myself this would be nice another time.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

"But acting like it's an especially well-crafted piece of writing also seems kind of condescending imo."

i don't think so! i think her review can be instructional. i like the simplicity of it. there is a zen-like quality to it that comes from writing like that for decades. lots of people who can write could never write something like that. there is absolutely nothing forced about it at all.

scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link


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