What does "cod reggae" have to do with fish, anyway?

Shame this blog never took off.

Old Fart!!!

i saw that youtube as i scrolled down and got excited and then realized i posted it.

Ummm... So I happened to catch (insanely popular but never-before-mentioned-on-ILM whiteboy London reggae band) the Skints at a local festival on Saturday, and I'm slightly ashamed to say they were a lot of fun. And that's it.

What was the story recently about somebody noting that codpieces were way too small in some production. Was it after Wolf Hall?
Anyway has me thinking that a cod piece was actually a misleading advertisement and the negative derivation might come from there.
Could of course go back to the source word referring to the scrotum though.

But I think cod has been used to mean ersatz for a very long time, presumably centuries.

I only ever hear it appended to the word 'reggae' for some reason though. makes me think of someone playing reggae in a tuxedo for some reason? no idea why.

The Word Detective: Cod (mock)

“Cod” meaning “phony” has been British slang since the early 20th century, and although “cod” to me immediately conjures up visions of fish and chips, the connection of this “cod” to that is open to question. “Cod,” apart from fishy uses, has actually been slang since the late 17th century, but its original sense (for our purposes here) was to mean “fellow” (especially an old man) or, a bit more pungently, “fool” (“Ye vile drunken cod,” 1878). Some authorities have proposed that this “cod” was actually short for “codger,” meaning “a stingy and/or peculiar old man.” But apparently “cod” in this sense is found in the written record earlier than “codger,” so that explanation is considered dubious (although not impossible, given the spotty nature of the written record in that period).

Another possibility, favored by the eminent etymologist Eric Partridge, is that “cod” in the “old fool” sense was short for the derogatory term “cod head,” i.e., as empty of sense as a fish’s head. This sense of mindlessness might then have evolved to mean “without substance” or “phony.” In any case, we can consider ourselves lucky to have such a nifty little modifier as “cod” to quietly signal “fake.”

Barely worth noting that the roast fish eaten in Jamaica for the better part of 300 years (with sides of collie weed and corn bread) was salted cod from the grand banks of Newfoundland.

“In Elizabethan England you will only find small codpieces. Large ones, stuffed with wool and looking like an erect male member, are out of date”
― Ian Mortimer, The Time Traveller's Guide to Elizabethan England

And from some review:

Basically, the long, loose-fitting and rather modest clothes of 1300 changed – more quickly than in any other century, apparently – into the tight, often revealing and ostentatious dress of 1400. Men’s tunics became ‘court-pieces’, short enough to reveal buttocks at the back and suggestive bulges at the front. (There is no etymological link with ‘codpieces’: I checked in the OED.)

Interestingly enough, from The Dictionary Of American Slang (c. 1960):

codd v.t. To fool or bluff a person. Some c1909 N. Eng. dial. use. Obs.

I bet the New Englanders got it from Olde England, though.

it's everyday usage in Ireland fy

I only ever hear it appended to the word 'reggae' for some reason though. makes me think of someone playing reggae in a tuxedo for some reason? no idea why.
― I ain't got no bites / Bad itches is the only thing that I like (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 13:43 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Dog Latin, also known as Cod Latin, macaronic Latin, mock Latin, or Canis Latinicus,[1] refers to the creation of a phrase or jargon in imitation of Latin..."

Just keep lining them up, dl, and we'll keep smashing them out of the ground..

codd v.t. To fool or bluff a person

surely related to 'kid' amirite?

And behind the door of one of the closets there was a drawing in red pencil of a bearded man in a Roman dress with a brick in each hand and underneath was the name of the drawing:

Balbus was building a wall.

Some fellow had drawn it there for a cod. It had a funny face but it was very like a man with a beard.

THere's cod inteligentsia or cod intellectual or something similar too.
THink I may have heard cod classical used for populist orchestral fare too.

& I think I've heard cod mystical.
Seems to be somewhat exchangeable with the word pseudo

related:

codswallop

Alternative forms:
cod's wallop

Etymology

Unknown, attested from 1959 episode of UK TV series Hancock’s Half Hour. The writers (Galton and Simpson) state that the phrase was in general use when the show was broadcast.[1][2] A national TV appeal in the UK in 2006 failed to find earlier references.[1] Originally written (1963) codswallop, spelling cod's wallop is later.

Various etymologies are proposed from some sense of cod, such as from cod (“scrotum”) (as in codpiece), from cod (“joke, imitation”)[1] + wallop (“beer (slang)”), hence cod + wallop “imitation beer” (with interconsonantal -s- to ease pronunciation of -dw-), or from cod (“fish”) (some part of the fish, as from fishing industry).

Walloper

- Bob Marlin

Reggae all about the Bass

Lee Catch Perry

Or Fish Catch Perchy or something

p sure it derives from codicil

http://www.rodstewart.com/tag/another-country/

It also gave me the freedom to experiment with different sounds like reggae

Cod Stewart

I'm years late but here's an article on "cod reggae".

http://thequietus.com/articles/17129-the-joy-of-cod-reggae

i'm surprised i'd never come across this before.

I'm surprised that playlist is so bad.

... bad at illustrating cod reggae, that is, not bad musically.

After posting the Quietus article to FB, a friend replied with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVseBq-MSA

it's everyday usage in Ireland fy

Not only that but the word 'cod' is the memorable centrepiece of this monologue that proves forever that Irish football punditry is better than the backslapping former pro world of the BBC, even if it's arguably wrong in hindsight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsuovF1pzJ0

... bad at illustrating cod reggae, that is, not bad musically.

Just hearing "Seaside Woman, by Linda McCartney, for the first time. Seems to be made for this thread.

It's undeniably terrible.

Good B-side though!

Was not prepared for this Guess Who Cod Reggae cringefest I just heard on SiriusXM:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va0o6dU6rlI

i regret to inform you that that's calypso

faux-lypso i should say

"Cod-lypso" was right there.

yes, not really reggae ;-) it's got a sort of Donovan vibe hasn't it?

but corny dudes trying to go reggae is a guilty pleasure of mine, I have to admit. Especially when it's Laid Back doing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNowU63PF5E

O wombe! O bely! O stinking cod, Fulfild of donge and of corrupcioun! At either ende of thee foul is the soun.