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probably couldn't do it in the US tho, the thought of which is kind of making me rethink

goole, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

Yes.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

is it just coincidence that our best-loved and most dignified african american celebrity, the star of glory and driving miss daisy, is named freeman DO YOU SEE

the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

More of a personal affront to MF than a racial one, imo.

Aimless, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

Read something to the effect that he gave his permission but isn't exactly a fan

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

struggling to see how it's in any way racist, assuming the guy in the ads is also the voice actor?

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

this all Compare the Meerkat's fault basically (were those racist?)

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

i think they might be, yeah

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

Accent. Verbal blackface.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

okay, really?

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

Well, *I* find it creepy and tasteless, and that's what I come up with.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

morgan freeman's voice is neither an "accent" nor "verbal blackface"

Sexess - Sexual Success Or; Successful Sex (crüt), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

he has a very slight twang because he's from Memphis

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

That is not Morgan Freeman's voice, and the attempt to sound like him is based primarily on accent and very little on the other aspects. And that is not simply regional.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

his voice is much more distinctive than his accent, which imo is quite soft?

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

...and it's the other way around for the voice-over guy, which is my point, and I hope someone not on a gotcha quest knows what I'm talking about.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

gotcha

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

I wouldn't say the accent is particularly over-the-top or more pronounced than the "I am imitating Morgan Freeman" part of the voice

where are you from, TWU?

Sexess - Sexual Success Or; Successful Sex (crüt), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

We don't agree. I'm from the Baltimore/Washington area.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

So anyone doing an impression of Darth Vader is guilty of verbal blackface?

pplains, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

No.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

I just don't get then why doing an impression of Morgan Freeman is considered such.

pplains, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

because morgan freemans face is black and under the mask vader is white

the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

I thought the white guy in the ad and the guy doing the voice impression were different guys and that More Than could have had anyone playing Morethan Freeman but chose to have that guy who bears no resemblance to the guy we normally associate with that voice.

I don't necessarily think that's racist (that's why I'm here, it's what this thread is occasionally for) but if he isn't the voice guy I would be interested in More Than's reasons for casting him.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link

hmm, i'm only assuming it's the same guy because, well yeah, why else.

If we were to find out that the actual voice actor was asian, can we lock the thread?

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

nah it's this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbIqL-lN1B4

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i've just been searching. as you were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Robert_Thompson

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

I don't really think it's racist tbh but this thing of turning a terrible pun on a company name into a crap ad character has to stop

Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

it makes u remember, it will never stop

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

it's nice to get the occasional "no" in an "is this racist?" thread

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

tbf it's often a 'lady, if you have to ask....' issue

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

Lots of ladies in the current discussion.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:00 (twelve years ago) link

i thought everyone itt was a lady and that is literally why i said that, my bad

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 08:17 (twelve years ago) link

the voice over sounds like someone doing a very bad imitation of morgan freeman, cannot BELIEVE someone landed that job with that voice, smdh

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

guy at bbq restaurant wearing shirt:
"My Indian Name Is Runs With Beer"

mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

Accent. Verbal blackface.

I think this is one of those situations where claiming something is racist is more offensive than the thing itself

frogbs, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

frogbs noooooooooooooo

mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

down the brer rabbit hole

Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

frogdude, you have made me laugh hard twice today and i want you to succeed at ilx so i wish you would reconsider participating in this thread

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

cmon guys, we're all friends here :sunglasses:

frogbs, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

considering that frogbs plainly stated something I implied, I get the sense that people are freaking out solely because of subject matter and not because of what was actually said

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

considering that frogbs plainly stated something I implied

yeah it crossed my mind that it could be read that way - i was hoping it was clear i wasn't saying the guy was doing a "black voice" but was doing the voice of a notable and famous black man.

A BIG JOE JORDAN TYPE OF POSTER (onimo), Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

So anyone doing an impression of Darth Vader is guilty of verbal blackface?

― pplains

No.

― Three Word Username

But, but, that's the voice of James Earl Jones!

Aimless, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

vader was white btw

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Are the people in the Star Wars movies humans?

pplains, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it crossed my mind that it could be read that way - i was hoping it was clear i wasn't saying the guy was doing a "black voice" but was doing the voice of a notable and famous black man.

TWU baldly stated that he thought dude was doing a "black voice", though; that was the post that caused my reaction and, while I can't speak for frogbs, I thought he was just piggybacking off of the existing conversation.

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

I'm kind of dying here because I ended up on some odyssey of jumping through "related videos" on youtube last night and ended up watching a segment about the guy who voiced the baby on the tv show Dinosaurs, who also voices Elmo, and is a large black man

So when I read "black voice" I am thinking Elmo atm

mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link


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