Propagandhi

best band ever in the history of ever

best band in the history of ever's new record is streaming on facebook (?) (!)

https://www.facebook.com/Propagandhi/app_178091127385

they're playing dc in a few weeks, i'm stoked

new record is very good but i find myself wanting for grounding melodic moments (see "potemkin city limits" and "human(e) meat" from the last record)

i'm listening to potemkin city limits now and its hitting me how much this is like a prog-punk precursor to some of fucked up's more recent stuff. is that a connection people a lot of other people have made?

I don't know Fucked Up but Potemkin City Limits deserved much more love than it got

yeah i hadn't paid a ton of attention to it before, but i'm really digging it right now. the layers of melody and shit. great.

Potemkin City Limits deserved much more love than it got

otm

Nothing Fucked Up's done can touch that record imo

Well I mentioned it cause listening last night I kept thinking of David Comes To Life, particularly all the really gorgeous layers done at such a high energy level.

i guess the reason i wouldn't necessarily make that connection is bc of how much later propagandhi is about straight up thrash metal, which there aren't many traces of in the proggy fucked up stuff (which is still very much about hardcore)

full confession i was p blazed and listening to 'a speculative fiction' when this comparison occurred to me, and i'd been shotgunning the early records for the last year or so til putting PCL on for the first time in years the other night, so i think the contrast was just in search of an anchor.

i think it's a neat connection to make tho! i just had never thought of that before

Starting to think Supporting Caste is every bit as good as Potemkin City Limits. So many amazing riffs and moments.

i like it sliiightly better. think it's their best record honestly even though you know less talk more rock 'til death

Nardwuar just played an 18 year old interview he did with them on his radio show. Should be up for podcast later.

Goddamn, this is some powerful stuff.

New record Victory Lap is out and sounding very promising (not to mention *very* different from Failed States).

"Single moms to the front, we came here to rock!"

Album of the Week and a nice writeup at Stereogum
https://www.stereogum.com/1963996/album-of-the-week-propagandhi-victory-lap/franchises/album-of-the-week/

new album is among their best. love that these guys are still pushing their sound forward e.g. “lower order”

yeah it would feel like a transitional album except that they're always in transition these days towards some never-complete ideal, which fits with the increasingly tortured, conflicted lyrical content

i don’t have a kid but the last song on this record makes me *weep*

it hasn't supplanted "Without Love" as most emotionally bruising Propagandhi song but it's mighty close

also "A Lower Order" is probably their best animal rights song

wild in a catalog that includes "purina hall of fame" and "nailing descartes to the wall" but i agree

After 15 years I saw them live for the first time. They were incredible and I'm gonna stop myself there. Setlist was very similar to this one:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/propagandhi/2017/london-music-hall-london-on-canada-2be3ec7e.html

except with the additions of "Adventures in Zoochosis"(!) and "The Banger's Embrace." I could have used a few more Potemkin/Caste tunes but beyond that it was a pretty inspired set.

man. that setlist is perfect

Jealous. No Chicago tour dates.

my shitty high school hardcore band covered "Fuck the Border" so that was particularly delightful, and of course "Back to the Motor League" is one of the greatest songs ever written and it was great to be reminded

aaand now I'm thinking that Victory Lap might be their best overall, pound for pound. I can't seem to tire of it.

yep

the "what one artist do you like the most that ilm doesn't seem to rate at all" thread made me look this thread up and now I'm excited to check out Victory Lap

potemkin city limits is my favorite

every Prop album is good but PCL really was a brilliant expansion /reinvention, even though I think Caste and Victory Lap best it

https://audioboom.com/posts/7805948-episode-313-todd-kowalski-propagandhi-i-spy

fun chat btwn Damian and Todd from propaganfhi/i-spy. only just started but already worth it for the fun trivia, such as his first punk show being gangrene/goo goo dolls in 1988