lol @ the pains taken to avoid his purple majesty's bare cheeks
― Et tu, Crut? (The Reverend), Friday, 9 January 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm very curious about what he does with ProTools. Could be really interesting.
― Matos W.K., Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link
not like it's the first time, he's been using it since 3121 at least
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link
earlier i had a crossword clue that was "part of TAFKAP" and even after i had filled in "ARTIST" it still didn't register for a minute
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Utterly of non-interest to anyone anywhere. Unless you are, you know, alive and breathing:
http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/watch-while-you-can-prince-rehearsal-videos-1984/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 February 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Is Matos sittin' down?
― iago g., Monday, 15 February 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Cool. Extended "When Does Cry" and "Erotic City" sound good.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/PRINCE_OFFICIAL/status/8476096110
― kshighway (ksh), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Shhhh, don't tell Prince about the Youtube videos
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Like his little routine in "17 Days."
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
His James Brown rooted and updated moves were/are always fun to watch plus the extra little hopping and running around stuff here
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Cave17 Matt C should be checking these videos out also
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Matos, what do you think?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
oh dear lord. this is fantastic.
I love how he goes through his moves, knowing they're already mastered, and keeps a more critical eye on the band. what a fun loving task master!
― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
......aaaaand they're gone
― Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link
got to see 5 of them, haha. oh well. hopefully someone capped 'em while they were up
― Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Damn, I only got to watch "When Doves Cry". I hope these can make their way onto Dailymotion or something.
― otto günne (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link
new song to debut friday on The Current radio:
http://www.startribune.com/blogs/85053272.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUss
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
.....and it's awful:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/the_current/features/2010/02/prince-cause-and-effect/index.shtml
man he has so completely and totally lost it.
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
bad wrong false prince
― Fetchboy, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
wow yeah that is bad
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link
WTF is Prince using MS Songsmith now?
― might seem normal but is actually (snoball), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i want to say "nothing can ever erase the work he did in the 80s" but i somehow wonder if this song is actually capable of erasing the master tape to "if i was your girlfriend"
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
With the amount of stuff going on in the background it sounds like he recorded over the top of something. In case anyone is wondering what the reverse bit at ~3:30 is, it's Prince saying "contracts just make you smaller".
― might seem normal but is actually (snoball), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
the problem with all of prince's stuff from the 90s on is that i think he fundamentally misunderstands what made him great at one time.
he's a great minimalist that thinks he's a maximalist.
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
eh he's done some good minimalist stuff since the 90s - Black Sweat, for ex.
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
but yeah I agree that in general he's better when he's doing less
Am I crazy or has Prince benn listening to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=CXCiS2FpmIc&feature=related
― mottdeterre, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 26, 2010 5:44 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
black sweat....and....black sweat...and..um...black sweat ; )
j.k. but yeah that's the only song i've heard in years i thought was GOOD good not just "hey this is pretty good for prince now, i guess"
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't listen to this at work but it's probably for the best.
it's funny, i just listened to mplsound again and thought it wasn't that bad (if you have no expectations except for dad-prince).
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
oh what the fuck
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
like I could put up with the verse and I could put up with the chorus, but not both together in the same song; that is exactly the wrong thing to do, dude
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i should do a poll, this song versus his vikings playoff song, which sounded like the work of a slightly deranged lutheran church choir director
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
at least the Vikings playoff song was awesome in its insanity; this is boring, mild-mannered shit that thinks it's shit-hot
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
replace lutheran w/ witness and you just about summarized prince 2010
― I'm so 3000-and-8080 (The Reverend), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
title tracks of musicology and 3121 were pretty good and stripped down imho. there was some other track on musicology that I liked but I'm blanking on it at the moment... but yeah his hit-to-miss ratio is pretty sad.
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
its weird how humorless his recorded output has become. dude was funny as hell when I saw him um... 10 years ago
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, when even the people who defended The Rainbow Children are like "yo this is hot trash" it's time to reconsider your artistic vision
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, I really like The Rainbow Children!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I do, too! This is bullshit tho
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Prince has been churning out the doo doo for a good long time now. Last thing I really liked by him was that "P=Funk" track. He's creatively bankrupt IMHO.
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
How Prince managed to lose it this badly makes a pretty great case for contracts, editorial guidance, et al.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean - he's always crammed as much as he could get away with into his songs and it usually worked. Probably because they were songs. Stuff like this new track just makes my eyes glaze over.
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
uh, this is a song, it's just not a very good one
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, February 26, 2010 6:41 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i disagree what is "crammed in" to, say "Kiss" or "When Doves Cry"?
both those songs are prince at his best....a peculiar, brittle minimal digital funk.
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
The problem with that statement is that Prince at his best is not only "Kiss", "Alphabet St", "Housequake" and "When Doves Cry"; it's also "1999", "I Wanna Be Ur Lover", "Mountains" and "Gett Off".
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i think we may have different tastes in prince....
still i don't see those songs as being particularly busy or overstuffed like recent stuff
(though full disclosure: last album i heard was the one my wife got free when she went to a concert...it seemed just "fine" in the same way i guess like a new mark knophler solo album would seem to a dire straits fan)
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, I'm 36 seconds in and it's already been like 10 different songs, WTF? So the intro stuff, and then when the big power chords and organ and I'm like, "Is he doing, like, a Boston album?" Then the other guitar groove kicks in and I'm thinking, "OK, ok, this could be like an updated version of 'Dirty Mind'-era shit," but then it started sucking. Does it get better? Do I click "Play" again?
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
answers to your last questions are "no" and "no"
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Too late.
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
"If I was Your Dead Girlfriend"
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal)
nice try, prince, but robyn hitchcock already did it better with "my wife and my dead wife"
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 4 May 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link
but I’m here to tell you -there’s something else
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 4 May 2023 03:17 (one year ago) link
Electric word, life, it means forever
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 May 2023 10:47 (one year ago) link
Newly released demo version of "7": https://open.spotify.com/track/6C0KzzELDiWNQkmlUyKY5Y?si=11de9c7a5d364bbb
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 7 July 2023 14:13 (ten months ago) link
Some track listings on PPL for a release of Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis 1/11/1992. Presumably as part of a bigger box set? The release date is 2023. Here's the track listing:
PRINCE Thunder [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300225 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:18sec PRINCE Daddy Pop [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300226 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 6:23sec PRINCE Diamonds And Pearls [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300227 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 5:31sec PRINCE Willing And Able [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300228 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 5:40sec PRINCE Jughead [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300229 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 6:52sec PRINCE The Sacrifice Of Victor [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300230 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 10:05sec PRINCE Nothing Compares 2 U [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300231 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:50sec PRINCE Thieves In The Temple [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300232 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 7:01sec PRINCE Sexy M.F. [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300233 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 5:45sec PRINCE Insatiable [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300234 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 7:42sec PRINCE Gett Off [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300242 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 6:11sec PRINCE Gett Off (Housestyle) [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300243 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 8:05sec PRINCE 1999/Baby I'm A Star/Push [Live at Glam Slam, Minneapolis, MN, 1/11/1992] USRH12300362 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 9:12sec
― birdistheword, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link
where is my Parade box dammit
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 18 August 2023 20:27 (eight months ago) link
^^
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:41 (eight months ago) link
I'd much prefer Parade too, but they haven't put out a real box set of stuff since Sign 'O' the Times three years ago, so I'll settle for this - a shame, they definitely had at least two sets ready that could've been released in the interim but everything with the estate got in the way.
Also more stuff from this era came up on PPL - someone posted this as well, all tracks listed on PPL:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F34TO0eXcAAB-5b?format=jpg&name=medium
― birdistheword, Saturday, 19 August 2023 18:57 (eight months ago) link
FWIW, this is what comes up as search results:
PRINCE Daddy Pop (12" Mix) USRH12201992 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 6:07secPRINCE Martika's Kitchen USRH12201993 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:21secPRINCE Spirit USRH12201994 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:32secPRINCE Open Book USRH12201995 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:59secPRINCE Work That Fat USRH12201996 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:35secPRINCE Horny Pony (Version 2) USRH12201997 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:21secPRINCE Something Funky (This House Comes) [Band Version] USRH12201998 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 7:04secPRINCE Hold Me USRH12201999 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:36secPRINCE Blood On The Sheets USRH12202000 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 5:46secPRINCE The Last Dance (Bang Pow Zoom And The Whole Nine) USRH12202001 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 5:36secPRINCE Get Blue USRH12202003 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:43secPRINCE Tip O' My Tongue USRH12202004 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:08secPRINCE The Voice USRH12202005 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:42secPRINCE Trouble USRH12202006 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 5:36secPRINCE Alice Through The Looking Glass USRH12202023 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:18secPRINCE Hey U USRH12202025 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 6:10secPRINCE Letter 4 Miles USRH12202026 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:36secPRINCE I Pledge Allegiance to Your Love USRH12202027 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:41secPRINCE Thunder Ballet USRH12202028 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 10:56secPRINCE Schoolyard USRH12201981 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 7:10secPRINCE My Tender Heart USRH12201982 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 5:06secPRINCE Pain USRH12201983 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 5:57secPRINCE Streetwalker USRH12201984 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:48secPRINCE Lauriann USRH12201985 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:15secPRINCE Insatiable (Early Mix) USRH12201986 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 8:01secPRINCE Glam Slam '91 USRH12201987 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 6:16secPRINCE Live 4 Love (Early Version) USRH12201988 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 7:32secPRINCE Skip To My You My Darling USRH12201990 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 3:57secPRINCE Cream (Take 2) USRH12300245 Warner Music UK Limited 2023 4:50sec
― birdistheword, Saturday, 19 August 2023 19:00 (eight months ago) link
Skip To You My Darlingaw, Skipper
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 19 August 2023 19:48 (eight months ago) link
Wow my heart just skipped a beat…finally get a live version of ‘Jughead’…I wonder if Tony M’s meisterwerk will finally be let loose on the world
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Saturday, 19 August 2023 21:27 (eight months ago) link
https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/prince-diamonds-and-pearls-reissue-confirmed-full-details/
― MaresNest, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:16 (eight months ago) link
Personally very upset this isn’t coming with a replica “gun microphone” or mustard yellow roller skates.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:21 (eight months ago) link
Jeff Gold's great story about working with Prince.
An excerpt:
I was WB’s new senior vp of creative services, responsible for the art department and much of marketing, and when I saw Prince’s proposed album cover—a tight close up of his face, with two fingers in front of his lips, and his tongue sticking out between them, I thought it was kind of…ridiculous.
Since the album was a major priority for the company, I went to Mo and Lenny with my concerns. They suggested I have a meeting with Prince, and so Benny Medina, who worked closely with Prince, set one up. I was a major Prince fan, having seen him on Purple Rain tour and a few other times, and while I knew of his difficult reputation, figured ‘what have I got to lose?’ What followed was surely the most difficult meeting of my career.
Benny’s office was dark and sort of cave-like, with no windows. I entered to find Benny at his desk and Prince sitting in the middle of a couch, with the obvious spot for me a couch opposite Prince. There was no small talk, then or ever, with Prince. Benny got to the point, introducing me and telling Prince that I wasn’t particularly fond of his album cover concept.
Just as Benny finished delivering the bad news, there was a knock on the door, and Benny’s attorney stuck in his head. He needed Benny right away. Benny left, and I was alone with Prince, in full hair, makeup, and clothed like he was about to take the stage (as he always was), sitting about 5’ across from me, not particularly happy. In hindsight, I’m not sure anybody at Warners had ever offered up a negative opinion about his album artwork. He’d earned the right to call the shots, and expected to do so. But still, that photo was so…weird.
We had an hour or more of very difficult semi-conversation, mostly about what I thought he might do instead. Prince had enormous charisma, knew it, and knew how to use it. He also knew how to use silence and pauses in conversation to intimidate people, and he did a great job with me. I spoke respectfully and generally about why I thought a different image might be better. He glared. At one point, he asked with incredulity ‘What do you want me to do, wear overalls like R.E.M.?’ A bit later he said ‘Maybe I should have some clothes made for you’. I was wearing jeans and a button up shirt; he was wearing lime green skin-tight pants, high-heel boots, and a day-glo green, pin-striped, see-through shirt.
After one pause, he said ‘show me some album covers you’ve done.’ I ran upstairs to my office and collected about 20 cd’s I’d worked on, most from my previous job at A&M Records. He looked at each one, saying something dismissive about it, until near the bottom of the pile, he saw a holographic limited edition package I’d worked on for Suzanne Vega’s album Days of Open Hand (which I’d won an art direction Grammy for.) ‘Now this is great’ he said. Why can’t I have a hologram?’
― birdistheword, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:06 (eight months ago) link
Looking over this set, I may probably hold off as well. I like the album, but it's not one of my favorite Prince albums - he had yet to successfully integrate rap elements into his music (I don't think that really happened until The Gold Experience, partly because Tony M was gone by then and Prince handled it himself). The original CD was already mastered fine, that was the primary format, and non-album stuff that's been out there already like the single edits and remixes never really interested me. The three discs of vault items are interesting, I'll check those out, and the live material may be great, but it's possible I'll just be fine with the album I already have.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:41 (eight months ago) link
Apparently eight tracks from a preliminary version of that D&P set (and ultimately removed from the final track list) has leaked. Have not heard them myself but supposedly some good stuff in there.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 24 September 2023 06:19 (seven months ago) link
i found an up of lauriann on YT, i won't bother linking because it'll probably be down by the time i finish posting, it's fucking _great_ tho
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:14 (seven months ago) link
I’m going to be aggravated if this turns out to be good and I buy a damn Diamonds and Pearls box set.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:26 (seven months ago) link
If this further fucks up and delays their Super Deluxe reissues, I'm going to be really pissed.
https://www.billboard.com/business/legal/prince-estate-lawsuit-heirs-attempting-seize-control-1235580400/
― birdistheword, Saturday, 13 January 2024 09:06 (three months ago) link
have his films been polled?
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 15 March 2024 04:32 (one month ago) link
ran across the lyrics from New World off Emancipation, both anti-trans and anti-vaxhttps://genius.com/Prince-new-world-lyrics
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:05 (one month ago) link
Ahead of the curve, as always. But srsly folks, was there anyone in the 80s up to and maybe including Boy George who blurred the lines between every boy and every girl than prince? Physician, heel thyself.
― It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 04:41 (one month ago) link
As much as I love Prince, he's always been a wildly uneven political commentator, moreso after he became a Jehovah's Witness (which happened not long after Emancipation). His discography has tons of dubious lyrics and plenty of critics flagged them in their original reviews. It's a credit to his tremendous gifts that the musical elements of his work was usually more than enough to overshadow his lyrical deficiencies.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:04 (one month ago) link
i can see how you could project an anti-trans reading on that but it seems like a stretch. how do we know that's what he meant?
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:09 (one month ago) link
he was a jehovah's witness for one
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:18 (one month ago) link
i'm sure he had some fucked up views, i just don't get that from the lyrics in this song
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:20 (one month ago) link
well obv i get the anti-vax thing from these lyrics. but which part is anti-trans?
As bird stated earlier, the song was recorded well before he became a JW. Likely around 1994. He converted around 2001. Also it stole its premise from Brave New World and likely didn't reflect any strong opinion of his own. Were anti-vax or anti-trans positions even on his radar at that time? Probably not.
― sawdust lagoon, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:27 (one month ago) link
or he's always been much more conservative than we thought
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:32 (one month ago) link
i don't know, a guy like prince, all you can is "it's complicated"
he wasn't always a JW, but he always loved god, he was always a Christian, and in those days, everything he learned about God was that God hated queerness. and something in him loved queerness, loved lesbians especially. "vagina was half boy and half girl/best of both worlds"... i mean, that's a gross way of looking at lesbians, but there's a _fascination_ there, at least. his closest collaborators were wendy and lisa, the work he did with them was the best of his career, and then he fired them for, well, being lesbian, mostly. he loved women, loved being around women, and he abused women. abused everyone around him, but especially women. he sings about wanting to be alone, and at the same time he kind of hated being alone. he sings about not taking pills and he took them, took them to deal with chronic pain, pain that stemmed in large part from his spending all those years walking around in high heels, and they killed him.
life gets complicated. sometimes. i mean, you look at little richard... with prince it was always a two-step, prince was never openly _queer_, he just had a, uh, sexuality. but little richard, him and queerness and god... it was complicated. little richard hated himself, and that's really sad to me. he shouldn't have had to go through all of that. it doesn't excuse anything. it's just what happened.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:13 (one month ago) link
that's an even-handed and generous reading of prince imo.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:57 (one month ago) link
i've cooled on him since his death tbqf
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:58 (one month ago) link
yah great post Kate
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:02 (one month ago) link
Excellent post Kate.
Also, just in case it wasn't known, Prince was raised as a Seventh-day Adventist, so he was probably surrounded by very social conservative brands of Christianity his entire life. And IIRC the Star-Tribune published an epic oral history after Prince's death where Wendy Melvoin mentioned that during one attempt at reconciliation (well after Prince had converted to JW), he asked her to renounce her sexuality and convert as well - pretty bad, but it's probably something I would've predicted given what was publicly known about his faith. It was a bittersweet remembrance though - Wendy knew the path he had taken and what it meant in terms of their friendship, that things would remain a mess, but she forgave him.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:56 (one month ago) link
Thanks to Kate and bird for the nuances
― sawdust lagoon, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:13 (one month ago) link
https://polishedsolid.substack.com/p/my-2023-prince-year-in-review
The person who does this Substack just had a Prince conference this weekend in NY and am seeing lots of folks speaking highly of it online
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 April 2024 14:54 (three weeks ago) link