i was asking borntohula who seemed to indicate the interview was keeping him/her from enjoying the record
― mizzell, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
(and they ALL DO)
this is interesting, imagine a lot of the time this is not perfectly true. i've never not thought about the music i've made a lot, but i see why it's an attractive thing to say in an interview, seems cooler
― flopson, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
don't mean to say that whiney shouldn't answer
― mizzell, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
The ruthless taxonomy that Facebook, Amazon, AllMusic etc impose makes that chatter a requirement.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
aw man, the men! i like the new one but i'm just getting around to listening to other stuff from Leave Home (other than Bataille, which obviously rules) and it's so amazing. THINK
― 1986 Olive Garden (Z S), Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
I'm saying when a band says that (and they ALL DO), I edit it out of my interview instead of put it on YouTube, ymmv
whiney otm
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 10 March 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
like when i was watching that i was like "are they really gonna linger on how these dudes don't recognize 'genres'"
flopson: more or less.
mizell: the video isn't ruining my enjoyment of the record. it's just not making me like them any more.
Alfred, Lord Sotosyn: i don't believe for a second that the "ruthless taxonomy of Facebook" etc is what they're responding to here. it seems more a reaction to how critics championed their last record for its effortless shifts in styles, and how they've been asked a lot already about the notable "softer" sound on open your heart.
― borntohula, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
It's like this thread has intersected with the Magnetic Fields one.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
this album is cool, but i wish there were less instrumental tracks... sorta feels like an outtakes/b-sides collection to me or something
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
i'm skeptical of anyone who likes this album but not the last against me! album
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
or No Age!
(whom I like)
How does the Against Me! analogy work? These guys so far show no interesting in Saying Anything beyond formalism.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
i was basically trolling... it doesn't make all that much sense
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah anyone who hats the last Against Me! record is a turnip.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
or hates it
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, no age is a good comparison actually. i kinda wish no age sounded more like the men tho.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda wish no age sounded more like the men tho.
Legit.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
i'm getting a strong Dead Flowers vibe from the song Candy. elsewhere i'm hearing a lot of the Replacements. this is clicking with me a lot more than, say, the Cloud Nothings album from this year did.
― charlie h, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
i'm skeptical of anyone who likes this album but doesn't plan to vote mitt romney for president
― caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
i'm skeptical of anyone who likes this album but doesn't like sauteed broccoli rabe
i'm skeptical of anyone who likes this album but doesn't own "This Old House: the Complete Bob Vila Years 1979-1989" on DVD
― caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
i'm skeptical of anyone who likes this album and is wearing pants right now
― caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
i like this album fine but don't really get what's special about it and why it's getting so much attention
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
brooklyn
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
nice guitar work, nice mix of genres and sounds, some catchy moments, some 'epic' critic bait tracks, this is pretty much the definition of the kind of rock album that gets lots of attention.
― skip, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
this and the Cloud Nothings are a nice pair. as someone who has listened to a lot of amateurish garage rock the last couple years (and many of CN's and the Men's influences growing up) it's good to hear those sounds packaged into something a bit more adult and professional.
― skip, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
skip otm, but also because its fits into the nice narrative of, "the last album was really good, but this is bigger! more expansive!"
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
I love this cover for a live cassette they put out, nice Cluster reference:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tawD_LRlJVE/T1bMtpfOFpI/AAAAAAAAAHM/ipIYy4vzkD0/s320/DPLIVE.jpg
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
huh i don't really hear it. it's a really good-sounding rock album but doesn't really have much in the way of songs or structure to my ears.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
as much as they're kind of weasel words crit-wise, it doesn't seem 'bigger' or more 'expansive' than 'Leave Home' to me - that 'My War'/Swans molasses hardcore tempo that some of the songs have def strikes me as 'big' when it's done well (which this v much is imo), likewise 'Bataille' and whatever the song was called w/ the Spacemen 3 ripoff bit in it
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
I mean I understand why an album that doesn't have any blown out 10bpm sludge tracks on it is getting more mainstream luv than one that does, don't get me wrong
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
so far I think Leave Home is better but I'm definitely liking this
― dmr, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
damn, now yr really making me miss the sludge.
― bendy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
"leave home" is definitely better but this is good imo, the really explosive rock cuts are great, like half of the slow twangy stuff is super boring
― flopson, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
i've already cooled on this album, think i was swayed by Candy, which is still awesome. most of the other songs are good not great.
― mizzell, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
i like this a lot, but its also pretty much a guided trip through (not ilxor's) some dude's record collection
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
whats wrong with that?
― nostormo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
nothing, as i said i really like the album, i just also get why people might not
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't think "Candy" would be the keeper...
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
ok. i asked cause you said "but".xpost
― nostormo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
less instrumentals would improve it for sure
― nostormo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i was just trying to describe it, i think its p awesome and i actually love even the country songs
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
Candy could've been be a Replacements song imo
― nostormo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, the sound and songwriting are replacements quality imo
― mizzell, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
like combining country-tinged Stones with garage rock and krautrock is pretty much a key to my heart anyways
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
Replacements,Sonic Youth,Dinosaur Jr.,Stooges, Ramones, Wipers, etc - each song/different influence.
― nostormo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
that little section after the chorus (i think) where it locks into a krauty groove is great.xp
― mizzell, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
i need to come back to it. i listened to it once and got pumped, and immediately backtracked to Leave Home, which i've been listening to on repeat ever since pretty much.
― 1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Friday, 30 March 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
I like this. Cloud Nothings and The Men constitute a mini indie guitar revival for old people.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, only that Cloud Nothing's influences are better than themand The Men are as good as them
― nostormo, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
― kornrulez6969, Friday, March 30, 2012 8:43 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah kinda but i feel like it's "opening bands from 97" or something
― the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
As someone who stood through many opening bands from 1997, I'll take it.
Side project: let's list the big indie opening bands of 1997.
HeliumRailroad JerkStrapping Fieldhands
Any more? Come on old people!
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
versus?
― mizzell, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
Asha Vida?Trans Am?Gravitar?
― what is a dog-robber? (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
Dissolve?
p sure i saw trans am headlining by that point, i think pole opened for them
i guess i meant just the random local bands thrown on national bills (which was the custom here in mpls not sure abt elsewhere)
― the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
The L.A. go-to opening band in 1997 was Strictly Ballroom, who eventually became Dntel and Beachwood Sparks.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
when i saw them live they didn't play anything off leave home, really disappointing. i don't hate this album or anything but it's pretty remarkable how much more boring they became between albums
― flopson, Saturday, 31 March 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
if you could describe something as "shitty" but have it be a compliment it would be this album
― call all destroyer, Monday, 23 April 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
Dwayne "King Shit of Splash Mountain" Johnson
http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/58/58117/rocksplashmountain_jpg_627x1000_q85.jpg
― caulk the wagon and float it, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
album covers waiting to happen
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
Except for its tempo, that song above would fit comfortably next to "Working for the Weekend" and "Two Tickets to Paradise" on classic rock radio.
― Poliopolice, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
reminds me of Love As Laughter quite a bit in parts. Turn It Around almost sounds like an intentional rip of something from Sea To Shining Sea
― suburban buttshaven cannibal (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
the new one, New Moon, has leaked. just started listening to it. lots of acoustic guitar on this one!
― borntohula, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
I was at this show - it's funny how the camera person tries to make it look like it was maximum carnage in there (there was a sort of half-ironic pit for a while, but the room is too tiny to really do anything THAT wild). Anyway, I like this tune; looking forward to the album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11kuxpMtmM
― She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 08:04 (eleven years ago) link
It's time to leave home and open your heart to a New Moon - the new record by The Men
― nostormo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 12:04 (eleven years ago) link