I hate coffee

sometimes i make americanos out of the illy pods we have at work if the coffee in the drip pot is all gone. but i just don't like them. it's just not the same. watery espresso doesn't really compare to brewed coffee for me.

I get the pleasant morning buzz from wf (pre-ground because I am lazy) and agree that the bag design is terrible. I cut the bag open and then use an office binder clip to shut it. On weekends I get lovely cappuccinos courtesy of the spouse, who uses Peet's Major Dickson blend and grinds them in a Rancilio grinder named Rocky.

been practicing some pour over techniques, feel like maybe it does bring some additional distinction to the flavors, but idk i dont drink coffee that much

aw the rocky is a p good grinder!

bought single plantation beans for the purpose B-)

what is your technique

i basically just watched this video and a couple others like it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6_gKNsQ1vQ

needless to say i do not actually possess any of the special gear featured therein

I need to find a kettle w/ a spout like that

the rocky is a p serious grinder - what espresso machine?

I don't find a huge diff btw the pour over and an ok drip machine tbh - the best single serve method I have found other than espresso is still a small press pot

idk feel like if you want to go truly zen w/ a pourover you should get a nel drip

http://i.imgur.com/xJlWH.jpg

feel like paper filters make the coffee taste paper-y :(

i am pretty happy with my cuisinart machine. still haven't replaced my french press that broke and probably won't.

feiw that kettle, the bono, costs like 70 iirc. bu the time you add the other pour over gear you can get a very nice drip machine that you don't have to stand over for ten minutes to make a pot

sorry buono

agree about paper filters. helps to pre wet the filter with boiling water

communing w/the coffee is a profound experience

yah they pre wet the filters

I do like watching the beautiful brown red foam the bubbles up

yah see

over in east asia there's a company called tiamo that just copies all of hario's designs you can probably find the tiamo version of the kettle for half the price, unfortunately it doesn't look like they do retail sales in america but maybe you can find some nyc coffee shop that imports them wholesale for cheap

I commune with the coffee when I drink it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-gWPQvdDqs

I am v. skeptical that anyone could reliably pass a blind taste test to tell the difference between a cup made w/ the 'perfect pour over method devices' and a cup made w/ a $1 piece of plastic device and a regular kettle but I guess you are paying for the bougie zen experience or whatever

I do like watching the beautiful brown red foam the bubbles up

― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:54 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah this is a good indicator of how fresh the coffee is, the more 'bloom' the fresher it is, it's CO2 iirc, some people like really freshly roasted others like it after it's 'settled in' 2-3 days after roasting others like it even longer after roasting just comes down to your taste budderoos

I commune with the coffee when I drink it

― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:57 AM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u need to have a more holistic approach

I am v. skeptical that anyone could reliably pass a blind taste test to tell the difference between a cup made w/ the 'perfect pour over method devices' and a cup made w/ a $1 piece of plastic device and a regular kettle but I guess you are paying for the bougie zen experience or whatever

― iatee, Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:57 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this is empirically false btw ; )

next time you are in town we are doing this experiment

okay but you gotta buy the beans + the perfect pour over device

I am v. skeptical that anyone could reliably pass a blind taste test to tell the difference between a cup made w/ the 'perfect pour over method devices' and a cup made w/ a $1 piece of plastic device and a regular kettle but I guess you are paying for the bougie zen experience or whatever

― iatee, Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:57 AM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

theres that def but it also just makes the process easier, which is what a lot of fancy kitchen equipment is abt, like you dont have to have a good knife to cook well but it will prevent mistakes/avoid frustration/let you flow in the zone, tho this coffee stuff prob isnt as necessary for good coffee as a good knife is for good cooking

iatee has the right idea though, if you never teach yourself to taste the differences among all the coffees you'll be happy drinking dunkin donuts coffee and will never have to pay a lot of money for coffee

basically I do the pour over at work and the press at home. home coffee tastes better. but I just finally ordered a new bottomless porta filter for the long out of commission pavoni so that's probably going to take over

obvs there are coffee devices that make a huge difference but in the case of the poor over i think hes prob m/l right

ultimately I find the beans, freshness and grind make more difference than the technique as long as its within a range of acceptable technique

ime there's a big diff between a nel drip and a paper drip, and also a big diff between a swissgold and a paper drip xp

xp to dan

nah there is a difference between not tasting the difference between types of coffee and being skeptical that the shape of the filter you are pouring it in is going to affect the taste in a detectable manner

yah beans and grind are obvs key, shape of the filter/subtlety of the kettle im not so sure

i am doing a thing at work where i have to always be with one of my bosses because he is teaching me things and we finished something extra early one day this week and he was like do you wanna get coffee and work on this other thing we can go to dunkin donuts and i was like *ew* and then i felt kind of guilty but i hate dunkin donuts coffee. that is one of the ways i ended up going to starbucks this week.

hav u tried the new starbucks blonde

I feel w/ paper drips the pouring process does matter, if you pour in all the water at once it drains really quickly and you get thin and weak coffee

yah pouring over slow is key too

starbucks blonde is p lol, after years of burning the hell out of their beans they are finally thinking about offering a city roast

I def get shit at work for not using the Keurig but one must maintain some dignity even in an office

oh yeah obv don't pour in all the water at once it pushes the coffee out of the way

i saw the blonde thing but i don't like light roast so i did not get it

I use a melitta plastic pourover w/ melitta brown paper filters when Im at my parents house, it's totally ass coffee :(

http://i.imgur.com/LIIS5.jpg

feel like this is prob close to iatee's $1 filter

I love light roasts but sbux beans are shit

i didn't know that city roast meant light roast everywhere. why do they call it that? is there a suburban roast (not for iatee) and a rural roast.

city roast is what people 'in the know' call it congratulations you are now in the know

it feels good