salon vs. slate vs. atlantic

like even in the neu-era of tv there really are not that many 'ps this is clearly meant to be a work of art' shows

a lot of criticism about tv -- say in the NYer though in a lot of places online too -- comes a few seasons in. so its less buyers guide (though theres a "recommendation" aspect to it) than it is like. i dont know. "actual criticism" or something. see for example emily nussbaums essay about the good wife, now in the middle of its 3rd season, in last weeks NYer

i thought nussbaum's recent piece about good children's television was excellent

i haven't read the nyer in a long time, i probably have bad memories of the franklin regime

hey should i start a thread about that AWAKE show? i think it's kinda good

i also like troy patterson but i feel like he's been "off" for a while idk. i haven't been able to read dana stevens for years and i used to be a fan back in her blog days so i mean it's probably me. dahlia lithwick is easily the best and most consistent writer at slate.

x-post i only like tv criticism that realizes its own pointlessness from the start and hopefully 1) lols ensue 2) you learn something about tv shows you would never want to know. nb i hate tv.

an occasional essay about an entire genre of television is fine. A piece on a single show is almost always bad, unless it's one of a handful of really great shows, in which case it's already been written about enough. The worst are those new-season-of-tv roundups where you watch the critic contort himself to find the better and worse among a bunch of completely shitty shows.

lots of times you get these tv-diaries episode by episode recap things where it really ends up being sort of like a group discussion with a moderator, so the author is just talking about what they did or didn't enjoy in the episode and in the comments everyone else chimes in and you get theories about if sawyer was the horse or who is going to sleep with who or whatever. so basically like a more formal version of our rolling ilx threads. and folks read and participate for the same reason -- because its more fun to consume this or that media if you have people to talk about it and argue about it with.

arguably this is not what people consider "criticism." also, arguably, this is more like what criticism used to be in a historical sense until it took a weird detour roughly coinciding with the time of modernism.

i have a hard time believing that tv writing is bad because of tv

OHHHHH wait are you guys all talking about "recaps"? thats not really "tv criticism" as sterling points out

There's a difference between recaps and reviews, even on a weekly, episode-by-episode basis.

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foto finish

salon is better w/ books than slate

http://www.salon.com/
ew

freezes my browser for like 3 minutes every time i go there + looks ugly = mega-dud

and it was so sensible-looking before, shame

so gross

The "S" looks deformed

hahaha what??

it looks for all the world like the design team was given a brief with one phrase on a piece of paper:

"vogue for men"

from the pages of slate comments:

Molly
I have been a s!ut many many times. I am not proud of it. I think I understand this left-leaning website continuing to write articles about it. They seem to think it will help them get a liberal elected. I do not think it will. Nothing they say here will matter in the election just as what I just said will not matter. Still, it is fun having a place to tell the world stuff. Thank you, slate for letting me say that.
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no molly, thank you

there's actually a whole weird comment community going on on this article:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/04/27/sluts_across_america_doesn_t_reclaim_the_word_slut_it_makes_it_meaningless.html

same bunch of ppl teaching each other how to post and telling corny jokes

DaveB_NH
"There is no such thing as a slut,"
Said Sister Ignatius, "but
Do not be a skank;
They're really quite rank:
Kardashians don't make the cut."
Molly, outsidethebox and PatriciaSage like this.
5 Hours Ago from slate.com

^^too easy

xp

solitary dadjoekz that sum up ilx

was gonna say new board descrip

i really love Salon running those Imprint columns

excerpt from anthony swofford's new memoir. i really don't know what to make of it. it seems totally insane to me, but i think that's the point right? the author is acknowledging his own sort of psychosis here? http://www.salon.com/2012/06/11/sex_facing_death/singleton/

that redesign is something

what is up with slate's new recent fascination with adults that choose childlessness?

read that as "adults who choose childishness" and was gonna be like i don't think it's just slate

how was there not a "wait, what's the difference?" option

recent fascination with adults that choose childlessness

is this really that new? almost feel it's up there with "feminist dissatisfied" as far as "provocative" trend pieces go.

except they've run an article on it every day for the last week!

it's like one of the editors went crazy for the topic

no-baby crazy

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/06/child_free_women_explain_themselves_.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/06/12/choosing_not_to_have_kids_i_d_rather_die_alone.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/06/13/choosing_to_be_child_free_career_mobility_.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/06/13/choosing_to_be_child_free_tubes_tied_at_26.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/06/14/child_free_do_they_change_their_minds_.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/06/14/choosing_to_be_child_free_there_are_other_kinds_of_babies_.html

there may be more that i missed

It seems like all the slate editors have four kids each, so it's either some perverse fascination or yearning for a different path

It was week long series btw, not a bunch of random individual articles

this person is responsible for a lot of shitty salon articles:
http://twitter.com/prachigu

she literally just started there last week

this is a horrific nightmare

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/29/what_if_the_romney_sons_were_a_boy_band/

well, first i read this piece of breaking news: http://www.salon.com/2012/08/29/dumb_tweet_of_the_day_14/

then went back into the archive and found these unconscionable acts against humanity:
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/29/child_bride_courtney_stodden_turns_18_today/
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/29/what_if_the_romney_sons_were_a_boy_band/
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/28/more_naked_prince_harry/

it seems like it goes on and on. if she really only started last week then she's already produced a prolific amount of vapid celebrity webpage view content!

five

i dunno man if you think this is shitty and unconscionable i hope you dont read my website!

well obv