This has been a great exercise and over the last few days I've been listening to things I haven't heard in years or never before and so I'm not going to post my ballot cos I'd change 75% of it now. Anyway, Be My Wife was my #1.
I think the highest-placed song that I didn't vote for at all was Sound & Vision (fatigue!) and my highest-placed tune that didn't make the top 60 was Jump They Say.
What a life.
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
A couple of final questions/impressions, now that I'm jammed full of chicken curry and don't want to gnaw my own arm off:
• Why the hell did "Life on Mars" win? Did the TV show(s) give it a higher profile than it would have had otherwise? I like the song well enough, but from my vantage point (late 40s/US/rural) it was invisible until 10 days ago. Did it do better among voters east of the Atlantic compared to the US?
• The post-1983 shutout in the top 60 is regrettable. There is a lot of really good material from the last 29(!) years. Ultimately I'd characterize the top 60 as a whole 60% Strength of 70s Catalog/40% LOL Nostalgia. Maybe that's too harsh?
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
In answer to the second question, I think that Bowie's 70's catalogue is a) so strong and b) so varied, that even if he hadn't have had that sucky period in the early 80's the percentages would have been about the same.
― c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
Although now I've got to disagree that I don't think it's 40% LOL Nostalgia - more like 10%. The older stuff is dope, no feelings of nostalgia needed.
― c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
The Life Aquatic might have something to do w it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
Meaningful Bill Murray smoking a J
My mostly singles heavy ballot (been appreciating the albums a lot more, no small thanks to this poll, but the radio friendly stuff has been burnt into my brain since childhood, not sure it will ever be surpassed):
Station to StationSound and VisionAshes to AshesLife on MarsFive YearsSpace OddityThe Man Who Sold the WorldHeroesChangesOh You Pretty ThingsStarmanLook Back in AngerZiggy StardustRebel RebelYoung AmericansChina GirlLet's DanceSuffragette CityFameUnder Pressure
Albums:
Station to StationHunky DoryLowZiggy StardustLet's Dance
― ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
I'm mid-40s/US/urban and iI didn't hesitate for a second putting Life on Mars? as my favorite: a) epic and cinematic b) incredible arrangement and Rick Wakeman's piano c) the generosity of spirit--no glacial distancing here--it's kind of a love letter to his fans ultimately
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
I would have said, as a UK radio listener from the late 70s on, that Life on Mars has always been high profile over here.
― ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
The US TV show was cancelled after less than a season, so I can't imagine it made much of an impact in terms of vast numbers of people suddenly becoming aware of the song. I didn't hear it myself until 1991, and while it's definitely a standout on Hunky Dory, it didn't knock me out as much as about 5 other songs on that record.
― we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
It's on here, that's pretty high profile, right?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-SingStar-Legends-Solus-PS2/dp/B000HKBAUC
If my flatmates weren't in I'd go and bust out a version right now.
― ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
Life On Mars has always really annoyed me and now I'm going to have to go away and figure out why. Have seemingly known that song since I was aware of pop music so yes, what ledge said about its high profile over here.
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
IIRC, "Life On Mars?" has popped up in some other movies and trailers (besides Zissou, in which tbh I thought it was used poorly). Hunky Dory's stock has risen in recent years and I think to many it's THE SONG on the album.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
I should recognize my own hypocrisy here and note that there's nothing on my ballot newer than "Ashes to Ashes".
xps -- ah, I haven't seen The Life Aquatic yet, so that solves a bit of the mystery for me.
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
I think its singularity counts for a lot--the other major songs on HD have counterparts elsewhere (or on the same album!)
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
my picks:
1. What In The World2. Life On Mars?3. Rock 'n' Roll Suicide 4. Sound and Vision5. Cat People (Soundtrack)6. Oh! You Pretty Things7. Changes8. "Heroes"9. Let's Dance10. Under Pressure11. Ashes To Ashes12. Rebel Rebel13. Ziggy Stardust14. Starman15. Dancing In The Street16. Always Crashing In The Same Car17. Fashion18. Golden Years19. The Man Who Sold The World20. Space Oddity
lol at my only non-placing pick.
I had Life On Mars? as my no.1 initially, I bumped up "What In The World" cos I figured it needed the points more (and I do really love it).
Thanks a million for doing this WmC, really looking forward to checking out the many songs here I'm not familiar with.
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
and yes, Hunky Dory has risen to be the fan favorite in recent years, friendlier than Station to Station
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
― we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat),
solid gold screen name btw
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
Albums
"Heroes"Ziggy StardustHunky DoryStation to StationLowAladdin SaneDiamond DogsScary MonstersLodgerYoung Americans
Space OddityThe Man who Sold the World
Songs
"Heroes"Station to StationSweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)Life on MarsJoe the LionTimeAlways Crashing in the Same CarTeenage WildlifeZiggy StardustAladdin SaneSpace OddityBlackoutRed SailsFameAshes to AshesLady Grinning SoulOh You Pretty ThingsLady StardustWidth of a CircleWarszawa
― Mother, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
For me (a nigh 40 year old), "Life On Mars?" jumped out as the standout when I first heard Hunky Dory in '91. Over the years, it's only grown in my estimation.
Life Aquatic can suck it. Almost ruined Bowie for me.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
I've never seen Life Aquatic or whatever tv show WmC referred to in his initial post about Life on Mars -- I just think it's a really good song. TBH I am not really aware of what critical brouhaha surrounds any of Bowie's stuff, I just like the songs I like. And those are the songs I voted for. My opinion is not important in the greater scheme of things, nor is the greater scheme of things really that important to my opinion about these songs.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
I did it this way:
Songs01 Rock 'n' Roll Suicide02 Look Back In Anger03 "Heroes"04 Five Years05 Moonage Daydream06 Life on Mars07 Oh! You Pretty Things08 Changes09 John, I'm Only Dancing10 Rebel Rebel11 Drive In Saturday12 Golden Years13 Be My Wife14 Panic In Detroit15 The Jean Genie16 Sound and Vision17 Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)18 D.J.19 What in the World20 Aladdin Sane
Albums01 Lodger02 Low03 "Heroes"04 Aladdin Sane05 The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
Genuinely pained over omitting "Win." Nearly included "Neuköln." Flip-flopped over #1 & #2 placings. Overall satisfied. The Dinah Shore clip is awesome and the crap quality kind of suits it.
― Kent Burt, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
My Ballot
Letter To HermioneMoonage DaydreamSound and VisionRebel RebelAshes To AshesLife On Mars?John, I'm Only DancingStarmanZiggy StardustDrive In SaturdayChangesFameLet's DanceSpace OddityBuddha Of SuburbiaStayLady StardustQueen BitchHeroesJean Genie
― Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
Really was expecting Letter to Hermione to place at least in the lower ranks but you don't really care about music, do ya?
Moonage Daydream and Sound and Vision on the top 10 is good enough for me. Life on Mars? at number one is sort of a perfect encapsulation on Bowie's career.
― Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
My ballot which was sent too late to qualify:
Life On Mars? Sound and Vision "Heroes" Win Oh! You Pretty Things TVC 15 Thru' These Architects Eyes Station To Station Beauty and The Beast Breaking Glass Boys Keep Swinging Fashion Modern Love African Night Flight Man Who Sold The World Changes Drive In Saturday Golden Years Scary Monsters Aladdin Sane
Agree that it's a shame nothing after Let's Dance qualified. Great job, WmC!
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
I just want to post this lovely picture
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera)
That's Hermione btw.
― Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
i am taking note of who voted D.J. and who did not >:[
― horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://robotmantheblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/david_bowie_diaper.jpg
― Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, no idea how it wasn't in mine. Then again, my vote didn't count so...
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
This is my favorite bowie photo. Classiest mugshot i've seen, almost looks like a fashion photoshoot.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxwmfjYtrV1qb4j60o1_500.jpg
― Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
he looks like a hitler youth in that photo, but he is beautiful
― horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
my ballot:
songs:
1. John, I'm Only Dancing2. Aladdin Sane (1913 - 1938 - 197?)3. Sound And Vision4. Sons Of The Silent Age5. Lady Grinning Soul6. The Bewlay Brothers7. Drive-In Saturday8. Ashes to Ashes9. Warszawa10. Station To Station11. Starman12. The Width Of A Circle13. The Supermen14. Life On Mars?15. Golden Years16. Always Crashing In The Same Car17. Stay18. Moonage Daydream19. Yassassin (Turkish For: Long Live)20. Time
albums:
1. Aladdin Sane2. Low3. Hunky Dory4. Lodger5. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust & the Spiders from Mars
― silverfish, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
xpost:
I'm presuming that's when he got busted for marijuana, right? :)
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
wau Lady Grinning Soul didn't place.
― piscesx, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
this guy's songbook is truly an embarrassment of riches. on a different note, he's really not liked by critics, is he (other than the so-called Berlin trilogy perhaps)? or was that just in the 70s?
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
In the US he was regarded with quite a lot of suspicion for most of the seventies. I just realized this today, and as heretical as it may sound the skeptical American critics explained his strategies exactly how they revealed themselves with greater care than the Brits, who accepted Bowie as he wanted to be: a superb pop artist/Pop Artist who scored many hits. Those early Greil Marcus and Lester Bangs essays are hilarious and quite apt not-quite-eviscerations, which is why their eventual conversion is more rewarding.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 March 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
Re: Life on Mars--I wasn't really aware of the song until a couple years ago; Scott Miller, the guy from Game Theory, talked very highly of it when he started making those year by year mixtapes; I think he said it was his favourite song of '71. (He kept talking about what he called music-hall-descent-with-a-twist, which he traced from When a Man Loves a Woman, through Whiter Shade of Pale, to Life on Mars, Bell Bottom Blues, and All the Young Dudes). Anyways, I listened to the youtube then, but I wasn't really impressed. But when I got Spotify I decided to try to listen to classic Bowie run of albums finally. "Life on Mars" really shines in the context of that album, and esp since I got sick of "Changes" (way more played out than "Space Odditty") it seemed almost like a no-brainer...
― top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 9 March 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
i had DJ on my ballot kinda shocked it didn't place
― buzza, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
my #6
also 1984 was a bit of a surprise too
― buzza, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link
when i was 20 i was studying abroad in Paris and i became infatuated with a 27 year old French girl who lived in my building. we became pretty good friends, though it quickly became apparent that she had quite a poised, arms-length way of stemming any kind of advance from a young Australian guy like myself. she was elegant, insightful and beautiful. and she absolutely adored Bowie. of course i was very familiar with him prior to this point, but it was probably sometime around then that i realised he really was all that.
anway, my top 20:
1. always crashing in the same car2. word on a wing3. oh! you pretty things4. panic in detroit5. station to station6. what in the world7. moonage daydream8. life on mars9. rebel rebel10. be my wife11. TVC1512. cracked actor13. ashes to ashes14. sons of the silent age15. modern love16. sound and vision17. fame18. five years19. the width of a circle20. heroes
― charlie h, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
Mine, songs:01 Young Americans02 Moonage Daydream03 Sound and Vision04 Quicksand05 Drive In Saturday06 Time07 The Man Who Sold the World08 Ashes to Ashes09 Velvet Goldmine10 TVC-1511 Be My Wife12 Modern Love13 Fantastic Voyage14 Queen Bitch15 Space Oddity '6916 Sweet Thing17 Kooks18 Under Pressure19 Oh! You Pretty Things20 Rebel Rebel
albums:01 Hunky Dory02 Diamond Dogs03 Low04 Ziggy Stardust05 Alladin Sane
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
MOKA -- That is why I posted it!!! It is Hermione.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
well in that case I love you.
― Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
Wonder where or if "Absolute Beginners" will place. Those of you around at the time: was it regarded as a Brief Return To Form, as it is now?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, March 8, 2012 3:24 AM (Yesterday)
I loved that it was this six-something-minute epic pop song.
― "marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
No "Blue Jean" on anyone's ballot! No "This Is Not America"!
Sincerely,1986
― "marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
Did you vote, Eazy?If not, cram it.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
Aw, Lech!
― "marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
I voted for Blue Jean.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 9 March 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
Only sad that "the Prettiest Star" didn't make it into the top 50, and thought maybe the alternate version of Candidate might place higher, even if I only had it at #5 on my poll. Also, if you combine the votes for Sweet Thing, Candidate and Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing it jumps up from #35 to #24, just edging out "Under Pressure."
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
Thank you so much WmC, this was a hugely enjoyable poll and I appreciate your outstanding effort!
Regret: I should have voted for Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing instead of Under Pressure, because it's bonkers-amazing and because in my heart I know that Under Pressure is really a Queen song after all.
Surprises: Life On Mars? If ILM says so. Also, I thought for sure 'Heroes' would win. Mainly, I was pretty shocked at the deafening ILM silence for Bowie in the 80s, 90s, and 00s.
Regrettable but Irrefutable Conclusion: David Bowie is a radio, and cocaine is by far the greatest station.
My ballot
ALBUMS: 1.Diamond Dogs (8)2.Aladdin Sane (7)3.Lodger (6)4.Low (1)5.Hunky Dory (3) SONGS: 1.Young Americans (7)2.The Man Who Sold The World (12)3.We Are The Dead4.Joe The Lion (51)5. Golden Years (6)6. It's No Game (Part 1) (40)7.Scary Monsters (49)8.Station To Station (4)9.Under Pressure (23)10.Drive In Saturday (27)11.Aladdin Sane (35)12.Loving The Alien13.All The Madmen 14.Ashes To Ashes (2)15.Beauty and The Beast (57)16.This Is Not America 17.Sons of The Silent Age (50)18.Diamond Dogs (48)19.The Jean Genie (42)20.The Bewlay Brothers (46)
― Foster The Hoople (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link