Let an EXCELSIOR be an EXCELSIOR, and let sleeping LOLS lie

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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=british+estate&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=901&bih=278&sei=lXRXT4n-G6qx0AWm9OzVDQ#q=british+estate&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbm=isch&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=a41f185f5fb03db8&biw=901&bih=440

link includes google.co.uk, refuse to acknowledge

"ponce" originally meant a pimp, then came to mean "a gay or camp man", "nonce" comes from "nonsense" and originally referred to sexual offenders in general, is still often used that way but generally connotes "a chester" in 2012

"glassing a suspected nonce in an estate pub" gives altogether a much clearer result

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=glassing+a+suspected+nonce+in+an+estate+pub

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzl14MUyp3qShKPuoMIyOJ-4Mb5-50tDr7FTzJwTwelSoeaKoK2H9NKtdFPA

this just SCREAMS "british estate"

"ponce" and "nonce" still used interchangeably but the former is losing currency in general i think

http://septicscompanion.com/

this is actually pretty accurate

there is a theory that nonce is a prison-derived acronym - not on normal communal exercise

"ponce" and "nonce" still used interchangeably but the former is losing currency in general i think

the de Leon family heaves a sigh of relief

xp that stuff always sounds like a retronym to me, altho "non-specific" rings truer

the first word particularly helpful??
http://septicscompanion.com/word.php?w=abseil

i ain't alf gonna abseil later with 'er indoors innit me old china.

yeah, it sounds a bit too clumsy to be right - the 'normal' is surely redundant xp

idk how useful this is when it seems ppl found it unclear even with the idiomatic terms explained

I dunno, they get to exercise communally with other inmates also not on normal etc.

I thought I was setting someone up for a tasteless "fountain of youth" joke, but I guess I was wrong.

nonce sense

http://www.brandalert.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/nonce-sense-social-media.jpg

the worst of the senses

Wait, what's a chester?

Which British television series currently available in the US do you recommend non-Brits watch to help us understand your jokes and foster stronger international relations?

Downton Abbey?

chester -> molester I would think

I saw some porn in a hedgerow while out cycling at the weekend! Good times.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:13 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so THAT was the bustle Led Zep were singing about...

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:15 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"in the USA, "estate" only connotes money and aristocracy."

i think to most people in the u.s. it connotes death! cuz that's when you have to settle someone's estate and all that. you know, estate planning and all that. but not just for rich people. one of my fave things to do is go to estate sales. but these are not usually rich people's houses either. it just means whatever someone owns here.

but, obviously still connected with money...just in a different way.

chester -> molester I would think

― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:48 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Specifically CHild molESTER.

rhyming slang is so confusing

I think it's an American term! I learned about it on Springer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_the_Molester

wow, i didn't know about the prison thing with that guy. kind of the worst cartoon ever though. maybe should have just gone to prison for being so unfunny.

well 'his conviction was overturned on the grounds that his conviction violated the First Amendment because it was based, in part, on his comic strip.'

weird. wonder what the deal was?

Am I parsing this correctly? His comic strip was evidence used to convict this dude of molesting his daughter and his conviction was overturned on First Amendment grounds?

So, if I manage to publish a bunch of cartoons about robbing banks, I can rob a bank?

I don't get that at all. It's one thing if the argument was that the daughter fabricated scenarios based on stuff she saw in the cartoons, or if the assumption was that he must be a molester in order to draw the cartoon, but I don't see how the First Amendment ties into either of those scenarios...?

I would imagine that the cartoons were somehow referenced during the trial, which isn't kosher?

But if he put shit that he did in the cartoons, how could they NOT be submitted as evidence?

because using an artist's ART against them in a trial about their real world actions is unconscionable and sets a dangerous precedent?

It's more like the fact that you can draw a million bank robber cartoons, but if you're on trial for robbing a bank they can't really use those as evidence unless there's a clear link.

On preview, that would be the clear link, right? Even so, that's kind of a slippery slope because by introducing a presumably fictional account, you're showing material that a false account could be based on.

check the references in the wiki dudes

reference is blocked by my company

there are a few reasons why the cartoons might be inadmissible under evidence law, but I don't think the first amendment is one of them.

So I guess the court would have a hard time making a conviction stick if Stephen King turned into a car and killed some people.

there are a few reasons why the cartoons might be inadmissible under evidence law, but I don't think the first amendment is one of them.

This is what I was thinking.

guys they sent him to jail for drawing a v unfunny cartoon and thats somehow against the constitution or w/e idk

I'm guessing the wiki article is not adequately or accurately explaining the overturning of the conviction. Just a hunch.

lag∞n otm

now can we go after that xkcd guy?

I would imagine that what they mean is

1) One or more of the counts of his conviction were based directly on the comic strip, i.e. he was convicted of drawing the comic strip

2) As for actually molestation of his daughter, the comic strip was inadmissible as evidence

It basically says it was overturned due to the DA's apparent prejudice and that 3000 of his cartoons were used in evidence. It also says his daughter was a "suicidal cocaine addict" but that's on slightly shakier ground

what the hell is going on? this doesn't seem like lols

Like I said upthread, I get it if the sole evidence that he molested his daughter was "he draws a cartoon about molesting women"; I'm operating under the possibly unreasonable assumption that the prosecution went to trial with more evidence than just that.

xp: thx to esteemed ILX lawyer Hurting2 for better explaining my bewliderment; my assumption was that no competent prosecuting attorney would bring up the cartoons without an actual link, like say matching an instance of the daughter's abuse to a scenario drawn in the cartoon (which should be easy to defend against anyway regardless of 1st Amendement concerns)

there are a lot of bad attorneys who might take the easy road to slam dunk a case against a larry flynt employee