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Pretty much assume anything referencing housing or schooling in the UK is probably the opposite of what it sounds like, except for the times when it's exactly as you assume.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

otoh "project" in the uk just means .. i dunno? outlandish fantasies that are doomed to failure?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

something 100 people are employed to not do anything in the name of?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

it's ok, project housing was mostly outlandish fantasies doomed to failure, too

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

i would say there's less chance of a UK poster not understanding a US reference considering the prevalence of american tv and pop culture in general

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

skip to 7 minutes in on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oEaYnm9Fk

face depalma (stevie), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

otoh "project" in the uk just means .. i dunno? outlandish fantasies that are doomed to failure?

^^ haha UK can't-do attitude!

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

i would say there's less chance of a UK poster not understanding a US reference considering the prevalence of american tv and pop culture in general

yeah also google

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

which only works in us contents

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

To be fair, "council estate" got shortened to "estate" and if you google "british estate" you sure don't get the right thing.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

let's not even start on "public schools"

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

To be fair, "council estate" got shortened to "estate" and if you google "british estate" you sure don't get the right thing.

... or do you?

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

I have always assumed that nonce was just a variant on ponce.

beachville, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

link includes google.co.uk, refuse to acknowledge

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

"ponce" originally meant a pimp, then came to mean "a gay or camp man", "nonce" comes from "nonsense" and originally referred to sexual offenders in general, is still often used that way but generally connotes "a chester" in 2012

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

"glassing a suspected nonce in an estate pub" gives altogether a much clearer result

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=glassing+a+suspected+nonce+in+an+estate+pub

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

"ponce" and "nonce" still used interchangeably but the former is losing currency in general i think

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

http://septicscompanion.com/

this is actually pretty accurate

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

there is a theory that nonce is a prison-derived acronym - not on normal communal exercise

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

"ponce" and "nonce" still used interchangeably but the former is losing currency in general i think

the de Leon family heaves a sigh of relief

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

xp that stuff always sounds like a retronym to me, altho "non-specific" rings truer

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

the first word particularly helpful??
http://septicscompanion.com/word.php?w=abseil

i ain't alf gonna abseil later with 'er indoors innit me old china.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it sounds a bit too clumsy to be right - the 'normal' is surely redundant xp

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

idk how useful this is when it seems ppl found it unclear even with the idiomatic terms explained

I dunno, they get to exercise communally with other inmates also not on normal etc.

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

I thought I was setting someone up for a tasteless "fountain of youth" joke, but I guess I was wrong.

beachville, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

nonce sense

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

the worst of the senses

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, what's a chester?

Which British television series currently available in the US do you recommend non-Brits watch to help us understand your jokes and foster stronger international relations?

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Downton Abbey?

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

chester -> molester I would think

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

I saw some porn in a hedgerow while out cycling at the weekend! Good times.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:13 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so THAT was the bustle Led Zep were singing about...

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:15 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

"in the USA, "estate" only connotes money and aristocracy."

i think to most people in the u.s. it connotes death! cuz that's when you have to settle someone's estate and all that. you know, estate planning and all that. but not just for rich people. one of my fave things to do is go to estate sales. but these are not usually rich people's houses either. it just means whatever someone owns here.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

but, obviously still connected with money...just in a different way.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

chester -> molester I would think

― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:48 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Specifically CHild molESTER.

beachville, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

rhyming slang is so confusing

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

I think it's an American term! I learned about it on Springer.

beachville, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_the_Molester

brownie, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

wow, i didn't know about the prison thing with that guy. kind of the worst cartoon ever though. maybe should have just gone to prison for being so unfunny.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

well 'his conviction was overturned on the grounds that his conviction violated the First Amendment because it was based, in part, on his comic strip.'

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

weird. wonder what the deal was?

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Am I parsing this correctly? His comic strip was evidence used to convict this dude of molesting his daughter and his conviction was overturned on First Amendment grounds?

So, if I manage to publish a bunch of cartoons about robbing banks, I can rob a bank?

I don't get that at all. It's one thing if the argument was that the daughter fabricated scenarios based on stuff she saw in the cartoons, or if the assumption was that he must be a molester in order to draw the cartoon, but I don't see how the First Amendment ties into either of those scenarios...?

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

I would imagine that the cartoons were somehow referenced during the trial, which isn't kosher?

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

But if he put shit that he did in the cartoons, how could they NOT be submitted as evidence?

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

because using an artist's ART against them in a trial about their real world actions is unconscionable and sets a dangerous precedent?

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

It's more like the fact that you can draw a million bank robber cartoons, but if you're on trial for robbing a bank they can't really use those as evidence unless there's a clear link.

On preview, that would be the clear link, right? Even so, that's kind of a slippery slope because by introducing a presumably fictional account, you're showing material that a false account could be based on.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

check the references in the wiki dudes

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link


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