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"estate" = council estate = what you guys call projects

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

but yeah confusingly "estate" also connotes some rich dudes country house and 10,000 acres

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

no britisher outside of a 19th century novel really thinks of "estate" in the latter sense tho

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

why does having a kid with longer hair mean that you're 'glassing' a 'nonce' in an 'estate pub?'

Shorter.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

why does having a kid w

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw i thought that whole thing was pretty funny

max, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

what nakh was hilariously suggesting was that if your child has hair less the 2"s long (as banned by tracer's friend's school) the suggestion is that said child is likely to be found in a low-class drinking establishment pulverising someone who has the temerity to be a child-molester/university graduate/softlad (delete as appropriate). that's the explanation though i doubt that'll make it funnier for you. it made me laff a tonne though, QED.

xp max gets it

face depalma (stevie), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

what nakh was hilariously suggesting was that if your child has hair less the 2"s long (as banned by tracer's friend's school) the suggestion is that said child is likely to be found in a low-class drinking establishment

Not the child, you.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

it's actually the parent that's doing the glassing to be completely accurate and remove the last trace of humour from the post

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

what Tuomas said

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

yo guys, this has been enlightening. do ilx american posters ever/often post sentences/jokes that are incomprehensible to britishers, or is this strictly a phenomenon going in the other direction?

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

not quite the same but
http://www.youtube.com/embed/eVFavnzXK9Q

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/eVFavnzXK9Q

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

what nakh was hilariously suggesting was that if your child has hair less the 2"s long (as banned by tracer's friend's school) the suggestion is that said child is likely to be found in a low-class drinking establishment

Not the child, you.

wtf that's not funny

face depalma (stevie), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

And the circle is complete

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

yo guys, this has been enlightening. do ilx american posters ever/often post sentences/jokes that are incomprehensible to britishers, or is this strictly a phenomenon going in the other direction?

I wondered that too.

In the USA, "estate" only connotes money and aristocracy. Though I did know what "council estate" meant (sound exactly the opposite of what it means IMO).

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

Also didn't realize short hair = rude boy (did I use that right?) or chav or wote'er.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty much assume anything referencing housing or schooling in the UK is probably the opposite of what it sounds like, except for the times when it's exactly as you assume.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

otoh "project" in the uk just means .. i dunno? outlandish fantasies that are doomed to failure?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

something 100 people are employed to not do anything in the name of?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

it's ok, project housing was mostly outlandish fantasies doomed to failure, too

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

i would say there's less chance of a UK poster not understanding a US reference considering the prevalence of american tv and pop culture in general

Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

skip to 7 minutes in on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oEaYnm9Fk

face depalma (stevie), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

otoh "project" in the uk just means .. i dunno? outlandish fantasies that are doomed to failure?

^^ haha UK can't-do attitude!

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

i would say there's less chance of a UK poster not understanding a US reference considering the prevalence of american tv and pop culture in general

yeah also google

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

which only works in us contents

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

To be fair, "council estate" got shortened to "estate" and if you google "british estate" you sure don't get the right thing.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

let's not even start on "public schools"

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

To be fair, "council estate" got shortened to "estate" and if you google "british estate" you sure don't get the right thing.

... or do you?

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

I have always assumed that nonce was just a variant on ponce.

beachville, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

link includes google.co.uk, refuse to acknowledge

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

"ponce" originally meant a pimp, then came to mean "a gay or camp man", "nonce" comes from "nonsense" and originally referred to sexual offenders in general, is still often used that way but generally connotes "a chester" in 2012

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

"glassing a suspected nonce in an estate pub" gives altogether a much clearer result

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=glassing+a+suspected+nonce+in+an+estate+pub

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

"ponce" and "nonce" still used interchangeably but the former is losing currency in general i think

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

http://septicscompanion.com/

this is actually pretty accurate

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

there is a theory that nonce is a prison-derived acronym - not on normal communal exercise

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

"ponce" and "nonce" still used interchangeably but the former is losing currency in general i think

the de Leon family heaves a sigh of relief

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

xp that stuff always sounds like a retronym to me, altho "non-specific" rings truer

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

the first word particularly helpful??
http://septicscompanion.com/word.php?w=abseil

i ain't alf gonna abseil later with 'er indoors innit me old china.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it sounds a bit too clumsy to be right - the 'normal' is surely redundant xp

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

idk how useful this is when it seems ppl found it unclear even with the idiomatic terms explained

I dunno, they get to exercise communally with other inmates also not on normal etc.

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

I thought I was setting someone up for a tasteless "fountain of youth" joke, but I guess I was wrong.

beachville, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

nonce sense

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

the worst of the senses

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, what's a chester?

Which British television series currently available in the US do you recommend non-Brits watch to help us understand your jokes and foster stronger international relations?

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Downton Abbey?

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link


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