2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

Well it's out there now, and maybe it's too late for the other candidates to beat up on Romney, but it significantly weakens his anti-Obamacare stance in the general. xpost

yeah its mystifying idgi either

Gingrich has won Georgia (shock)

Well it's out there now, and maybe it's too late for the other candidates to beat up on Romney, but it significantly weakens his anti-Obamacare stance in the general. xpost

― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:05 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i do wonder how obama's gonna play this. "i preferred you before you were running for president, when you agreed with me."

or is obama going to run from his own legislation?

Probably not since he's not a total idiot.

we are all fated in life to wander around disappointed, punctuated by brief moments of narcotic delusiveness.

― Mordy, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:38 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

merely the stars' tennis balls iirc

romney is p well known for flip flopping iirc

get your own abbrev bro

sry

pourmecoffee ‏ @pourmecoffee
Romney win in Virginia sends strong message that voters prefer candidates who get on the f---ing ballot.

one explanation often proffered by political scientists as to why obama and other presidents dont stay in super destructo campaign mode 24/7 is that its detrimental to policy goals, studies have shown that when the president uses the oft pined for bully pulpit it more likely than not will serve only to polarize the debate over whatever pending legislation were talking abt thereby reducing its chances of passing, the on again off again ass kicking which plays well to voters but not legislators is m/l a feature of our particular form of government and political climate

― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:59 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well 1) lol @ political "scientists" who have like 5 presidents worth of data with which to work but yeah i don't think bamma using the bully pulpit is some sort of panacea, its usefulness probably depends more on the popularity of the president than anything else if i had to guess, otoh i don't see how we could become any more polarized than we are now, or how it would even affect things one way or another, so i say go for it for our sakes/the lols

I think people looking it with 5 presidents worth of data is better than people looking at it with their own imaginary logic about how things work

works remarkably well for me

imaginary logic is the best kind of logic

I think people looking it with 5 presidents worth of data is better than people looking at it with their own imaginary logic about how things work

― iatee, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:31 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^

oh no doubt but my armchair logic relatively speaking is more sound than saying like maybe vaccines cause autism

Romney gets Virginia and Vermont

otoh i don't see how we could become any more polarized than we are now, or how it would even affect things one way or another, so i say go for it for our sakes/the lols

― bron paul (k3vin k.), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:29 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well one thing is a lot of legislation that actual becomes law is bipartisan and gets crafted behind closed doors and then rushed through congress before it can get politicized so in that formulation the president being all 'hey theres this wonderful bill in committee' is not really helpful, unless hes using reverse psychology and he really hates it

feel the mittmentum!

idk how we got to talking about this, anyway in this climate i don't think any pres can really influence major policy on most issues requiring him to work w/ congress, i was just sayin

also five presidents isnt just five data points, its thousands

obama should make santorum win some primaries using bully pulpit

Is there any indication that Romney's flip-floppery has done him any quantifiable harm? I mean, assuming his current platform completely synced up with my beliefs, I'd really have no basis for believing that would continue being the case for any appreciable amount of time based on his ever-shifting politics. Yet he still has supporters. So going after him on the basis of his self-contradictions sadly seems like a non-starter. I mean, everyone surely knows that about him now, right?

it's not a non-starter, he's had a really rough primary season and only won this because everyone around him would be considered a crazy streetperson in any other developed western country

ugggh mitt. now we get four more years (assuming obama wins) of angry baby-men whining about establishment RINOs

no it's good it means they will run crazy people and lose winnable elections again

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Latest exits show it getting really tight in Ohio. Just +1 for Mitt.

rick has life yet! maybe!

No he doesn't. It'll be spun as a referendum on Romney though.

man rick santorum is for real u dont even know

One of my guys won gold in badminton today. The only thing that could make me happier now is an outpouring of Super Tuesday love for Mitt.

I don't think it's possible for Santorum to get that magic delegate number no matter what.

no he is done 4, the question is whether he can keep being a pest

thats what they said abt another guy and his name was jesus christ

Is there any indication that Romney's flip-floppery has done him any quantifiable harm?

depends on what you mean by "quantifiable" but I know a lot of Republicans who don't trust Romney specifically because of his prior stances that he has "flip-flopped" on, e.g. Romneycare

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

yeah it's pretty awful but I don't think it's going anywhere

I remember during 2004 being like 'are you seriously gonna keep saying that word' but at this point who cares

Supposedly it's hurt him badly with independents...whatever they are.

injuring yr opponents integrity is prob the most effective attack in all politics

cause voters knowing politicians never do what they say theyre gonna vote based on what kind of guy they are, studies show

That's why Newt fell apart--his legendary integrity was badly dented.

obama's whole campaign should be him in bars getting beers w/ people w/ lots of attack ads about 'why doesn't mitt romney get beers with people'

That's why Newt fell apart--his legendary integrity was badly dented.

― clemenza, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:18 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well it didnt take much reminding is why romneys attacks were so effective

btw this guy left office as a national disgrace

oh right thaaat guy

obama's whole campaign should be him in bars getting beers w/ people w/ lots of attack ads about 'why doesn't mitt romney get beers with people'

― iatee, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this would culminate in a nationally televised beer pong match the week before the election

which actually might be an improvement over the republican debates

Interview with Palin on CNN as she votes. Every little thing she does is magic.

beer pong match might win over some fratty republicans

(unless he sucks)

yeah feel like that would be big for the wall st donations

I really really hate flip-flop as a political term btw

I totally agree when it's used indiscriminately for every instance of someone changing their position on an issue. I really don't have a problem with its use, however, to describe opportunistic douchebags with no core values shifting their position to suit whichever way the wind is blowing at the moment.