Are you implying I'm odd or not odd enough?
― Mr. Odd, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link
whichever makes me cooler than you I guess
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't turn 30 until next week
i never like to talk about music w/ppl that aren't really into it. i just say i like stuff like led zeppelin and regular music (which i do), why would you want to try to talk about some weird shit w/ppl that don't care?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/289964
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
what do you consider regular music?
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
jesus Surmounter you're almost twice the age I always assumed you were when reading your posts.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
anyway, there's a lot of good popular music, you could go your whole life listening to just popular music and not get bored there's so much of it. but for those of us who aren't loathe to "pay too much or attention try too hard" it can be pretty rewarding to dig a little deeper.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link
sure. and i do dig deeper -- often. i just don't like the rejection of popular music based on its popularity.
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link
(and vice versa)
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
It makes sense to hunt out obscure things AS POPULAR THINGS ARE IN YOUR FUCKING FACE all the time and seeking them out when they're already there is a bit lame. You can't reject them unless you're a total recluse.
It's nice to hear some really truly awful shit once in a while too.
― Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
there's something about clinging to other people's opinions on music that turns me off.
yr not really following yr own admonition here surmounter - who cares why other people listen to any given kind of music
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Mister Craig, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:16 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
^^ going in "truth bombs" thread
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't know that seeking out popular music is lame...
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
anyway M@tt OTM
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
well, i think there's a big difference between digging deeper for lesser-known music, and using this as some claim to superiority, which is the part i loathe.
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Surmounter, Friday, April 11, 2008 8:09 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
like i dunno, regular music that ppl like....like if someone likes classic rock i'd rather just talk about tom petty or aerosmith than be all like DUDE THE SECOND SIR LORD BALTIMORE RECORD IS CREWSH!! DO YOU LIKE DUST??!? or if they like indie music we could talk about like the shins or something instead of whatever wierd shit.
or better yet talk about sports.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Aren't YOU using your viewpoint as a "some claim to superiority"?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:22 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
How much of that is actually the case though?
Is it just hipsters generally you dislike?
― Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Matt OTM; talking about sports is always better.
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
not really catsup, i think liking something obscure is just as valid as liking something incredibly popular.
yeah i totally agree matt, i veer away from conversations like that too
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't know if i want to get into a conversation about hipsters just yet
^^^on the real
but I hate sports!
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link
all sports?? no way
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
It's weird too. In my old town I was an obscurantist, where I live now I'm a pop kid. I put some Deerhoof on a mixtape for a friends's party and he wouldn't put it on out of fear. That was depressing.
― Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link
i really haven't met anyone with truly "obscure" taste who copped attitude because most of the time they were just excited to tell you about cool music you might not have heard before.
― omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
the people who the most attitude are the ones who think that if it isn't well known or they haven't heard it before, there must be a reason for that and that reason must be is the music is lame.
― omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
honestly there is not a single pro sport that I give a single shit about. playing sports is one thing, watching other highly paid adults to do it = me not caring.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I find that while some people who like obscure stuff or have absurd amounts of knowledge often hold it over people, sometimes they are just stating their interests plainly with no subtext and it's the insecurities of the person who doesn't know as much that caused said person to perceive some sort of arrogance. Not always, but sometimes.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
DICHOTOMY
People with specialist subculture knowledge that I find unpleasant and grating: bikes store employee types / hardcore cyclists
People with specialist subculture knowledge that I find exciting and friendly: music nerd types
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
dan selzer otm
do you guys think we can beat the "varied taste" post count
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link
yes otm xpost
― omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
nah, Surmounter is still too early in his transformation into The Lex to inspire a true clusterfuck thread.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
OTM dan
It's always about insecurities, except when it's one obscure music guy giving tips to another obscure music guy, then it's possible one of them is being obnoxious.
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
anyone want to throw in a "people who listen to vinyl are just posers that pretend that they prefer it" opinion to ratchet up the post score?
― John Justen, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
-- omar little, Friday, April 11, 2008 8:34 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link i really don't know about this
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Alex in Baltimore, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:18 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
spoken like a true ebony eyez fan
― and what, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't loathe people who like Janet Jackson, but I loathe people who loathe people who loathe Janet Jackson.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
People who like obscure music are dumb and that's why I only listen to Steely Dan and The Eagles.
― ian, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
"Liking" music is so passé anyways. It's all about the indifference now.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link
-- ian, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Well I only listen to ABBA!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Nothing but Beatles for me.
Of course, I never have fewer than 4 albums playing simultaneously in the same room. I'm just THAT into them.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
-- dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:35 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
OTM
― Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
yes that can definitely be true
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Someone accused me of being a snob for saying that I liked a band's first album best.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
?? that's just random. what album?
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Obscureness is no longer a property inherent to the music itself, dudes. No, it's about how you listen to it. Anything can be obscure if you listen with an appropriately obscure attitude.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
My favorite Obscure record was the first, Gavin Bryar's The Sinking of the Titanic.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link
-- libcrypt, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:58 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
QFT; http://advancedtheory.blogspot.com/
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Weren't DD&TAH once produced by Bruce Dunslap, the same guy who produced the legendary Dreamboat Gorilla LP "Long Way To The Top" from 1980?
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link
ILX BREATHALYZER FAILURE BEEP BEEP YR COMPUTER WILL BE LOCKING UP IN 5 SECONDS
― libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, he was at the controls on their eponymous EP in '87. It's out of print but I have a vinyl copy from the first run. "Reese's Peanut Butter Cups" is such a classic tune. Let's hold hands and listen to it.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Still waiting to see the reunion of Steve G01dberg and the Lesser Assholes.
― libcrypt, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
i have more respect for people who like good popular music than people who like bullshit obscure music. for example, i'd prefer someone's favorite artists to be the Beatles, Bob Marley, Michael Jackson, and Jay-Z than say any number of nonsense indie bands.
― pipecock, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i have more respect for people who like good popular music than people who like bullshit obscure music.
challenging opinions
― electricsound, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link
lol
― wilter, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:55 (sixteen years ago) link
"Reese's Peanut Butter Cups" rules. Have you got the 12" extended remix?
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 14 April 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link
this thread was great for about the first 50 posts but then it got boring
― strgn, Monday, 14 April 2008 04:20 (sixteen years ago) link
matt h. and surmounter otm in those first 50
thank you, good night
xpost "m the g is an idiot" should quickly replace it.
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is one of my favorite bands, not because they are obscure, but because they are AWESOME.
most accurate statement on ilx ever.
-- m the g, Sunday, 13 April 2008 21:27 (Yesterday)
-- brightscreamer, Monday, 14 April 2008 01:42 (11 h
ka-pow! you wound me! care to elaborate, or is this just a half-arsed zing fling?
― m the g, Monday, 14 April 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link
never mind. my cack-handed copying and pasting kind of proved your point for you.
― m the g, Monday, 14 April 2008 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link
"was there a botoh dancer at the show you're thinking of? They did a tour a few years ago that was 100% improvised with a dude in a cage."
Nobody in a cage that I remember, but it's been a couple of years and I am reasonably sure that I was drunk. About the only mental image I can pull is a black woman playing keyboards.
By now I kind of hope that it was a prank pulled by the band, but at the time I remember being fairly annoyed. "I AM A MEMBER OF THE LOCAL PRESS! YOU CANNOT DO THIS TO ME!"
I do remember that they'd sent me a promo before the show, and that the promo was pretty good. I think I'll go see if I can find them again.
― I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Also Goldberg's pretty much right, aside from the (previously noted) ascribing it as a current phenomenon. But it's kind of weird for me to be around people like that who are WAY into such a tiny slice of music. Like, you know every word on the Arcade Fire album and want to talk about hidden meanings? But you can't talk about, I dunno, Talking Heads, and you get freaked out by the Cambodia Rocks albums? That just seems weird to me, though I understand that I've got a pretty terrible sample set for what's normal regarding music listening.
― I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
that is a different sleepytime gorilla museum (?!) then, because they have no keyboard player, and the only woman in the band is Carla Kihlsted, who plays violin.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
ctrl-f "challenging"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link