Best Herbie Hancock (As Leader) Album Poll of 1960s/70s/80s era.

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So many great albums here, get those votes in!

So Tuomas, is Headhunters going to get hardly any votes as everyone wants to avoid the 'canon' album?

Another predictable vote for <i>Sextant</i>.

So Tuomas, is Headhunters going to get hardly any votes as everyone wants to avoid the 'canon' album?

Well, it won the previous poll...

Has anyone read the book about Head Hunters (this is the correct spelling, I think, though confusingly enough the band is called Headhunters without the space)? I though it was okay, but maybe a bit too over-reaching and academic. I liked the book about A Love Supreme (which was in the same series) more.

Another predictable vote for <i>Sextant</i>

me too

yesterday I listened to Speak Like A Child and if I hadn't already voted for Maiden Voyage...

I just hope there's a reasonable amount of votes.

Get voting!

Anyone fans of the 70's VSOP acoustic stuff he did inbetween the electronic albums? I have never checked that stuff out. Worth it?

I remember some essay or review calling it "arena jazz", which seems pretty accurate. I only heard one album but it sounded like 60s Miles but less crazy and heavier (for Tony Williams' part, anyway).

Worth checking out?

I saw Herbie play with his acoustic quartet in Edinburgh in 2005 I think it was.

it's been so long, i can't really say. with that lineup, it can't be <i>bad</I>...can it?

True, I will try find it cheap somewhere.

Another predictable vote for <i>Sextant</i>

me too

And again. Is Sextant the new Head Hunters?

If it wins, it deserves it. Sextant is among my top 5 records ever, it's just amazing.

It's kinda sad that it was practically the last Mwandishi recording (if you don't count those Eddie Henderson LPs which, like I mentioned upthread, are good but not quite as good as Sextant). Who knows what might've happened if that band would've sticked together?

Btw, Mwandishi fans might want to check the duo record Patrick Gleeson and Bennie Maupin released some years back, Driving While Black. It's quite different from the seventies stuff (there's no other players on it, so everything besides Maupin's reeds is electronic), but interesting nevetheless.

Sextant is a wonderful album and if it or Head Hunters wins it , it will deserve it.

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So Head Hunters won the last one and only got 3 votes this time. Typical ILM lol. Glad other albums got so many votes though. Over 50 votes in total isn't bad either.

I wonder how a Miles Davis vs Herbie Hancock 1970-1975 poll would do.

Wow, I'm ashamed I had never checked out Sextant until now. This shit is sick.

It's awesome stuff.

I wonder how a Miles Davis vs Herbie Hancock 1970-1975 poll would do.

Shall I do that?

I like picturing Herbie messing around in a huge room full of synthesizers and making his amused Herbie faces.

Have you seen the back cover of Sunlight?

Btw, is it true that Miles was angry for Herbie for him managing to do the fusion thing Miles had already started, only with more commercial success than Miles ever had?

i'm sure miles was slightly annoyed about that. what's really interesting is that Miles actually *opened* for Herbie on several occasions in the mid 70s (post Head Hunters I presume) -- an arrangement that must've been awkward for all parties involved.

Wayne Shorter probably had equal if not bigger commercial success with Weather Report, I'd imagine.

I got a new (old) turntable and was able to listen to Thrust last night, it is awesome. The Palm Grease break must have been sampled in a ton of rap tunes, right?

I thought, this being ILM, "Mwandishi" might have won this

I love Actual Proof. Mike Clark is tops on that one.

I thought that The Blood Donor might have won.

So Marcello is back,eh?

John Coltrane (as Leader) Albums Poll

I thought, this being ILM, "Mwandishi" might have won this

Sextant has always been the ILM pick though I think.

Wayne Shorter probably had equal if not bigger commercial success with Weather Report, I'd imagine.

Weather Report never had anything close to the commercial success of "Rockit", or even "You Bet Your Love".

As far as album sales went, both were surpassed by Mezzoforte and Spyro Gyra. For a short while at least.

I think Head Hunters was the best selling jazz album ever for quite some while, until Kind of Blue finally passed it. I'm not sure if this happened during Miles's lifetime though.

I never get fed up with either of those albums actually. Listened to head Hunters and the Mwandishi era cds last night.

Now it's time for Man-Child.

Tuomas , I'm sure I read somewhere that Head Hunters was still the biggest seller.

According to the RIAA site, nowadays Kind of Blue is triple platinum, whereas Head Hunters is only single platinum. That's only US sales tough, I'm not sure if the rest of the world would compensate. I think I read somewhere that Kind of Blue passed Head Hunters in sales as late as 1994 though. Maybe it was around that time that it had become cemented as the jazz album everyone should own? Or was it so in the eighties already?

About the Herbie/Miles competition in the seventies: to me at least it seems obvious that, after the Mwandishi era, Herbie's approach to fusion was notably more populist (which doesn't necessarily mean worse) than Miles's, so could his bigger success really have been that big a surprise to Miles? Or maybe that was the exact reason Miles was angry to Herbie, that he had sold out? On the other hand, I remember reading in some Miles biography (maybe his autobiography?) that he really expected On the Corner to be hip and popular, which, in light of the actual music, seems way too optimistic.

I wonder if Head Hunters sells nowadays. It's never the token jazz album in the best album ever lists in magazines like A Kind Of Blue Is

I thought Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" was the bestselling jazz album ever.

I'm fairly sure Headhunters was a much bigger seller than Time Out, but the issue is whether it gets defined as jazz or not. Among the "traditional jazz" albums I think it's either KOB or Time Out.

although I didn't see the tuomas post saying that KOB was bigger than Headhunters. But I wouldn't be surprised if KOB has surpassed Time Out by now with all the attention it gets as "greatest jazz album of all time," etc.

The line up on that record is insane.

features ron carter and jaco lol

Sheila E!

for me, "sound system" is the one. i went to it looking for breakdance sounds in 1984 and it split my tiny brain wide open. "metal beat" still sounds absolutely mentalist

Mr. Hands is phenomenal

Sextant was my introduction and remains my favorite, but I dig all the '70s albums that placed well in the poll.

Herbie is making his now (apparently) annual trip to the Kennedy Center this June. Of course I will be there.

Tempted to do a "best of the rest" poll for the ones that got zero votes. Of the ones I know, I'd probably pick either Inventions and Dimensions, Fat Albert Rotunda, or Flood.

I got heavily into Eddie Henderson's mid-70s solo albums last year, which are a fine companion to the Mwandishi stuff - same band even!

I wrote a piece about VSOP last year.

Flood is an insane set that goes OFF!!!!! So good

Inventions and Dimensions

severely underrated album - really interesting lineup

Tempted to do a "best of the rest" poll for the ones that got zero votes. Of the ones I know, I'd probably pick either Inventions and Dimensions, Fat Albert Rotunda, or Flood.

I've been tempted to do a poll of his best "sell out" tracks (intended in a positive way; I adore his disco/dance/funk/break stuff)

the disco records are all soooo dope. i think i love lite me up the most

Those Eddie Henderson records are dope. I'll stan for *Realization* all day long. More Dr Patrick all the time.

“mr. hands” is cool. aside from the amazing cover art works well with london-style “jazz dance” records (ie the uptempo latin inflected stuff with trad instruments)

i lean heavily on “spiraling prism” and “calypso” when i play it out

sorry to jump around here+i'm positive someone has brought it up before now BUT-

if you want even more super hot 70s headhunters/hancock/miles adjacent action, bennie maupin's slow traffic to the right from 1977 is about as good as they get. funky, spacey, mellow, but mad.

probably old news, putting here for posterity mostly. highly recommended either way.

I've been listening to that Maupin record recently, since his debut is maybe my favourite ECM record. I like it better than the funk-era Hancock I've heard, and it walks an interesting line between being tasteful and gently exploratory, and also trying to sell some records in the context of late 70s fusion.