Best Miles Davis Album 1949-1974

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Another for In a Silent Way

Joe, Thursday, 6 December 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Kind of Blue is really unique sounding. At this point I have probably listened to it, In A Silent Way and Bitches Brew the most. Other than He Loved Him Madly, the fusion stuff with Michael Henderson as bassist is one big beautiful tune, so which one can you vote for? I like them all.

I'm voting for All Blues and So What.

The Davis record I just got a few years ago that I have been burning up and I think is killer is It's About that Time: Live at the Fillmore East. Jack DeJohnette's drumming on that record is insane and it is great to hear them work that Bitches Brew material.

earlnash, Thursday, 6 December 2007 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Milestones. Best hard bop record ever made.

There are others I probably like about as much, but that was the one I first connected with and it remains one of my favorite straight jazz albums ever. I guess I was an odd kid, but I connected way more in high school with Milestones and Monk's Music and My Favorite Things than I did with, well, really any other music, and that was before I even tried out for high school jazz band on guitar. I came to like the electric stuff later, toward the end of college.

As for what Shakey said - maybe kids should just learn to swing because it's awesome. It's true that acoustic jazz is not likely to have another heyday, but I think it will continue to thrive in its small way. I have noticed that most ILM types seem to relate way more to free jazz and fusion than to straight-ahead, maybe because they tend to come out of rock and punk backgrounds. I've always found it weird that I can find music so exciting that other people seem to find blah, but I guess that can be said about anyone's taste.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 December 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

If only non jazz acts could have as many top quality albums in their discography as the jazz cats.
Pisses me off when there's either no jazz albums or just a token album in best album of all time lists.

There are considerably more Miles Davis and John Coltrane albums in those lists than albums by Bach, Mozart or Beethoven.
Oh, but I forgot they don't count because they didn't have rhythm....

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 December 2007 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe because they didn't have albums...

Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 December 2007 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't prevent "The Four Seasons" from popping up high in Guardian's "Best albums of the millennium" list. Credited to Vivaldi.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 December 2007 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Mozart was more of a singles band anyway.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 December 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

What's the reason for stoppin' at '74, and leavin' off Aghartha and Pangea? Both those albums are nuts...

Chelvis, Thursday, 6 December 2007 01:52 (sixteen years ago) link

voted porgy & bess, could have gone w/ KoB or miles smiles and find the fusion stuff in gen. overrated tho love 'jack johnson'

deej, Thursday, 6 December 2007 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link

This was a sorta fun thread:

Did Miles Davis release any bad albums before 1975?

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 6 December 2007 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

What's the reason for stoppin' at '74, and leavin' off Aghartha and Pangea? Both those albums are nuts...

I love those records, but i went by Wikipedia and they were listed under live albums and I never noticed until i had started the poll. So this became a studio albums poll by default.
I already explained this.
By all means start a miles davis best live album poll. Here's a list of them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis_discography#Live_recordings

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

workin'

omar little, Thursday, 6 December 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd normally vote for In a Silent Way or Get Up With It, but I heard Nefertiti most recently, so...

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 December 2007 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

a 20 way tie for the winner in this poll then?

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Went with Relaxin', but Silent Way was a close second.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 6 December 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

What's the reason for stoppin' at '74, and leavin' off Aghartha and Pangea? Both those albums are nuts...

Personally I might have wound up voting for "Tutu", which was an excellent album.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 December 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

christ this is tough!!! right now i'm torn between Silent Way and Get Up With It, and those two seem to be the ones i've tended to play the most recently. but Kind of Blue really is that good, it's completely perfect. six months ago I would have voted Jack Johnson.

miles is like an ongoing project for me, music i continually go back to and try to wrap my head around it. right now it's all about electric miles for me, but someday i'd like to spend a lot of time on the 60s quintet to try to grasp what's going on there.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 6 December 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Winner will most likely be Silent Way, Bitches Brew or KOB.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 December 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Johnson

Bill Magill, Thursday, 6 December 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Volume One of the Blue Note records. "Yesterdays" completely knocks me out every single time.

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 6 December 2007 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder how the pre Kind Of Blue albums will fare in this poll.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

This is impossible. It's like you're telling me to pick between essentially like 6 different artists.

filthy dylan, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sure the 60s quintet stuff will get overlooked in general on this poll but yeah Mark it is definitely worth digging into - really strange compositionally and melodically, very unique.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

This is impossible. It's like you're telling me to pick between essentially like 6 different artists.
That's the challenge!

Jazzbo, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

KoB will not get as many votes as it 'should' in that ppl are unwilling to vote for it because its so 'well duh'

deej, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you might be right, but then lurkers don't think like that. Plus the likes of Bitches Brew and now even Jack Johnson has had loads of recent critical acclaim so they could do just as well from the lurker vote too.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

between JJ and in a silent way for me, and i just cant decide right now!

69, Thursday, 6 December 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

60s quintet basically remapped how modern acoustic jazz is played, for one thing!

Jordan, Thursday, 6 December 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

True, but the live records of that band are more exciting documents of that remapping than the studio records (which always struck me as relatively muted). It'll be interesting to see how the various groups fare in the live albums poll.

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 6 December 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah ok, I'll do the live albums poll when this ones done.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 6 December 2007 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i voted for Bags' Groove, mainly just because I've been listening to that one the most lately. everybody shines on the title track. Could've easily voted for a dozen others though. Miles Davis! What a guy!

tylerw, Thursday, 6 December 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

True, but the live records of that band are more exciting documents of that remapping than the studio records (which always struck me as relatively muted).

Fuck yes. Plugged Nickel sessions smoke.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 6 December 2007 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link

yes

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 8 December 2007 10:32 (sixteen years ago) link

COOKIN W/THE MILES DAVIS QUINTET

(really a tie between cookin/workin/steamin/relaxin; like one album in four installments)

m coleman, Saturday, 8 December 2007 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link

On The Corner ... because - years after having been floored by it for the first time - it still floors me. It's almost a physical entity, that record. Nothing in Miles' or anyone else's discography
sounds remotely like it.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Porgy & Bess. I used to play this at my office and ended up discussing with co-workers/directing them to Amazon. Also, I love the Gil Evans stuff anyway.

the higgs, Saturday, 8 December 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

True, but the live records of that band are more exciting documents of that remapping than the studio records (which always struck me as relatively muted).

i dont agree with this at all. studio records largely were live recordings from this era and i would contend the difference is negligible, except the quality of the sound recording is worse.

deej, Saturday, 8 December 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i went with bitches brew, it is one of the albums i want to listen to the most frequently. in a silent way would have been second. i think both are far better than kind of blue.

pipecock, Monday, 10 December 2007 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i dont agree with this at all. studio records largely were live recordings from this era and i would contend the difference is negligible, except the quality of the sound recording is worse.

I'm not sure what you mean...the studio recordings of the mid-60s quintet were recorded...um...in a studio. They were most likely recorded "live," that is, without overdubs or too much editing. But there was no audience present, other than the studio staff. Their live repertoire rarely incorporated any of their studio compositions (there's a handful of exceptions, like "Footprints").

I don't dislike the studio records at all, but what I love about the live records -- especially the Plugged Nickel box -- is the precariousness of it all, the heightened sense of risk-taking. Tempos were taken faster than in the studio, solos were investigated more thoroughly, and the interaction was more probing.

Sara Sara Sara, Monday, 10 December 2007 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link

voted for Filles de Kilimanjaro because i listen to it the most, but it was really a toss up between In a Silent Way, Get Up With It, Ascenseur pour l'Échafaud, Porgy and Bess, On the Corner, and probably a few others.... Hell, it would be hard for me even to pick the ten best.

Professor Respect, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Filles de Kilimanjaro deserves more love anyways...

Professor Respect, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link

A lot of these are going to get underrepped, but I I've had too many odysseys with In A Silent Way not to vote for it. Tho if we were comparing boxsets I'd probably give the nod to BB.

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

it may be an obvious choice, but it should be said that Kind of Blue IS in fact an amazing album, no matter how much it's been hyped as such. and it is pretty unique in Miles discography -- something about the sound is pretty magical.

tylerw, Monday, 10 December 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Get Up With It for the win.

A lot of the electric albums are fairly interchangeable in quality, given the overlapping in sessions and the extensive editing involved, its difficult to pinpoint one in particular that is somehow a more cohesive or engaging album (particularly when the music itself is not interested all that much in being cohesive).

I've become cozy enough with electric Miles to make quite legible distinctions between releases. No doubt Phil Freeman (and others) could make even finer distinctions. They may not be cohesive (keyword: may) but they've engaged me for years.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 10 December 2007 04:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Plugged Nickel is too fast. That shit is nuts.

Jordan, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Bitches, but this is like getting a menu with all my favorite dishes and having someone tell me to pick one.

talrose, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Bitches ain't shit.

The Reverend, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:37 (sixteen years ago) link

(Actually, it's great. I just wanted to say that. I voted for Sketches.)

The Reverend, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I could have just as easily gone with Silent or Corner, but OPO.

The Reverend, Monday, 10 December 2007 05:39 (sixteen years ago) link

where is the VOTE FOR MILES option

haitch, Monday, 10 December 2007 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I wish I could have afforded the OTC box set

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Saturday, 19 October 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

porgy and bess is incredible

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 October 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link

Honestly I don't even feel like "best Miles Davis album" is a question particularly flattering to a lot of his works. I'm not just talking about the not-album Birth of the Cool, but Miles put a lot of his best work on albums that aren't coherent or cohesive. I fucking love the song "Circle in the Round" and have since I first heard it through the Either/Orchestra but while most of the other people who have heard it love it, how many of us are there?

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 00:41 (four years ago) link

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link

'Ware the OTC box, Oor Neehy! At least to my ears, it starts intriguingly and soon gets less and less related by anything but the calendar: that's how quickly his music was changing, and you would be better off with the original releases (I always thought Live-Evil was way better than BB). Also beware of the early Columbia CDs, maybe especially initial Miles Ahead and Kind of Blue---Gary Giddens used to get so pissed off!
Worthy comps:Big Fun, Cirle In The Round, and my fave rave,The Complete Jack Johnson Sessions
I dig most Miles in all eras, and don't sleep on Sketches of Spain either.

dow, Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:12 (four years ago) link

Oor Neechy, that is, sorry

dow, Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link

heh i started this thread dow. I have the complete columbia albums CDs box set, a few box sets and CDs on prestige. I have loads of miles.

the OTC boxgoes for silly money now I think so way out of my price range

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

I like Live-Evil but I never heard it until after the Cellar Door box so the album is a bit spoiled for me.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link

I'm one of those who found On the Corner interesting, but it only really clicked for me after hearing the full, un-Ted-Maceroed edits on the box set. Frankly I think they work far better as musical constructions there. On the Corner is a collage album, and it's a tremendous curiosity, but the real meat of the music, in terms of fully developed pieces with beginnings, middles and ends is there on Disc 1 of the On the Corner Sessions.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 20 October 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

Live-Evil is one of the 1st CDs I bought in the mid 90s. £1.99 from Missing Records in Glasgow in one of their sales

Vote (with a bullet) (Oor Neechy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

all polls are bad especially polls that fail to include dark magus

mark s, Sunday, 20 October 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

Dark Magus is my favorite of the mid 70s live double slabs

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

to point out such a glaring omission might just be the spark in the powder barrel to kick off another bad poll... and so it goes on!

calzino, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

I love Agharta and Dark Magus.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

i will not rest until all the polls on ilm are deleted for omitting dark magus

mark s, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

Its great to see mark being so pro-poll

Vote (with a bullet) (Oor Neechy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

I forget that is D Liebman on sax on Dark Magus. He's still doing lots of fine music on a regular basis.

calzino, Sunday, 20 October 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

I also forget what a cool album Agharta was as well.

calzino, Sunday, 20 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link


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