jonathan richman: is this guy a class fucking act or what?

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That was great, jess!

(revive!)

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:06 (twenty years ago) link

wow what a cool thread!

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

actually, I have seen Jonathon pull out a few of the old Modern Lovers tunes from time to time. Pablo Picasso, even, complete with a long and funny story about how he wrote the song. Always a fun show, but I wish he would not do "the Rose".

pauls00, Monday, 17 November 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Im a big fan of Jonny. His sense of humor never gets in the way, and his tone is always fun.

In fact, his sheer un-rock n' roll attitude is what makes him so punk rawk.

Plus, he can write a fuckin mean song.

David Allen, Monday, 17 November 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

I'm a sucker for the trebly guitar shtuff

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

anyone else seen the new DVD of a recent S.F. show? officially released and everything, complete w/video interview about the Modern Lovers and his history generally. pretty nice, though he's really a weird guy. (shockah!)

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:38 (twenty years ago) link

I'm kinda surprised there aren't more (any?) actual Modern Lovers Tribute Bands out there. You could get a crowd moving if you had a guitar-keys-bass-drum combo doing the original stuff.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

the entire city of Olympia to thread

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

The Modern Lovers had a rhythm section

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

the entire city of Olympia doesn't

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

Apparently, he is the interview subject from hell.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:45 (twenty years ago) link

no, he kept the Modern Lovers name LONG after he stopped rocking.

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

cf. Modern Lovers 88

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:47 (twenty years ago) link

well yeah. that's why I used words like "the original stuff" and "guitar-keys-bass-drums."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:49 (twenty years ago) link

I tried to go to the North 6 show all 3 nights in a row when he came last month. But real life called and I only made one. I love it when people see jojo perform live for the 1st time. A mixture of glee, confusion and horror. And you know, he sings in foreign languages. I should buy him some knee pads, so when he dances he doesn't get banged up. He once yelled at a guy cuz the guy put his drink on the stage. I respect this.

Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

memories relating to this thread just made me cry. bastards.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

When I saw him the crowd consisted of the "indie" kids, the old people, and a bunch of members from the local improv comedy group.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

ive seen him play many 'modern lovers' songs. maybe this is just a boston thing. the man is a total trip*

kephm, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

Anthony in retroactive covering his ass shockah! honestly, you didn't indicate any particular era of Modern Lovers when you refuted my Oly point.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

This is the WORST thing about living way out in the boondocks -- i can't see squat for live shows... glad you got to.

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

the first few times i saw him (going back about 10yrs ago), he didn't play any old modern lovers stuff. an audience member kept yelling "i'm straight," and to which jonathan eventually replied, "that's not my problem."
i've seen him five more times since then, and he's played "hospital," "pablo picasso," "she cracked," "girlfriend," and "roadrunner."
definitely one of my all-time favorite performers. i wish i had the picture of dazed, 20yr old lauren standing with him (arm around me for the camera) to scan in.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

he lives about 40 miles from here, whenever he's recording, he'll book a club for a week and he and tommy just have a go.

most memorable, about 6 years ago (a little before "there's something about mary) he did 2 back to back 2 hour sets with a 10 minute break. yes, 4 hours of music. like jess alludes upthread, he held the audience in his hand the entire performance. he is a classic charmer: dashing, bravado, swagger, he makes the boys and girls swoon alike.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:45 (twenty years ago) link

Jonathan Richman still plays "She Cracked"!?!! Me happy.

(and Matos, I wasn't aware of the man ever using the guitar-keys-bass-drums line-up since the Jerry Harrison years, so I thought it would be clear)

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

(I was teasing, Anthony, but your wording wasn't as specific as it could have been. no harm done, obv.)

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

also, the DVD has "Pablo Picasso" and "Girlfriend" on it

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

Where can I get the Dvd. He seems to have no website.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 08:48 (twenty years ago) link

"Musicians for Matt" - Matt Gonzalez for San Francisco Mayor Benefit

Jonathan Richman
American Music Club
Chuck Prophet & Stephanie Finch
Noe Venable

Great American Music Hall, SF, Nov. 30

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

eight months pass...
no, he kept the Modern Lovers name LONG after he stopped rocking.
-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...) (webmail), November 17th, 2003 3:46 PM. (M Matos) (link)


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cf. Modern Lovers 88
-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...) (webmail), November 17th, 2003 3:47 PM. (M Matos) (link)


huh? modern lovers 88 rocks!

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

whangada-danga-danga-whangada-dangy-dingy

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Jonathan Richman totally just asked me for a ride home

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Revive -- Everyone can stand a little more Jonathan in their lives!

With great hesistation, i've been laboring to assemble a complete vinyl set of his albums for the last 12 years - which will likely approach completion about the same time somebody lays out a proper reissue series or boxset.

christoff, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i could stand some more jess in my life! i want to hear him talk about "cuddlecore".

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

thanks for reminding me, Jonathan is playing here next week and I need to buy a ticket.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks for the revive, christoff. Never seen this thread before. Nice to read something so well-written, enthusiastic and smart 1st thing in the morning (helps that I agree w/ everything he says). Kinda puts a shine on the day.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I slept in the office in his house last year.

Davey D, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

My favorite Jonathan story: I saw him in Minneapolis at 7th Street Entry (TINY club) where his support act was a local, female-led band called Beangirl. Jonathan seemed to really like them, he was out on the dance floor watching and applauding.

Shortly thereafter I travelled to Seattle, and Jonathan was playing there at the Bumbershoot festival. I found a big piece of cardboard and a marker, lettered BEANGIRL on it, and held it up from many rows back. He interrupted one of his monologues to ask, "Are you from Minneapolis? Wow! Beangirl is a really cool band... but I don't wanna talk about that right now... 1234" and into Roadrunner.

Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

one of the first songs he played was "springtime in new york" (at least i assumed that's what it was called), and i can't really described the mood it called up, comparable with so very few things in the vast morass of art about nyc, maybe the gentlest work of paul auster (cf. moon palace) or the experience of living in the city itself (which, like that ridiculous song suggests, everyone should do once before they become hardened.) it's a love song to a place which so effortlessly trumps any of the post-9/11 blather (neil young, stick your head up your own arse in abject shame, please.) it made me happy to be alive, which few things do these days.

i'm sure i've said this elsewhere on ILM, but "springtime in new york" was the first song i saw ANYONE play live after 9/11 in new york. it was at the knitting factory, which isn't that far from ground zero. the city was still very much in shock. there was still dust downtown. the stage power went out just before jonathan started playing. so in front of a packed knitting factory, which is not too small, and which includes a balcony, he proceeded to play "springtime in new york" with an acoustic guitar and no microphone. singing with that trademark purity and innocence about lovers in the east village and then that throwaway line about how "demolishing a building brings a smell of 1890 through the breeze" (sung that night AS a throwaway line, with no attempt to wink or raise an eyebrow or in any way acknowlege out loud what had just happened) he completely totally utterly melted the joint. one of my favorite concert experiences ever.

(also, i'm pretty sure i met matos at that show, though we don't actually know each other. he was standing next to me on the balcony with a notebook in his hand and i asked who he was and we chatted for probably a minute and that was that.)

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

this man is a giant of American music

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

"Jonathan and Tommy Larkins have just completed a brand new album, Because Her Beauty is Raw and Wild. The album will be in stores in March!!! Jonathan will of course return to the road in support of the new album."

-from vaporrecords.com

m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

played the 5 Spot in Nashville last nite, he was good, sort of an (even more) minimalist rockin' João Gilberto at times, did "Pablo Picasso" using a funny voice.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 28 February 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

a couple weeks back i was driving down 18th Street in San Francisco one afternoon and I saw Jonathan just casually strolling down the street with a Spanish guitar in hand. wish i coulda followed him to see where he ended up.

ken taylrr, Thursday, 28 February 2008 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm bummed he's not coming to philly on this tour. saw him for the first time last year. excellent set!

htshell, Friday, 29 February 2008 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Quick question.. he's in town Saturday, should I go see him for $10?
I don't know much about him but will he make me smile like the "I'm a little dinosaur" song or are his other songs not as entertaining?

CaptainLorax, Friday, 29 February 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

he is totally worth seeing for $10, totally one of my favorite live performers even though I barely know any of his non-Modern Lovers recorded output.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 29 February 2008 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link

awesome

CaptainLorax, Friday, 29 February 2008 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Really always worth seeing, even if (like me) you are not familiar with the vast disorganized reaches that are his catalogue.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 29 February 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

HE was great at Primavera Sound last year, but thenI would say that because like most people on this thread, I do thnk he's a clas fucing act.

the next grozart, Friday, 29 February 2008 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

"Because Her Beauty Is Raw & Wild" is, as expected, still top quality stuff. This guy just doesn't let up does he? Highlights include a very pretty song in French that I remember him playing in Barcelona; the haunting "Our Drab Ways"; and "If We Refuse To Suffer" (which is getting me through a self-imposed smoking ban).

the next grozart, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I found an old copy of Abdul and Cleopatra / Oh Carol (the chuck berry song) on Beserkley the other day. Yay 4 me.

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Interesting Grauniad piece this weekend.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 09:26 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, yeah, yeah

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 23:43 (one month ago) link

dum de-dum-dum, de-dumma-dum day

doleful lundgren (Matt #2), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 23:49 (one month ago) link

Ohhhh, New England.

nickn, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 01:55 (one month ago) link

Little Kookenhagen is so damn sweet.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 02:05 (one month ago) link

I didn't realize Bell House had four shows booked for him, and the first and last aren't sold out. Setlist.fm seems a bit incomplete for his recent shows, but is it worth going multiple nights on the same tour or is it pretty much the same show each night?

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 04:21 (one month ago) link

I would imagine there are significant differences, but have not put that to the test

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 04:25 (one month ago) link

I dream of flying to the US to see Jonathan some day

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 09:25 (one month ago) link

He used to play in London quite regularly in the 80s, at least. First time I saw him was the best - supporting JR & Modern Lovers supporting Orange Juice at the Hammersmith Palais. He hadn't actually been to the UK for a while at this point, and it was almost a 'comeback' gig - and he was absolutely full Jonathan, almost glowing with good vibes. He got a rapturous reception, and we were not alone in being there for him rather than the headliners. I rather regret we didn't stay for Orange Juice now, but we just didn't think ANYBODY could follow what we'd just seen.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 09:39 (one month ago) link

I saw him on Glasgow years ago. It was the period when he used to have a mike set up at this feet to pick up the sound of him dancing. Don't know if he still does that. I also know people who hung out with him afterwards and said he was almost uncomfortably intense - maybe a post gig thing.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 09:42 (one month ago) link

Pre-gig too iirc

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 12:02 (one month ago) link

I saw him in Brooklyn many, many ages ago. He was great, and I hooked up with someone who was massively out of my league, so technically it was the greatest show I've ever been to.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:05 (one month ago) link

I was only able to catch tonight's show and it was amazing. He may be in his 70's, but between his voice and his dance moves, he seemed as youthful as ever. His face obviously looks older, but surprisingly as I watched him up close, he reminded me of Henry Fonda around the eyes - he has the same twinkle in them that Fonda carried into his 70's.

Anyway, thanks to the MTA, traveling there kind of sucked, so I made the most of it - loaded up on merch (got the last Modern Lovers T-shirt my size) and stuck around with a few fans who wanted to meet him afterwards. During the show, there was a guy with an eyepatch off to the side that looked like David Johansen - when Richman came out, that guy was with him, and I said out loud "you know, that guy looks like David Johansen," to which someone replied "he IS David Johansen." I didn't know they even socialized together so that was pretty mind-blowing. He went straight home but Richman hung around for a bit and was very sweet. Class act all the way.

birdistheword, Monday, 11 March 2024 05:23 (one month ago) link

Must've forgotten this - they played on the same bill once back in the day:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/newyorkdolls.html

birdistheword, Monday, 11 March 2024 05:29 (one month ago) link

One more detail, when someone asked him to sign a CD of Precise Modern Lovers Order (Live In Berkeley And Boston), he said "THIS album captures how we REALLY sounded," or something like that, and he repeated it with a bit more emphasis, so I'd take that as a very strong recommendation.

birdistheword, Monday, 11 March 2024 07:45 (one month ago) link

Indeed.

Must've forgotten this - they played on the same bill once back in the day:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/newyorkdolls.html🕸

Thanks, don’t think I saw this before. Believe this gig is kind of central to the first chapter of Will Hermes’s Love Goes to Buildings on Fire iirc.

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 March 2024 09:25 (one month ago) link

was there last night as well. Jonathan was on fire. have seen him many times over the years, but that was near the top. his affection for the "old world" came up in recent discussion here. Jonathan is very much in the old world needs to go mode these days.

bulb after bulb, Monday, 11 March 2024 12:13 (one month ago) link

thanks for sharing your experiences

as I think I've stated many times already it's a big dream of mine to see him someday

not so likely to happen

so I enjoy these second hand reviews

corrs unplugged, Monday, 11 March 2024 12:55 (one month ago) link

I’ve seen him many times but haven’t been paying attention recently so am also appreciating the reviews

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 March 2024 16:18 (one month ago) link


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