Cassie: The new Ciara?

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Yes I agree with that. "Don't Cha" isn't even the best Pussycat Dolls single.

I think this is maybe the most severe psuedo-crunk R&B track - "Oh" is its only challenger, and I think this sounds even emptier than that, though "Oh" does have some raw blemished grunt in its favour.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Deej did you get my e-mail?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

No i didnt! i wonder if it was spam filtered?

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

No I think I had some general problems with e-mail that day (this was about two/three weeks ago maybe?) - I will e-mail again.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

17) that cassie "me & you" video is so sexy i can't even handle it.
-- jaxon (jaso...), August 1st, 2006 4:05 PM. (jaxon) (admin) (userip)

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks Luis. No "Just Friends." I cry now.

Mallory L . O'Donnell (That Bitch Camille), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

This song has majorly grown on me over the last couple months. I love singing along to "tell me if you like it!"

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link


>For those who don't have a good copy

(No idea if I'm doing the html right.)

It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 3 August 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's try again.

>For those who don't have a good copy

It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 3 August 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

That one worked.

It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 3 August 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and mod-people, that isn't a direct link.

It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 3 August 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Cassie's the new Amerie. like duh. they even look alike

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 3 August 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Amerie was/is the old/new LeToya.

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Friday, 4 August 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought Cherish was the new Ciara

moriarty (moriarty), Friday, 4 August 2006 02:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, that Cherish song is so horrible ("Do It To It").

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 4 August 2006 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I like "Do It To It".

It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 4 August 2006 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought Cherish was the new Ciara

how do professional musicians keep up the pace?

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 4 August 2006 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Here's the proper tracklist:

Cassie-Cassie-(Retail)-2006-H3X

01. Me & U 3:12
02. Long Way 2 Go 3:40
03. About Time 3:33
04. Kiss Me 4:07
05. Call U Out 3:32
06. Just One Nite 4:06
07. Hope You're Behaving (Interlude) 0:36
08. Not With You 3:17
09. Ditto 3:34
10. What Do U Want 3:13
11. Miss Your Touch 2:33

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 4 August 2006 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link

'long way 2 go' is so good; she's so detached it's virtually spoken word.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 4 August 2006 07:06 (seventeen years ago) link

that Do It To It song is a complete rip of Ciara's "Oh". i thought it was some Target commercial at first.

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 4 August 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"Do It To It" is like the '00s version of "Land of a Thousand Dances." They're both pretty annoying.

clotpoll (Clotpoll), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I find it kind of intriguing to note that my three favourite songs this year are "In White Rooms", "Me & U" and "Silent Shout", which are united by a verging-on-severe chill formalism - total pop degree zero.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 06:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a chilly year, Tim!

Catherine Ryan (and so this is catherine), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Catherine, I was pleased to note you've been listening to The Blue Nile!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Who are also a rather shimmery, frosty bunch, I feel.

(I've been listening to Luomo, also, while we're on the topic of icy pleasure.)

Catherine Ryan (and so this is catherine), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

New Luomo album soon! I'm excited. Catherine did you like that Vladislav Delay remix of Rhythm & Sound's "Truly" on that comp I gave you. Delay and Luomo are the same person if you didn't already know.

(sorry everyone else, this is wandering off topic)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I can kind of picture Paul Buchanan's voice working over "Me & You"'s icy backdrop

gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, no, his voice has too much presence..

gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I may never understand what it is people like about this kind of flat disengagement.

I also may never understand how an artist or songwriter goes about deciding whether a song will be a "You" track or a "U" track. I really wish people would stop doing the latter.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Saturday, 5 August 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Ur no fun.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"I can kind of picture Paul Buchanan's voice working over "Me & You"'s icy backdrop"

Surely it's only a matter of time before Junior Boys release a cover of "Me & U".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"I also may never understand how an artist or songwriter goes about deciding whether a song will be a "You" track or a "U" track."

I think it gets sent to a special committee. It's tried out in various focus groups. And then they just pull one out of a hat and go with it.

Catherine Ryan (and so this is catherine), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

For those of you who are interested in such details, the real simple falling down blip line in "Me & U" is in the clave rhythm.

This track is good - very good; stunning, in fact - but it doesn't move me as much as "Oh." Neither does Ciara's "Get Up" for that matter, though that's a good track too. My problem with each is that when the vocals coalesce into melody it's what I call "standard '00s r&b melody" (which I can't explain any better than that) (and "Get Up" does go into interesting pastorale moods, it's a fascinating song in a lot of ways, just doesn't make my heart disintegrate); and I'm just not a fan of "standard '00s r&b melody." I'll have to give more thought as to why. I think "Me & U" needs even more chill, and the tune even less melody.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a question: how near can you approach to complete stillness (or dead silence) and still be a pop record?

moriarty (moriarty), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Frank I know what you mean I think - the intersection b/w the arrangement and the vocal on "Oh" is definitely more startling and unusual. But I quite like the way the vocal melody on "Me & U" speeds up for the chorus (alongside that insistent itchy percussion), as if it's falling forward inevitably, like the body stirring and responding to stimuli.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Was just listening to Pink's "Is It Love," a slow sing-song chant from '99 (and one of the most intense things she's ever recorded), and was thinking that that was the kind of melody I'd want "Me & U," something as insistent and repetitive as the accompaniment. Obviously, Pink doesn't do iciness, but I think her type of singing could work very well on this (though it'd be very different).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't heard this yet, but reading all the "Oh" comparisons makes me realize that I absolutely must hear it immediately.

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Sunday, 6 August 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Frank I love "Is It Love". When I first heard that Missundaztood was going to be kinda confessional, I imagined a whole album like that. But it's still something of a one-of-a-kind.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 August 2006 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

frank totally otm with the crunk-pastorale thing on 'get up' (which is exactly why that song makes my heart disintegrate)

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Even with my reservations about the vocals, I'm switching over to the majority here: "Me & U" is monstrously, megalithically powerful. And to think so much of the power comes from those little high blips. Those blips just kick ass. Hey, love them kick-ass blips, babe.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I find it kind of intriguing to note that my three favourite songs this year are "In White Rooms", "Me & U" and "Silent Shout", which are united by a verging-on-severe chill formalism - total pop degree zero.

-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), Yesterday.

It's a chilly year, Tim!

-- Catherine Ryan (cjrya...), Yesterday.

Worth repeating

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

me & u remixes plus tools:

http://www.discobelle.net/2006/07/14/you-and-me-cassie/

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 6 August 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't wait to listen to the acapella on repeat over some basic channel beats

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 6 August 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

well, maybe, maybe not

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 6 August 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The absence of melisma sits well with the early 80s ish textures on the synths, Im liking this a lot. Only problem- Snare could be better (but then again there are whole R'n'B tracks where the ONLY good ting is the snare...)

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 6 August 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone know who does the 'me and u' remix on her myspace page? and where to get it?

link: http://www.myspace.com/cassiemyspacemusic

jaime (jaime), Saturday, 19 August 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

she can not sing. not at all. can't even lip-sync to her own song.
can't dance--and her stylist needs to be fired.

see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsIaRm2vqKg

sonore (sonore), Saturday, 19 August 2006 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

...and yet I still like her.

naus (Robert T), Saturday, 19 August 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus christ, I totally was thinking of Cassie after all. Delete me from thred, pls.

Duane Quarterdump (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 June 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

posted this in r&b too, but icymi there:

https://open.spotify.com/album/5cEwQsdQjSF9ZbZ6ctpuST

maura, Friday, 4 August 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

Pretty smooth, I dig it although the rap was unneeded. Hopefully she actually drops another project this time around.

all the way down, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

new non-g-eazy track is exactly what I wanted the Jessie Ware album to be

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

Absolutely love it! Just release the album, Casandra.

all the way down, Monday, 25 December 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFr11MdK5wk

maura, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I had totally forgotten about her (and her great album) but Spotify showed me she has just released a single and I found out she's actually released many over the last couple of years (like a EP worth of material).
After a first listen they all sound pretty good.
Whatever happened to her ? How come she still hasn't released a second album... 13 years after her debut ??
She's not yet in Gunsn'Roses / MBV territory but for a rnb/popstar that's a crazy long time !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link

Huh ? Why is this thread NSFW ??

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link

She's got a song called 'Don't Play It Safe'.

(I have no idea.)

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

Going back to her album + "Official Girl" reminds me how great she was.
She should have been a huge star.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 19 July 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

'Skydiver' is like the most amazing song ever.

Nourry, Friday, 19 July 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

errr what's that song ?? It's not even in her discography on wikipedia !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 19 July 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

It's one of the many songs that showed up on the internet around 10 years ago, maybe?

It's here the youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLIbtbd32jI

Nourry, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

Whatever happened to her ? How come she still hasn't released a second album... 13 years after her debut ??

This thread pretty much tells the story tbf - i.e. too many good tracks leaked; too many less good tracks selected as trailers for a potential new LP; found domestic bliss; soon to be a mother, I believe; music now just a hobby?

I just listened to the last 3 released cuts on Spotify. I see they are linked by similar cover art, so this may indeed become an EP or something more soon. All 3 songs are OK, but no better than the weakest of the late 2000's leaks. The latest, "Speaking Of" is probably the pick of the bunch.

Jeff W, Friday, 19 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

back by way of South African house:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHNmOQUJNBM
Black Coffee ft. Cassie • Time

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 5 February 2021 23:14 (three years ago) link

that is really lovely as usual

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 5 February 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link

cassie...don't hear that name round these parts much these days...

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 February 2021 00:07 (three years ago) link


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