Earth: s/d, c/d?

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dylan looks cleaned up and healthy in the recent pics i've seen, a great improvement over how he looked in the kurt & courtney movie at least (that shit was creepy).

eman (eman), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

he didn't come out too well in that: "Kurt was rich. Why would he ever stop using heroin?"

Snappy (sexyDancer), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Seattle Weekly article on new Earth by pdf!

donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I got to see Earth live a year and a half ago (they played between drone-rock gymnasts Comets On Fire and Kinski on the same bill. Most people didn't like them because Dylan wouldn't jump around or freakout all crazy like).. they were great... it was Dylan on guitar and Adrienne on drums. Dylan still manages to make people's guts vibrate even on guitar... it was a great set.

donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually all three bands were excellent that night, but Earth were fantastic in a completely different way. I like the Comets and the Kinskis, don't get me wrong.

donut e-g (donut), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Cool; I didn't even know that was up online. I had to make lots of phone calls to marshals in multiple states to get that info on Hunt.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

what is wire fraud, anyway?

Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

In this case, something involving getting funds through Western Union that you're not actually entitled to.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I've heard dozens(at least) of people paid $100 for Earth 2 on vinyl and other such and they never got them. Josh aint a popular man. Probably for his sake he better hope its the cops who catch him.

Go have a look at the SL and stonerrock.com forums.

Ranklin, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

aka the Craigslist fraud.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Good news. Josh Hunt was arrested this week.

http://forums.southernlord.com/viewtopic.php?t=8168&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Ranklin, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link

No need for
http://www.houstonscene.net/images/hunt.jpg anymore.

Ranklin, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Bootleggers Beware!
Joe Preston ... You're Next!

Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

My god, that poster looks like a well executed publicity photo for his "label"... It's the mention of Earth on the arrest warrant that just grabbed me.

Wow.

donut e- (donut), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, Legacy of Dissolution is just divine. Just forget who the "remixers" are.. seriously. Close your eyes and just guess who it is for each track. You'll be very surprised who remixed what... and then realize it just doesn't do any good to listen to a track with preconceptions of what the remixing artist(s) will do.

(unless the remixers *were* shuffled around randomly and this is just a big low-key subtle prank.)

donut e- (donut), Saturday, 2 July 2005 05:28 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Re-up. Fascinating Seattle Weekly piece, Phil.

ng, Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Has Josh's trial come up yet?

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Earth sure is a great band...

sometimes.

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone else agree that the autechre mix of Coda Maestoso in F(Flat) Minor is one of the greatest remixes ever?

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm still not convinced it's Autechre.. (see above).. but that track is really great... I agree.

donut ferry (donut), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
OK, the Earth/KKNull split CD is fantastic. I am very biased though, because the CD is essentially the European 10"(?) they had for sale when they toured together(?) in Europe later in 2003.

Anyway, I was at that Crocodile Cafe show in Seattle from whence the first track came from. They played in between Comets In Fire and Kinski. I'm very surprised at how well it sounds! I'm probably just excited because this is probably the first live show that's every been officially released which I actually attended... (fucking finally.)

I'm hoping the KK Null track is great..(don't see why i won't be)

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:25 (eighteen years ago) link

And I just got the new CD today Hex :Or Printing In The Internal Method. This is quite a departure.. but wow! I mean, if you liked Codeine, or if you can imagine Pell Mell at half the speed, this might give an approximation of what this sounds like.. however, it's even more majestic than that. As much as I love earlier evil, ugly Earth, this is really a shockingly great surprise. I already know this is a Top 10 of 2005.

donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:00 (eighteen years ago) link

no worries, guys.. this definitely drone-worthy.. just not in the same trademark that Earth has solidified in the past, that's all.

donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm still not convinced it's Autechre.. (see above).. but that track is really great... I agree

Yeah, I doubted it too for while. However, I subsequently found out that it is definitely them. There's a very interesting interview by dr3w d4niel where they discuss it here

hmmm (hmmm), Thursday, 29 September 2005 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Most people think the new Earth is like the Neil Young 'Dead Man' soundtrack.

I think it's a great album. I ordered the vinyl today.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
The more I play this album the more I love it.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 30 October 2005 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't have that Earth/KK Null split mentioned upthread. I've heard its not very good. Is it worth buying?

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 31 October 2005 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link

When I want to listen to drone, I usually just make it myself. Lean a fifty dollar guitar against a fifty dollar amp with a fifty dollar distortion pedal between 'em. Occaisionally kidney punch the guitar. It's so much more fun to make your own music.

The Good Doctor, Monday, 31 October 2005 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link

right, and when i want to listen to rap i just turn on someone else's record and talk over it.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 31 October 2005 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh don't worry. That was just Dan's idea of humour.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

You can find 3 live mp3s from a UK gig over at
http://forums.southernlord.com/viewtopic.php?t=9962

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
The first four albums've been reissued on vinyl, if you didn't know/are interested. They're v good, y'know! And "Earth 2" is classic just for being a long double w/THREE tracks (it's amazing in other ways but that's so cool).

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 29 June 2006 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Earth 3 got reissued, which is the nice thing... that was fetching mighty prices on ebay until recently. (GREAT album! Possibly their best.)

San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Thursday, 29 June 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

First time on vinyl, too. I kinda think all their albums're their best.

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 29 June 2006 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I pre ordered Pentastar on vinyl. I could only afford one. It sounds great.
I already have earth 2 on vinyl anyway.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 29 June 2006 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link

For the curious multitudes:

"Extra-Capsular Extraction" is the first Earth LP. Ostensibly and EP, but there's no reason to propagate bullshit. It's a fucking album. Some will know it as "the one with Kurdt Cobain on it." Others won't. It fuggin' RULES, bro. Up there with "Earth 2" as the best shit they ever put out. Like having drug-sex with really hot snails. At 3.333 RPM.

"Earth 2" comes next. And it's even better (if only 'cuz it's longer). Totally fucking gorgeous, smeary, ecstatic drug drone. Absolutely natural and essential. Like if you gave a pineal gland a guitar, this is the record that gland would make. If, you know, it had hands or something... Yeah, sure, you could accurately describe it as the grunge version of some miserable new-age "cosmic tones" bullshit, but it transcends any labels you stick on it. The sound of the universe breathing. My favorite record of '93, and a top-ten contender ever since.

Ummm, and then you get "Phase 3: Thrones and Dominions". A HUGE step down in quality. The layered, primordial, multitracked sonic tarpit gets traded in for comparatively clean, straightforward guitar tones. Simple harmonies. "Songs". Nothing is ever really given room to build and resonate, and you just don't get the same feeling of "TOTAL PHYSICAL/PSYCHIC CONNECTION TO THE FUCKING UNIVERSAL SOUND, DUDE." Some good pieces, and not a terrible record by any means, but a disappointment nonetheless.

The "significant" portion of Earth's career winds up with "Pentastar: In the Style of Demons". Now, at the time of this album's release, it felt like the death-knell for Earth (which, in fact, it turned out to be). They simply weren't the band they hand been, and didn't seem to know what they wanted to do next. The comparatively clean tones of the previous album return, with an ever greater emphasis on "songwriting" and "rocking out." Some GREAT stuff here, and it's undeniably a better record than "Phase 3," but it's also awkward and half-formed. Do not start here.

THEE APOCRYPHA:

45 of early Cobain-era stuff: okay, and a fine addition to the sub-canon. Not really essential, tho.

"Sunn Amps and Smashed Guitars": another slice of prime-period (early 90s) material that doesn't meet the standards set by the first couple albums. Recommended to fans.

That German art museum live 12": skip it.

"Living in the Gleam of an Unsheathed Sword": great title -- boring record.

K.K. Null split: worth it only for the K.K. Null stuff.

Sunn0))) split: haven't heard it.

"Hex: or Printing in the Infernal Method": Surprisingly decent. Not comparable to the Earth of old, but fully-formed and interesting. Better, certainly, than "Phase 3". Not as rocking as "Pentatstar", but of comparable quality.

Note in closing: Sunn0))) never hit the heights set by Earth. In the early days, their sound very much resembled Earth's, and they even (jokingly?) pegged themselves as an "Earth tribute band". But for all the sturm und drone, their early records remain curiously detached and cerebral. Heavy as hell, but landlocked and tedious in a way that Earth's best material never was.

Over the last few albums (the "White" records and "Black One"), Sunn0))) have finally come into their own. They no longer sound in the least like Earth, and they're all the better for it. While it's a very different kettle of fish, "Black One" is a FANTASTIC record. Up there with "Extra-Capsular" and "Earth 2".

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Thursday, 29 June 2006 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

In the "Extra Capsular" section above, that really shoulda been an "an". But you already knew that, I guess...

Why am I typing? Shit, why do I fucking EXIST?.

*sob*

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Thursday, 29 June 2006 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Skew's "Doom vs. Doom" puts vocals by MF Doom atop music by Earth, Sunn O))) and Jesu. It's even better than that sounds. Download it here.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

it doesn't sound very good, though.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the matter, don't you smoke the herb?

(I just listened to it, and liked it.)

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean the concept doesn't sound very good. i'm waiting for it to download.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, that was the point about the stoniness. They have at least weed worship in common.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been wondering if I should get the "Phase 3" vinyl reissue, saw that in the store a couple weeks ago. I recently got "Hex" which is okay but not as engaging - the riffs are simple, but somehow not simple enough if that makes any sense...? They're repetitive and drone-y, but they lack the really thick sonics of the early stuff (ECE, 2, Pentastar) And I think I've listened to "Living in the Gleam of an Unsheathed Sword" maybe twice...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

If you like "Pentastar" as much as "Earth 2" and "Extra-Capsular", then definitely pick up "Phase 3".

If (like me) you think "Pentastar" is substantially weaker than the first couple albums, then it becomes a dicier proposition. "Phase 3" is definitely the worst of the four canonical Earth albums, though it does contain a few stellar tracks.

For what it's worth, I'm glad I own a copy...

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Friday, 30 June 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

phase 3 is carlson all drugged up trying to squeeze one out for sub pop, and it's definitely a transitional period between 2 and pentastar.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Saturday, 1 July 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.subpop.com/bands/earth/earthbio.html

[...] Downer use at atrocious, possibly toxic levels in remaining member of band. Fall of '93 recording begins on Phase3. D.Carlson , for a variety of sordid reasons, misses the first 2 ½ days of recording. For these sessions Tommy Hansen (formerly of the Fartz and Crisis Party) plays second guitar. Sub-Pop pull the plug on the sessions. Anger and recriminations follow. Earth's standing with the Company are at a low-ebb. D.C.'s imminent demise predicted. Ian Dickson leaps into the breach and stakes job on completion of record. A year later (fall '94) sessions are booked at the Soundhouse with Scott Benson on the board. Rick Cambern does drums
on one track. Sessions in trouble Ian locks D.C. in isolation booth for 6 hours. Due to a medical emergency the sessions crash to a halt. D.C.: "_____ went out in the bathroom, Scott won't keep recording." Ian: " How much do we have recorded, is it enough for a record ?" D.C.: " It's 58 minutes, long enhough." The album is a critical masterpiece (well, at least 2 critics). Phase 3 released April '95.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Saturday, 1 July 2006 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
Word on the new one:

Southern Lord recording artists Earth have finished the recording and mastering of their latest album tentatively entitled Hibernaculam. The audio material consists of (3) old Earth classics redone in a different, stark and clean tone (ala the "Hex" material) plus the track "A Plague of Angels" which was previously available on a rare tour-only 12".

The album will be a special dual CD/DVD "hybrid". With the audio mentioned above on one side, an Earth documentary filmed by Seldon Hunt lies on the other. The documentary features many interviews with Dylan Carlson and live footage from the groups 2006 European tour.

Track-listing:
CD SIDE:
1. Ouroboros Is Broken
2. Coda Maestoso In F (Flat) Minor
3. Miami Morning Coming Down
4. A Plague of Angels (2006 mix)
DVD Side:
-Earth Documentary with interviews and live footage (filmed by Seldon Hunt)

Personel:
Dylan Carlson: Fender Telecaster
Adrienne Davies: Drums
Jonas Haskins: BassVI & Rickenbacker
Steve Moore: Trombone & Wurlitzer
Don McGreevy: Fender Bass

Hibernaculam will be released on Southern Lord in the first half of 2007; more info coming soon!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

*drool*

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
hibernaculum is v. v. good. at 36 minutes it could stand to be twice as long but I guess I should be grateful for whatever we get out of these folks at this point. fuzzy + warm, like sliding down a fallopian tube stuffed full w/ tribbles.

not sure how it measures up against their recent output, haven't really paid attention to them since the early 90s.

Edward III, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I like it, but it's definitely Hex Part 2, and points the way toward their next album, which will have guest guitar from Mr. Excitement himself, Bill Frisell! Don't know if my heart can handle it...

unperson, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Really full sound. Multiple Carlson dubs

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

Power chord riffs

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

The Colour of Poison (sic: they use the British English spelling) is their most rock/"metal" piece in a long time

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

ah..... it's always good to see the first correct spelling of colour by a lolmerican of the day.

calzino, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

Given his obsession with English folklore perhaps unsurprising that he uses the British English spelling

Duke, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

sorry, I didn't mean that as shitty as it probably sounded!

calzino, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Thought I was kinda over this band but overheard most of the new one in a record store last week and really liked what I heard. Maybe I still like Earth after all.

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 6 July 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Yeah, the previous three albums didn't really click with me, but this new one is great

Duke, Saturday, 6 July 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

Just me and Duke - no one else? The more I listen to the new one, the more I like it. Refreshing to hear the undiluted Earth formula again.

It occurs to me that DC is an easy guy to take for granted. I mean, he invented this sound whole cloth, and it's such a distinctive, singular sound. I've been disappointed by almost everything after Hex (which I still love), including the solo stuff that I kept compulsively buying for some reason, but this new one has definitely reignited my interest in the band.

Does anyone know if he's still exclusively playing the Tele? I assumed Dylan was a Tele guy all the way but some of the guitar tones on this new album sound very thick and humbucker-y to me.

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:50 (four years ago) link

i liked primitive and howling a lot, if the new one's even better hell yeah

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link

and deadly*

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link

New one is good yes

imago, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link

wait it came out in may?!??! what have i been doing

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link

Yeah I liked silent but deadly pretty well but have slept on this one thus far.

It didn't help that he nailed the aesthetic very early with the bees made honey and so the two angels albums were disappointing.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7JjLix4FYI

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 23 June 2023 21:23 (nine months ago) link

just came here to post this – amazing!

fpsa, Friday, 23 June 2023 22:16 (nine months ago) link

sounds great!

budo jeru, Friday, 23 June 2023 22:46 (nine months ago) link

That fucking rules.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Saturday, 24 June 2023 09:18 (nine months ago) link


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