Charlie Rich - Behind Closed Doors

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haha "feel like going home" is like a warning to me right now, i hope it's not prophecy.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 25 September 2003 18:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Rumple, I didn't actually know there were three versions, so you've got me there. I did mean the Pictures and Paintings one.

And sorry if 'arrogance' sounded a bit harsh. I didn't think it was arrogance that you didn't like it, more that you thought it wasn't even worthy of comment (good or bad). I still think it's a remarkable record.

Amateurist, the other profile is in Lost Highway.

This thread makes me want to play a lot of Charlie Rich this weekend.

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Will it go round in circles? as my good man Billy Preston might say. Time for Sir Charlie to have the last word:

(doomy piano note)
(slight charlie growl)
Lord I feel like goin' home
(bee deedle deedle deedle dee piano begins)
I tried and I failed
(more)
And I'm tired and weary
An' everything I done was wrong
(beedle deedle deedle dee, particularly sad)
And I feel like goin' home
(slightly bright beedle deedle)
Lord I tried to see it through
(darkness, hard beedle deedle)
but it was too MUCH
(again, slightly ironic, perhaps)
for me
And now I'm comin' home
to you
(sad sad beedle deedle)
I feel like goin' home
(88s restate the case)
Cloudly skies are closin' in
(beedle deedle)
And not a friend
around
to
help me
From all the places
I have been
(beedle deedle)
Now I feel like goin' home
(heavenly-bound beedle deedle dee)
Lord, I feel like goin' home
I tried and I failed
And I'm tired and weary
Everything I done was wrong
(regret beedle deedle)
And I feel like goin' home
(almost jaunty beedle deedle dee-dee)
And that's it.

And that IS it.

rumple., Friday, 26 September 2003 17:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

whoops. after next-to-last "feel like goin' home" insert:
(charlie touches angels)

apologies.

rumple., Friday, 26 September 2003 17:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
can someone YSI me that famous demo of "feel like going home"? i heard it once and it's haunted me ever since, but i've never been able to find an mp3 of it.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 12 January 2006 06:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

if nobody beats me to it i will rip/post this shit tonight when I get home ---- it's too beautiful ------

reacher, Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, would definitely like to hear that as well. Much thanks.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 January 2006 16:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Behind Closed Doors is a great song, but it's been rather spoiled in Scotland through its use in a TV advertising campaign about domestic violence. A very effective advert, but it made the song rather sinister.

stew!, Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

that "Feel Like" is amazing. I remember getting it on a great Rich tape my friend made for me, years ago, and driving thru Arkansas on my way to Little Rock from Memphis, just overwhelmed by it. I do think Sherrill fucked Rich up aesthetically, sure, but at the same time the man needed to get some recognition. such a melancholy guy, so troubled. I'm a fan of his two Epic LPs from '70, "Boss Man" and "Fabulous Charlie Rich," which seem to me a perfect compromise between his earlier stuff and what he did later. even there, though, I think there are some missteps. but as I'm sure I've mentioned before here, there are no words to describe how much I love his "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Charlie Rich is one of my heroes--and I totally disagree with the anti-Sherrillism. "Set Me Free," "Peace on You," "Don't Put No Headstone On My Grave," and especially "Life's Little Ups and Downs" are all absolutely gorgeous and light years from the "glop" tag that Sherrill gets. They're really perfect recordings.

Guralnick's chapter on him in Feel Like Going Home (for which, Charlie wrote the song) still amazes me every time I read it.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Here's the "Feel Like Going Home" demo. Recorded in Nashville 1973. You can hear piano pedals or maybe the stool creak. I titled and built the concept of a radio show around it.

http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20WIJGMRBOG0R32FZQ8V5NW6JC

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, and it comes from Feel Like Going Home: The Essential Charlie Rich (Sony/Legacy 1997). Selected and annotated by Guralnick. Two CDs of utter sublimeness.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002AB1/qid=1137093681/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/103-0227664-5327031?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Scratch "Headstone" from that list of classics; it's clunkier than I recall. Add "You Never Really Wanted Me" or "A Woman Left Lonely" instead.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

A thousand thanks for that, Roy!! You and everyone who contributed to this thread past and present are now like minor deities to me or something. I have been educated, and: It's Good.

The lyrics alone to that song are like, wow. Charlie Rich has pummeled me into even greater inarticulateness than usual.

Dell (Dell), Thursday, 12 January 2006 23:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

sublimeness sublimity

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 13 January 2006 00:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Edd needs to share with us that "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" song.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 January 2006 00:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I do, I do, and I need to figger out this YSI stuff, semi-Luddite (by necessity, not by inclination) that I am these days...with my old Mac and my manual lawn mower...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sounds like I'd have better luck asking Charlie.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

sublimeness sublimity

Whatever. sub-lime'ness, n. the state or quality of being sublime.
-- Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, Deluxe Second Edition. (My favorite.)

I have "Memphis & Arkansas Bridge" but on vinyl. Maybe I'll kill some more time and transfer.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i have that dictionary, too! edd, i don't have this Chrlies Rich, so get to ripping, or lawnmowing.

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

make that Charlie

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Charlie Rich "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" from Boss Man, Epic 1970
Produced by Billy Sherrill

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08Z1HNPH5R8PL19ZNZYLGMGB6X

If you dig, it looks like both Boss Man and Very Special Love Songs are available as a twofer on Edsel (a reissue from '05 that should have been on my list):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/tracks/B0007MAQVY/103-0227664-5327031?%5Fencoding=UTF8#disc_1

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 03:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

thank you so much!!!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 13 January 2006 04:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Sun and Groove/RCA stuff is hot, too. "Breakup," "Philadelphia Baby," "Who Will the Next Fool Be," "Big Boss Man," "There's Another Place I Can't Go."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 13 January 2006 04:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Up-thread somebody said there was a Billy Sherrill-produced version of FLGH (not counting the demo). Maybe in the vaults, but it's never been released, near as I can tell.

And if there's one demo of Rich and piano, there's got to be more--that shit needs to be released.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the Amazing Rhythm Aces do a real respectable version of "Who Will the Next Fool Be" on their first album, which I checked out of the Nashville public library recently and discovered I quite liked.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That Feel Like Going Home is magnificent, Roy - thank you. I had a version, but this is even better.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 13 January 2006 21:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's all I needed tonight, Roy. Thanks for the upload.

And thanks to Edd for putting the bug in our ear.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I signed onto YSI. why, it's so easy...

anyway, went back and listened to those Sherrill/Rich records, and they're certainly a cut above the usual '70s Nashville gloppy shit. Rich's voice almost always makes it all really interesting. Just think what could have happened had Rich gotten on Blue Note or some jazz label; just think about him backed by Duke Ellington...he wouldn't have made as much money but I bet he would have been far less melancholy, and maybe still alive today...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 14 January 2006 14:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

...if the Duke would've made him quit smoking cigarettes.

Not so sure Charlie would've benefited from straight jazz/Blue Note kinda treatment, he was a true fusion artist intuitively blending styles, his easy listening tendencies figure as imporantly as his jazz and blues leanings (along w/the realism/sentimentality schism in wife Margaret's lyrics). Though an album of Charlie Sings Standards w/a big band sounds enticing on paper in practice it could turn out like his "legendary" Stax sessions which left me kinda cold. Long story short, I think CR's Billy Sherrill period is better than credited, arguably his peak esp. those initial 3 albums: Big Boss Man, Set Me Free, The Fabulous Charlie Rich.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Billy Sherrill years aren't so bad, but after BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, Sherrill "whitened" up Charlie's sound something terrible. As best as I can tell, that was really Charlie's last great moment before PICTURES & PAINTINGS.

I've never heard SILVER LININGS (a post-'74 gospel album that Guralnick thinks is great), but in general anything Sherrill produced on him from that year onward - BEWARE, BROTHER, BEWARE!!!

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Sunday, 15 January 2006 00:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

The Feel Like Going Home demo can be bought from iTunes or Amazon. It's on an out-of-print comp called FLGH, The Essential Charlie Rich. No better way to spend 99 cents.

that's not my post, Friday, 8 May 2009 05:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Silver Linings is awesome.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

There's also some great stuff on that older Bear Family comp of his Sun Records recordings. A lot of it is just plain nuts, especially stuff like "Popcorn Polly." It seems like whenever Rich tries to write a straight forward teen hit, he can't help but take it some oddball directions. One of those guys who sound nice and conventional on the surface, but when you peel it back is profoundly weird.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 9 May 2009 18:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

at the end of the day, it's really all about that slow walkin', fast talkin', good lookin' Mohair Sam...

henry s, Sunday, 10 May 2009 16:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Nice 'N' Easy, damn, that's a sexy tune.

that's not my post, Monday, 6 July 2009 03:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

That CMA clip is on youtube now...Charlie was Fuuuuuuuuuuuucccckkkked Up...the cut to Glen Campbell after it's over is priceless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krZmHCQ3l9o

The whole show is up as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDyPmBlon0Y

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:06 (six years ago) Permalink

that clip is awesome. but poor dude who had to keep that timpani roll going for 25 seconds.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:54 (six years ago) Permalink

thnaks for posting is all i can type thru tears of laughter

screen scraper (m coleman), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 09:52 (six years ago) Permalink

kanye rich

screen scraper (m coleman), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 11:16 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

The man is so desperate, he's casual: Music Sounds Better With Two talks about Charlie Rich (and musical isolation) - http://musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/endless-quest-charlie-rich-most.html

agincourtgirl, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:30 (four years ago) Permalink

It Ain't Gonna Be That Way the Complete Smash sessions is pretty essential methinks.
Some of his early 70s stuff had me wondering if he was a conscious influence on Nick Cave, Tindersticks and a few others.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:55 (four years ago) Permalink

The most recent Oxford American music issuue has a great Rich piece:

http://www.oxfordamerican.org/articles/2014/jan/07/issue-83-dear-charlie/

Okay, there's lil' Zipper again (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 13:50 (four years ago) Permalink

That Oxford American article is fantastic. Mind-blowing to think he didn't start singing until he was 22. Would be on my short list for favorite singers.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 05:56 (four years ago) Permalink

In 1966, when Charlie Rich was at a nadir in his career, Sy moved him to Hi Records, a small-time local studio, and Natalie brought Isaac Hayes in so Charlie could take a shot at one of his songs, “When Something Is Wrong With My Baby.” As Natalie recalls, the backing band was composed of legendary session players from Stax and Hi—the Memphis Horns, Andrew Love and Wayne Jackson, along with Tommy Cogbill on bass and Willie Hall on drums. Hayes sat next to Charlie at the piano and taught him the song before they recorded it in one take. For “Pass on By,” Sy Rosenberg himself blew a meandering trumpet solo in the background.

The Hayes track was never released


Just came across this track on Spotify right before reading this. Pretty sweet.

Visions of Mojo Hannah (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:55 (four years ago) Permalink

As I said way up thread, one of the most versatile pop musicians ever. Him and Ray Charles, anyway. Going to hunt down that Oxford American issue today.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I need to see that too

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:20 (four years ago) Permalink

You can read online, I think.

The Jody Valgrind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Yup, that link right above. Maybe Jazzbo just wanted the hard copy of the magazine

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:41 (four years ago) Permalink

Is it in the latest print issue or it in the Music issue from end of last year? I have a physical copy of that but keep misplacing it.

The Jody Valgrind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Silver Linings is awesome.

― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, May 8, 2009 3:22 PM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just got another vinyl of this, and 10 years ago me OTM.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:07 (one month ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/ai9WUg6.jpg

tandoor vittles (unregistered), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:41 (one month ago) Permalink

ILX shall now be split into three warring factions.

pomenitul, Monday, 27 May 2019 17:42 (one month ago) Permalink

Never forget that one time a decade or so ago when the only working thread was for a Canadian Zeppelin clone.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:43 (one month ago) Permalink

I don't remember that

tandoor vittles (unregistered), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:47 (one month ago) Permalink

but lol

tandoor vittles (unregistered), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Nope.

pomenitul, Monday, 27 May 2019 17:51 (one month ago) Permalink

In any case found cached version and no evidence therein. Believe we lost seventeen days of history at the time.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Well at least a few people might discover Charlie Rich, that's a plus.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Monday, 27 May 2019 18:08 (one month ago) Permalink

Well I make it alright.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 May 2019 18:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Who Will The Next Poxy Fule Be?

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 May 2019 18:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Behind Closed Threads

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Monday, 27 May 2019 18:35 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm listening to The Essential Charlie Rich as we speak :O

Number None, Monday, 27 May 2019 18:36 (one month ago) Permalink

the titular song of this album was used in an advert by the scottish executive raising awareness regarding domestic abuse and has been forever ruined for me due to the association

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 27 May 2019 18:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Wait they used “behind closed doors” rather than “have a heart” for an abused dog campaign?

Heez, Monday, 27 May 2019 21:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Ugh sorry not abused dog. I think I did I mistaken that for a US commercial

Heez, Monday, 27 May 2019 21:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Ugh sorry not abused dog. I think I did I mistaken that for a US commercial.

Heez, Monday, 27 May 2019 21:33 (one month ago) Permalink


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