i completely disagree with this and yet i can't quite explain why..
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 27 January 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
&re: nz industrial uh I think HDU's moments of "beauty" etc don't fall into the eurotonic whatevah that industrial's moments of beauty do; I'd point more @ skeptics/foetusproductions/headlesschickens for that.
& uh this =>f.nun is operating a bit differently to the south island based independent it used to be -- it belongs to a big multi-national now -- which seems to have produced a change of emphasis, or was it the change of emphasis that led to the need to up-size ?=> is a straw man.
― Ess Kay (esskay), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 08:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
looking back at what i rather scathingly wrote about HDU, i think it's my way of addressing that serious pain consistent with their volume -- ok i'm biased or setting up a side complaint here, but since i can't get past the bodily reaction i have to their noise that's rock'n'roll
(oh, why do i have to get the earplugs ? protect myself, ensure that the environment i'm paying for is actually safe for humans ? if earplugs are mandatory at hdu, then there's a band seriousley out of touch with its audience, not listening)
and i haven't experienced the mixes you mention SK, and might eventually get around to their albums, but what volume and conditions should i set ? it would be nice to think they are a good band of course, but this high dependence thing is a serious credibility hike for some it would seem (i think that's their business, although i can see how pain threshold might be something the audience worries about, even if no-one else cares)
― george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 13:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
hmmn I always took the "High Dependency Unit" as (either) self-deflating or whatever re : taking their name from Shortland Street; didn't read anymore into it.
lately I've been using hdu as uh background music when reading janet frame etc in bed - at low volume it's ambient/new-age/dreamy/spacey etc; at high volumes it can be (insert-usual-descriptions-of-HDU-here) but that can be said of My Bloody Valentine or perhaps even Merzbow. There's actually a lot of SPACE (not-planetary-sense) in their music - i'd make connections with the uh nz dub consciousness, emptiness of the land, blah blah curnow 30s lit stuff & that - it's not as DENSE as perhaps portrayed. also their drummer is very moonman & interesting, like's he's drumming in zero-G or something. also i have not heard their early stuff.
my earlier comment about HDU not being wall-of-noise was when there were fairly stringent noise control restrictions => hdu's desire for MAX VOLUME are self-defeating sigh)
um & I haven't been to lots of rock gigs & stuff compared to say clubs (ie WHERE'S THE BASS?); & being young & (maybe) resilient the volume thing doesn't really affect me yet.
(uh apologies for incoherence)
― Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 02:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
earplugs = concerts are often loud = i believe i should protect my hearing
― Laney, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 23:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
although there are frequently associations of people and events when we think of music, and that helps make up our personal likes and dislikes. but if we're going to talk about the music, then that stuff is irrelevant.
ok, this sounds more difficult to back up the more i say anything. but, i could say something like... errr... i think that bob marley made some good records but i can't divorce his music from stoopid stoners so i don't like bob marley records.
― Laney, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 30 January 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 30 January 2003 01:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― duane, Thursday, 30 January 2003 01:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 30 January 2003 10:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 30 January 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
01. The Clean - Anything Could Happen02. Bored Games - Bridesmaid03. Doublehappys - Needles And Plastic04. Gordons - Adults And Children05. Children's Hour - Carolines Dream06. Verlaines - Death and the Maiden07. The Great Unwashed - Neck Of The Woods08. The Chills - Pink Frost09. Sneaky Feelings - Husband House10. Look Blue Go Purple - Cactus Cat11. Bird Nest Roys - Alien12. The Bats - North By North13. Skeptics - Agitator14. Snapper - Buddy15. Tall Dwarfs - Nothing's Going To Happen16. Straitjacket Fits - She Speeds17. Able Tasmans - Hold Me 118. The Cakekitchen - Dave The Pimp19. Headless Chickens - Gaskrankinstation20. S.P.U.D. - Breakdown Town21. David Kilgour - You Forget22. Chris Knox - Not Given Lightly23. The Renderers - Bigger Than Texas24. J.P.S. Experience - Precious25. 3Ds - Hey Seuss26. Dribbling Darts Of Love - Hey Judith27. Bailterspace - Splat28. Bike - Save My Life29. Garageland - Fingerpops30. Solid Gold Hell - Bitter Nest31. Superette - Touch Me32. Loves Ugly Children - Voodoo Girl33. Bressa Creeting Cake - Palm Singing34. The Subliminals - The Crystal Chain35. Betchadupa - Spill The Light36. HDU - Schallblute37. The D4 - Exit To The City38. The Hasselhoff Experiment - Drag Racer39. Stephen Malkmus - Death and the Maiden40. PanAm - Interstate Boy41. The Mint Chicks - Post No Bills
― etc, Monday, 3 May 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 3 May 2004 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd be interested to read a complete videography for FN - I wonder if "Duane Eddy" had a video, &c&c&c.
― etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link
haha thee Nun have been pursuing a few bands who would rather remain independent (& considering that's happened to the Munt Chux, I'm not surprised).
― etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
at least they're not the ch3cks, haha.
― etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― jwd, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link
oh and according to reliable sources, the toy love double cd IS a reality, and will be out soon with pretty much everything you could ever wish for concerning the band..
― chris andrews (fraew), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― jwd, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris andrews (fraew), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link
1. The Clean - Beatnik2. Bored Games - Happy Endings3. Tall Dwarfs - Turning Brown & Torn In Two4. Doublehappys - The Other's Way5. Bill Direen - Alligator Song6. Chris Knox - Half Man, Half Mole7. Look Blue Go Purple - Circumspect Penelope8. The Chills - I Love My Leather Jacket9. The Bats - Made Up In Blue10. Jean-Paul Sartre Experience - Flex11. Scorched Earth Policy - Johnny Frog12. This Kind Of Punishment - Immigration Song13. Skeptics - AFFCO14. Axemen - Wharf With No Name15. Verlaines - Bird Dog16. S.P.U.D. - Motorway (live at the Rising Sun)17. The Terminals - Uncoffined18. Drill - No Trouble19. NRA - Glitch '9020. Straitjacket Fits - Down In Splendour21. Sneaky Feelings - Cry You Out Of My Eyes22. 3Ds - Outer Space23. Able Tasmans - Big Bang Theory24. David Kilgour - No No No25. Headless Chickens - George26. Bailter Space - X27. Pop Art Toasters - What Am I Going To Do?28. Superette - Killer Clown29. King Loser - '76 Come Back Special30. Loves Ugly Children - Suck31. Bressa Creeting Cake - Papa People32. Bike - Welcome To My World33. HDU - Lull dark restart (Soundproof remix)34. The Hasselhoff Experiment - What's The Deal With The Man In Red?35. Garageland - Feel Alright36. Betchadupa - Bits37. The Subliminals - United State38. The D4 - Get Loose39. PanAm - Japanese Girls40. The Mint Chicks - Blue Team Go!
― etc, Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link
STILL the wrong JPSE video! tho "Flex" IS my favourite JPSE track*; hope the video's ok.
*the Straitjacket Fits cover of this (off Roger Sings The Hits is pretty great as well - anyone want me to gmail it to them?
― etc, Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link
It's great! And I'm very glad this is out because I was annoyed that the first DVD was missing a lot of tracks on it like, indeed, "Flex."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 6 November 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeremy (Jeremy), Saturday, 6 November 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
-- keith m (keythkeyt...), November 6th, 2004.
it was all paul reid's fault!
nah prolly not.. but simon's been making good music since though. i dug the subliminals and sleepers union, though i dunno what he's gonna do now.. last time i talked to him he mentioned the possibility of doing another band with brendan moran (the subliminals / hassellhoff experiment), and was performing with dale cotton (conray)
― chris andrews (fraew), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
electrodribble tribute to flying nun
http://www.morrmusic.com/artist/Various%20Artists/release/118
― lolsdale street (electricsound), Sunday, 10 May 2009 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link
that comp is pretty dire.
― keythkeythkeyth, Sunday, 10 May 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Flying Nun Founder Regains Control Of Label
This is pretty good news, yes?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Hopefully, yes! Apparently with full control just using Warners for distro, tho there have been other reports saying Warners have some sort of other stake in it. Should clear the way for a nice reissuing project too (hopefully we'll get some vinyl)
― Bill E, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
The letter 5 'the lost years'
― keythhtyek, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Woohoo! Open the vaults and flood the market with wonderful kiwi jangle/electro/general weirdness!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 24 December 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Getting handed back the reins to an independent music company must be a bit of a poison chalice these days
― badg, Thursday, 24 December 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Vehicle is one of the all-time great strummy guitar albums, up there with Wedding Present and Unrest.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 August 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
I disagree! I strongly believe it pisses all over those guys
― trippin' on brostep beats (NickB), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
It's truly great...and forthcoming review somewhere soon.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
good news - vehicle might be my fave clean release, even moreso than the early stuff. amazing guitar sound.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
listening to it now, oh man, it is so good. best band.
― tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
Oh come on, those strummy Wedding Present and Unrest albums are awesome, there's room for everyone here.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
pl don't bespoil this thread w/ the wedding pres
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
(people don't like prime Wedding Present? Bizarro.)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 August 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Oh don't worry, there are plenty of WP fans who love the Clean too.
Personally, I found Vehicle not as compelling as the early stuff and have a real soft spot for Modern Rock!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 2 August 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
Yep - agree with Gerald M-B. I like Vehicle of course but it does not have the dark, anarchic kind of vibe that early Clean has - would like to see Compilation reissued with this kind of lavish treatment personally.
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link
Isn't the first disc of Anthology a complete set of early Clean? That's my go-to over Compilation.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
Modern Rock has "Secret Place," right? That's a nice song. "Vehicle" I always thought was where Robert's Bats-y writing started to be just as prominent as Kilgour's writing, imo.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
I find Anthology unwieldy - I like the more concise and more coherent nature of Compilation - I think most of the tracks from the earlier volume are on the latter though. Anthology has too many of those goofy song experiments on it for me.
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link
Cosign on preferring Compilation to Anthology ("Art School"!); was a Singles Going Steady kinda comp for lots of Kiwis.
Anyway, new & v.v.v.good on F.Nun is the new Sharpie Crows, though it's more in the line of the Skeptics/Gordons end of the label's history. Also: Skeptics documentary, Sheen of Gold at this year's film festival!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PRHndjg2Fw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX2u7CQSQlU
― etc, Monday, 5 August 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link
Skeptics doco looks great. I didn't like that Sharpie Crows 'Spread' tune so much but the new one Bully 4 You is wicked amazingness.
http://www.undertheradar.co.nz/music/1084/Bully-4-U.utr
Also check new Chills - no longer with F Nun I think but always with them anyway.
https://soundcloud.com/#firerecords/the-chills-molten-gold
Promising signs I think - hopefully Martin can get his stuff togethor to actually release a proper album. Everyone else is doing it - why can't he?
― Hinklepicker, Monday, 5 August 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
Hinklepicker square otm here, only non Compilation Anthology track I really love is Platypus, but Art School/Hold Onto the Rail omissions are unforgivable.
Odditties version of Thums Off is p great imo though.
― chicken (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link
I love "Some Fantasy" by DoubleHappys.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 6 November 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link
So obviously not really Flying Nun, but there's no Toy Love specific thread so -- sad news to report about Jane Walker's passing:
https://www.facebook.com/AudioCultureNZ/photos/a.506398366094767/1934325256635397/?type=1&theater
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link