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i still think that album is their peak. 'summer sun' disappointed me initially but it has well and truly grown on me

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 28 March 2004 06:17 (twenty years ago) link

A friend has had my copy of 'And then nothing...' for over a year now.. i'm ready to disown her. I love that album.

Painful has been my favourite of late, esp. Sudden Organ.

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 28 March 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago) link

seven months pass...
If anyone bought / received "Summer Sun" and kinda, sorta liked it but barely played it, break it out and have another go. I have been playing this album constantly for the last 2 months and it is truly beautiful. Off to buy the 2 I don't have - "Painful" and "Fakebook" this weekend. Hooray!

Piers (piers), Monday, 15 November 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

may i sing with me and fakebook are my two faves by far, the latter being a weird one-off acoustic valentine to their favorite records, the former being a perfect marriage of pop songwriting with guitar fuckery.

i like quite a bit of painful, too, but it seems to me that the more and more they've gone into sonic fuckery, the less and less attention they've paid to the songs. i liked them best when they had that balance.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link

they were also classic as ray davies' backing band for one week in new york a few years back -- especially compared to the other two backing bands davies was rotating in and out during the same shows.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Was "may i sing with me" an early release?

(And why don't HTML tags work for me fcc - how you doin' 'em?)

Piers (piers), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link

may i sing with me (achieved through standard html open bracket-I-close-bracket tags) was relatively early, yeah, right after fakebook and before painful. it's the only album they recorded for alias records.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Painful; let us know what you think about it. It coheres much better than most of their records, I think; it's all of a piece and a mood. It isn't schizophrenic like Electropura and I Can Hear The Heart. It's the same strength that And The Nothing Turned... has, but it's not overlong.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

If anyone bought / received "Summer Sun" and kinda, sorta liked it but barely played it, break it out and have another go.
Hmmm ... that definitely describes me.

"Painful" is wonderful, it's an album that I can hear two or three times in a day without getting tired of it. "Nowhere Near" was in the top 10 on my ballot for the 90's poll.

As others have mentioned, YLT really should keep their albums under 50 minutes or so, although when they go totally bonkers with their eclecticism ("I Can Hear the Heart ...") they can be excused for stretching things out another ten minutes.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm partial to May I Sing With Me. I think it was the first indie record I bought, as a senior in high school. Was turned on to them via Hal hartley - "Always Something" was on a comp of songs from his movies. that summer ('97) I saw them along with Bailter Space and a pre-fame Liz Phair play Irving Plaza in New york. Later, Painful just about soundtracked my freshman year at college. I saw them live a few times after that, but was turned off each time unfortunately. There were a lot of three- or four-note bass melodies that dragged on interminably that wrecked it for me.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I Can Hear the Heart gets my vote as fav YLT.

However, I sure wish they'd take the mic away from Ira. God, I hate his voice. Sometimes, I don't think he's even trying.

darin (darin), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link

In the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary there's a big picture of Yo La Tengo next to the word Meh.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I think they get better with every record - but each record takes a lot longer to get into ..

Also the Today is the Day , EP version, is pretty fantastic ..

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link

totally classic. is there a better trifecta than painful-electropura-i can hear the heart beat as one? i think they slipped with ...and the night but it's still a good album, just some of those songs take on a stream-of-consciousness vibe combined with Ira's lazy, lou reedy vocals that just beg me to hit >>.

j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Painful and also enjoy I Can Feel the Heart..., but for some reason I found myself liking them less and less in general the more of their albums I listened to. I need to spin them a few more times, of course... but right now I'm just not feeling them in general. Beh.

sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

They need another singles comp.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I've seen em about 30 times, so guess. (First opening for Jonathan Richman around '86... hey, it's the soundguy from Maxwells!)

Electropura is my favorite. All the "rockists" HATED Summer Sun when it came out.

Great taste in covers too. And they named themselves after a Richie Ashburn tall tale, how Classic can you get?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I think "Summer Sun" is lovely. Like all YLT albums, for me--esp the quieter ones--I go long periods not wanting to play them, thinking they're kinda academic (somehow) and dull, but they're not. "Summer Sun" is no more a 'drop off in quality' than any other record they've released: it's great.

Dark Horse, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

i didn't like summer sun much and wasn't crazy about ...and then nothing, but the other night I heard the first track from that in a club and it took me until the end of the song to figure out what it was, and I loved it!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud! I saw them once, woeful pub rock.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, they sucked when I saw 'em live.. but some of their records are great.

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

guhWHA?

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Ian OTM.

They were pretty awful live.

Some of their songs are good, but I can never really make up my mind about them.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

they've always been pretty amazing live when I've seen them (back around may I sing with me, then after i can hear the heart and again around ...and then nothing; I also saw the sounds of science show they did to the films in SF), but, I kindof have no desire to ever see them again.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One is great. I can't get into any of their other albums.

a banana (alanbanana), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

whoah! this is just one guy's opinion, but i've seen YLT live a few times and each ocassion was laquered in superiority. they were especially LOUD which was kind of surprise the first time i saw them, which was in support of 'painful'. i haven't seen them in concert since 'i can hear the heart...', so maybe the performance quality has dropped off along with the album content, but i seriously doubt it.

j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I have to join the 'YLT = awful live,' though my experience was back in 1992 both times, and both times they had one good song and a lot of dullness. Please also keep in mind that they were opening both times for acts dear to my heart. First time was the Verlaines. Second time, oh, I don't know, some band you might have heard me talk about called My Bloody Valentine... (Between them on the bill -- Buffalo Tom! WTF!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Please also keep in mind that they were opening both times for acts dear to my heart. First time was the Verlaines. Second time, oh, I don't know, some band you might have heard me talk about called My Bloody Valentine...

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), November 17th, 2004.

WOW! i'm breaking out in hives of envy right now.

j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link

What an awesome bill Ned, crikey. I've seen YLT live once supporting the "And Then Nothing..." album, and it blew me away. Wouldn't be surprised if they are better live now than ever before given it appears YLT are getting musically much better with each album (better composition, layers, subtlety, more groove, rhythmic dexterity) but sure, take away the guitar noise and some fans have lost interest.

Loving YLT is like loving your disfunctional relationship with your friend/partner/parents/children. Flawed but cherished.

Piers (piers), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link

What an awesome bill Ned, crikey.

Uh, no it wasn't! Sorry, I really didn't like YLT and they've barely registered with me since, and I absolutely hate Buffalo Tom. This was a bill of suffering through the openers to get to the headliner.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link

the gig the pinefox was at, I was at too, and they were fantastic, he probably thought them too loud or something. And the pub rock comes from them covering a (iirc) suzi Quattro song.

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Really ylt is one of the best live bands I've seen, I can't believe others have had bad experiences!

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

they were great yes, Pf hates musical fun

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

You are mean!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

greatest band of the world of the last 15 years. live and on album. summer sun was amazing. they keep getting better (and mellower) with every album. the only band i'd buy any album of blindfold. still a question here. did anyone get their latest:, a political statement which didn't make the difference v.o.t.e. where they teamed up with chris stamey to play some covers?

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, they were way too loud and droney live. I like the instrumental disc on Genius+Love=

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh sorry Ned, I didn't realise you hate Buffalo Tom! Well, at least you got a great headliner that night!

nice summer sun write up alex.

Piers (piers), Thursday, 18 November 2004 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
"I Am Not Afraid of You, and I Will Beat Your Ass "

classic or dud album title? (will be out soon).

coco the kid, Sunday, 28 May 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

That does not sound like a YLT album name.. Sounds like a Dump album name though.

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Sunday, 28 May 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

on track preview here

willem -- (willem), Sunday, 28 May 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic in my book. I agree with Miccio's suggestion of working from specific albums based upon your interests. I think all their records are great. Live, it can vary. They can either be The Greatest Band In The World or The Best Cover Band Ever, depending on the night. I've also seen some fantastically boring YLT shows in my time.

Their summer concert in NYC last summer was fun.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Sunday, 28 May 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

Does Louis Jagger like Yo La Tengo?

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

who cares? great band.

stephen, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Painful, still in my top 10 albums of the '90s. gorgeous, unforgettable album.

stephen, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

OTM! Yes! Painful is all killer, no filler. I mean, "Nowhere Near," "Big Day Coming," and just when you think they couldn't possibly top themselves, they go and throw "I Heard You Looking" at you. Though it is equally as great, I never understood why ICHTHBAO was the indie-rock du jour of the time, while Painful slid by relatively unnoticed.

Does anyone remember their "guitar tech" touring buddy (small skinny dude with bug-eyes and toussled hair - appeared to be perpetually in the throws of a meth binge) who was constantly by their side, running around and either tuning and prepping equipment or holding down organ "drone" keys for them during tours for Painful and Electro-pura?

Pillbox, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

the last show of theirs i saw (Sept 07), YLT opened with a nearly 30-min. version of "I Heard You Looking" :)

stephen, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn.. that must've been nice. I'm a sucker for epic psychedelic guitar-noize freakouts, especially when performed live and especially ones with a melody/leitmotif as gorgeous as IHYL. I stopped going to their shows sometime around 2000 b/c I thought their records were starting to get a bit blase. Maybe I should start going again..

Pillbox, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

oh the live shows are still GREAT.

stephen, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anyone remember their "guitar tech" touring buddy (small skinny dude with bug-eyes and toussled hair - appeared to be perpetually in the throws of a meth binge) who was constantly by their side, running around and either tuning and prepping equipment or holding down organ "drone" keys for them during tours for Painful and Electro-pura?

FUCK yes. When I saw them in 1994 I was constantly amazed at what he was doing/how he was doing it/how everything worked so seamlessly. High point of the show: "Out The Window" breakdown --> chaotic loops/drones --> "Sudden Organ." Killed.

Despite putting on three of the most incredible live shows I'd seen, I couldn't bear to see them on the tour following the fiasco that was Summer Sun. A friend of mine (and huge YLT fan) did, and was literally bored to tears.

Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

The "Freewheeling Yo La Tengo" show I went to was pretty boring too. Too much VH1 Storytellers and jibber-jabber, not enough music, and the somewhat acoustic setting makes it hard to hide the fact that none of the three of them have strong singing voices.

(But their two Saturday shows at the GAMH, March 2000, were near the best live shows I've ever seen.)

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

great acoustic set last night at a benefit. 2 highlights from James, Sun Ra's Nuclear War and Black Flag's Nervous Breakdown.

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 15:05 (ten months ago) link

I put together this little YLT deep cuts mix ... a good listen, I think!

https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2023/05/22/yo-la-tengo-deeper-into-deep-cuts/

tylerw, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 15:06 (ten months ago) link

Ira throws out the first pitch at a Mets game!

ole pal @noah_s just texted this in from the first base line pic.twitter.com/0DNv21coiy

— joel berk (@pfcidb) June 1, 2023

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:58 (ten months ago) link

pretty good!

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:00 (ten months ago) link

pretty good pitch too! Ira must have loved that.

(lol xpost)

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:00 (ten months ago) link

Matador has tweeted video of Ira's honorary first pitch too.

I need to dig into Tyler's deep cuts mix soon

curmudgeon, Thursday, 1 June 2023 23:03 (ten months ago) link

I just played it, very worthwhile. But not downloadable (didn't they used to be?).

nickn, Friday, 2 June 2023 06:48 (ten months ago) link

it's just one big mp3 file but if you right click / save as you should be able to download it.

tylerw, Friday, 2 June 2023 14:40 (ten months ago) link

aw yeah "Nutricia" is one of my very faves

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Friday, 2 June 2023 14:43 (ten months ago) link

that's a song I could just play on a loop forever I think

tylerw, Friday, 2 June 2023 14:47 (ten months ago) link

xp
OK, I got it, thanks. My PC said "save link as" and I thought that would just copy the link, not the file linked to.

nickn, Friday, 2 June 2023 19:15 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

been on a big ylt kick, i'm familiar with the core four (painful -> and then nothing) but little outside of it. and then nothing is one of my favorite records of all time so it's been wonderful to discover that they made a few more slow motion nighttime insomniac records just like it (summer sun and there's a riot going on) and i adore them as well!!!

ivy., Thursday, 27 July 2023 17:01 (eight months ago) link

don't sleep on the new one either, fantastic stuff

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 27 July 2023 17:07 (eight months ago) link

i'm gonna listen to it today!!! :)

ivy., Thursday, 27 July 2023 17:28 (eight months ago) link

fade and i am not afraid of you... are both very good too

but this stupid world is a top 3 ylt album

ufo, Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:45 (eight months ago) link

hard agree

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 27 July 2023 21:24 (eight months ago) link

Their sea creature documentary soundtrack is great too

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:47 (eight months ago) link

yes!

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:49 (eight months ago) link


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