Eyes Wide Shut

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haha re girls in 2001: the stewardess who does the 180º vertical walk-turn has industrial strength VPL!!! => any philosophy the movie DID contain would be thus be set at naught... as it happens it doesn't contain any, so as you were

i quite like the bit where hal is killing the boring spacemen, but sadly the wrong robot wins

mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

But more clumsy, less graceful, like the spaceships moving about in spacey bits, like three actors, strings, and staring over the side of the set, down at their puppet Spaceships, all juddery, Clangers-like incombumblence. Clumsy, not graceful. All content, no style.

david h(owie), Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

the clangers roXoR!! it is SO *WAY* bettah than 2001: better spaceships, better special effects, better characters (it actually HAS characters), better story, better music (ok i like ligeti), better curvature of planet surface

mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

haha i read david h(owie)'s post where he says "still receptionists in 2001" and tht "how do you know what year it's set? i don't remember them mentioning that..."

mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark, you forgot the best reason Clangers >> 2001: better knitting!

RickyT, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

And and and 2001 only has a robot, whereas Clangers has a robot (metal chicken) and dinosaurs (soup dragon and child)

RickyT, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

But 2001 has APES!

Andrew L, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
i just watched EWS: i did like it kinda, even if it has – as usual w. kubriXoR — industrial strength bad acting and mucho lame clumsiness, and is entirely NOT "deep" or stuff

i like the weird glow he gave new york: nicole k is pretty good too, tho shelly duval is still the only woman SK actually ever met, i think (except for his daughter who wants a bushbaby)

mark s (mark s), Monday, 11 November 2002 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

ews = kubrick's closest to realized potential

boxcubed (boxcubed), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Mark you should really watch Lolita again. (It contains the best acting in any Kubrick film ever, seemingly by accident)

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

(and also some of the worst, as does EWS - s.pollack-as-himself especially notwithstanding. and i loved EWS)

haha yes mark see lolita again - surely some new level of meaning to be gleaned there, as you must be about the kid's age by now

jones (actual), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
for all of the films faults the masked ceremony scene is one of the most chilling sections of any movie ever. the masks are freaky as fuck. they make every move of the head or the body so weighted and confusing.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

A dreadful film.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i pretty much agree.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link


adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

we have to, after all.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Talk To Her

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link


jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

no this film is so misunderstood. It is amazing.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Jed, do you like Morvern Callar? Kyle does.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

no i dont - i like the last scene with the slow music and fast dancing but i pretty much hate it.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

good. very good.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I love this movie so much. I keep meaning to watch it again.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 22 October 2004 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm with Kyle. The molasses pace of the dialogue takes some getting used to. If EWS were a song, it'd be Spacemen 3's "How Does it Feel".

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 October 2004 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, tom cruise sTILL is a sucky actor. why the fuck would anyone cast him? whjy does he clench his jaw all the time? is he trying to compete with Scarlett Johansen for the "Lets build a career out of one expression Lifetime Achievement Award"?!

ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 23 October 2004 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Eyes Wide Shut and Morvern Callar are both brilliant.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 23 October 2004 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i just bought "Barry Lyndon" it's the only Kubrick i haven't seen.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 October 2004 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Ryan O'Neil is even worse than Tom Cruise, but I think that's the point.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link


RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the word is 'cipher'.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I did not care for EWS at all. The thing that bothered me the most about it was the awful piano score that was going throughout the film. Each painfully drawn out note was like a punch to the head.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

The woman responsible for that lived around the corner from me, in Stoke Newington.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I love the score! I love slow, drawn-out minimalism.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i still contend that eyes wide shut actually was a 24 hour long film, because it sure fucking felt like it

todd swiss (eliti), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

That's what's great about it!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link






Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

which Cypress Hill tune is that?

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Red Eyes Wide Shut

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I prefer Sinker's "Eyes Wide Sh!t" (I wonder if it's still online?)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Ryan O'Neil is even worse than Tom Cruise, but I think that's the point.


gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 23 October 2004 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

A friend of mine and I were talking about Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" last weekend. My friend observed that whenever he asked his guy friends if they liked "Eyes Wide Shut", an overwhelming majority praised it, but when he would ask his women friends what they thought, an overwhelming majority said they hated it.

Being curious, I looked at the ratings for EWS on the movie database, and indeed there is a pretty significant gender split, with males rating the movie much higher than females across age groups.

Of course, I'd take the movie database's ratings with a grain of salt, but assuming it might reflect a true difference...theories? Perhaps women find Nicole Kidman's character more interesting than Tom Cruise's, but given the short-shrift in the storyline?

Joe, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

oh dere's tits

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm, I hate admitting that it might be the fact I'm a woman. But I did hate it at the time. The idea seemed terrific on paper but I hated the way it played out. Now, after so many years and having read his biography (well, both Kubrick's and Cruise's), I think I might actually turn around and actually enjoy it. At the time I hated it because it was a late 19th century Freudian book converted to a 20th century story. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? I think I was (maybe still am) very hesitant to praise Freud.

stevienixed, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

I watched it again recently and I was really struck by how AWFUL Tom Cruise is.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Cruise seems willfully bad in this film. I feel like Kubrick must have directed him to be so incredibly flat for a purpose. In a way it feels appropriate, as the doctor is dreaming all these scenes and he is not really functioning as an agent. Rather, this action is happening to him, and his blankness can be seen as an indicator of his remove.

wmlynch, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

it was a late 19th century Freudian book converted to a 20th century story.

Still seemed very 19th-century Viennese to me (under the veneer, where it counts).

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:53 (twelve years ago) link

to be honest, i never thought his performance was that bad and i've seen it many times. i see how it could be seen as flat though -- that seems to be his attempt to act dumbstruck by what's happening to him, which actually does lack depth.

but nicole kidman is awesome to watch in this -- it's the sort of unstable character she knows how to play.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

also um yeah the boys like this movie cuz there are like, 40 naked women in it?

Surmounter, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

only in the newly available Euro version.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

Dr, I don't agree, really, the story was transposed to Hollywood/LA. I shoudl see it again. I'm relying on my (crappy) memory. What I now realize: how painful it is to see their marriage fall apart on screen. Very weird and, in a way, painful.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

you have always been the caretaker, Mr Collier

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2019 19:56 (ten months ago) link

this is prob my favorite kubrick movie bc i'm a dumbass. barry lyndon #2

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 9 September 2019 20:34 (ten months ago) link

my boring opinion is that kubrick's films are all at least good

i mean, even fear and desire isn't really that bad for what it is

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:02 (ten months ago) link

I’m with Brad

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:19 (ten months ago) link

'fraid so

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:30 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

infilitrating one of those eyes wide shut secret masked sex parties but just for the music

— ▀▀▀▀▀▀ (@immolations) October 17, 2019

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:47 (eight months ago) link

lol "no you don't understand, I only go to those parties to see Nick Nightingale play"

flappy bird, Thursday, 17 October 2019 04:07 (eight months ago) link

four weeks pass...

Paths of Glory and The Killing, wisenheimer

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, September 9, 2019 2:52 PM (two months ago)

Posted just barely too early for "OK Boomer."

temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 November 2019 14:20 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

A recent meme:

Here are some photos of the Buttigieg fundraiser in Napa -- with the famous wine cave and the chandelier with 1,500 Swarovski crystals -- hosted by a for-profit HMO billionaire. pic.twitter.com/JZhoMgtJHL

— Kompromatthew (@MattTheGweat) December 16, 2019

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:28 (six months ago) link

ok that is actually funny

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:33 (six months ago) link

Some intriguing points of intersection with another Frederic Raphael-written film about a floundering marriage: Two for the Road with Finney and Hepburn. For starters, its last dialogue is

"Bitch." "Bastard."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:16 (six months ago) link

i thought this was a good point:

Among Eyes Wide Shut’s strangest effects is that it feels like a video game: its dialogue is clumsily literal, repetitive, and expository; its plot is linear and structured like a quest; its protagonist encounters almost exclusively non-player characters, simple ciphers with no purpose beyond helping or obstructing him. Its simulacrum New York recalls the game-worlds traversed by Jude Law and Jennifer Jason Leigh in eXistenZ (from the same year), where the plot stalls if the players don’t use the correct phrases.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:04 (six months ago) link

Really tempted to see the new year in watching this but not sure my wife would be up for it.

Alba, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:39 (six months ago) link

Somehow I only saw this film for the first time this year. I think I'd have enjoyed it more if it'd gone all Mulholland Drive in the last 20 minutes, instead of finishing on a total damp squib of a shopping trip.

AMM stands for Axe-Murdering Motherfuckers (Matt #2), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:22 (six months ago) link

that video game theory is p cool, eyes wide shut does kind of have an fmv horror game feeling about it

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 21:36 (six months ago) link

same Alba

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 12:50 (six months ago) link

the whole simulacrum thing is just kubrick 101 post-lolita. there is a quote by him about how film is not a photograph of reality, but a photograph of a photograph of a reality.

tonga, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 17:21 (six months ago) link

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