Golden Girls: Classic or Dud?

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Jeanne, will this do?

rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 12 April 2003 23:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pictures you'd like to see:

Bea Arthur in drag---as a woman

Skottie, Sunday, 13 April 2003 06:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

From The Glossary of Literary Terms:

"The Old Comedy of the Greeks had three stock characters whose interactions constituted the standard plot: the alazon, or imposter and self-deceiving braggart, the eiron, or self-derogatory and understating character, whose contest with the alazon is central to the comic plot; and the bomolochos, or buffoon, whose antics add an extra comic element....Northrop Frye has revived these old terms [and] added a fourth, the agroikos -- the rustic or easily deceived character."

Obviously: Alazon = Blanche; Eiron = Dorothy; Bomolochos = Sophia; Agroikos = Rose

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 13 April 2003 07:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Danny Thomas is a lesbian?!?"

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 14 April 2003 09:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm sorry Bea Arthur battered Ally, but she still totally rocks my world!

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

She threw me to the ground! She might as well have spit on me, the old bitty bitch!

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why was she so enraged? Did you bring up the Star Wars xmas special?

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
More, please.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic! Was this the first TV series to star older women exclusively? Has there been one ever since? Older actresses don't get that much respect, they're usually offered only the granny/matriarch roles, and they definitely don't get to talk about sex. As mainstream TV is concerned, Golden Girls was groundbreaking indeed.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I already said classic on the Lifetime thread, but I'll say it again. In fact, I'm watching it right now.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Someone at work yesterday made a hipster "Bea Arthur" reference and no one laughed. I informed the sad fellow that Rue McClanahan was the new Bea Arthur.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

"Golden Girls" was "Sex and the City" -- fifteen years ahead of its time. Think about it.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

It says the same thing on the IMDb Golden Girls user comments, Barry. I call shenanigans.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Complete and utter CLASSIC!!! One of the few reasons to even get out of bed in the morning.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Golden. Sex and the City cannot hold a candle to it. Also one of the only funny things on SNL in the past x years was the golden girls skit.

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha, I hadn't seen the comments on IMDb, but I did figure that I couldn't hae been the first person to make that connection.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked watching it for Sophia, but also it was funny how they rarely left the house except to get the mail or something.

Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
* *GOLDEN GIRLS Season 3 DVD*


The Girls Are Back!

Cast DVD Signing for the Emmy-Award Winning TV Series
at Barnes & Noble in NYC November 22nd

WHO: "Golden Girls" cast: Bea Arthur, Betty White, and Rue McClanhan

WHAT: America's favorite girls are together again to celebrate the
release of the GOLDEN GIRLS Season 3 on DVD with an in-store
signing. Fans can now enjoy another helping of laughter,
misadventures, and cheesecake with this laugh-filled season of
the Emmy-Award winning TV sitcom -- all 25 episodes in this new
complete DVD set. Included are the original and unedited
"Golden Moments" episode where the girls share fond memories of
their times together, plus hilarious bonus features that prove
good comedy never grows old.

WHEN: Tuesday, November 22, 12:30 - 2:30PM

WHERE: Barnes & Noble Booksellers
675 6th Avenue (6th and 22nd)
New York, NY 10010

Be4 4rhtur ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I should ask them to sign my tits, Motley Crue-style.

Rue ƒur¥ McClananan (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

lifetime had a 20th anniversary special (really done in '03 actually, with some new unfunny Mo Rocca-led bumper segments tacked on), The three(Estelle Getty was absent of course) all taped their host segments seperately so there still must be some pretty bad blood between them. Show is classic obv.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

How cruel, Je4nne, to post this mere hours after the event's over!

Paul Eater (eater), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm ashamed to say that I just saw a report of this on "Entertainment Tonight". Check your local listings.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link

me and my mom used to watch this every weekday in my early teens. sophia was our fav character. why is no one mentioning her? i cant believe estelle getty is still ALIVE. wtf?

Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

she's younger than bea arthur, foo. Nowadays she has pretty advanced parkinson's and doesn't appear in public anymore though. But all the GGs are still with us!

tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

she's comic dynamite btw, it almost goes without saying. The ensemble probably had the best comic timing pound for pound of any television show ever thanks mostly to her (and Bea Arthur)

tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link

estelle getty - my favorite ever.

also, my little sister loves this story that when they were casting, they kept saying 'we need like, a betty white type' for rose. then they finally got smart and got betty white to do it!

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Season four of The Golden Girls comes out on DVD on February 14th, with season five following on May 9th.

The season five will apparently feature commentaries from Betty White.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 4 February 2006 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
seriously upset that I missed this:

http://www.laweekly.com/a-considerable-town/12958/that-golden-moment/

no dish on the bea/betty/shit/dressing room incident. I'd like to think that if Bea showed up, she would have told the story without prompting.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 1 April 2006 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I have so few opportunities to dig up the "drunk and everyone else applauds" thread, so this thread will have to do.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link

also, my little sister loves this story that when they were casting, they kept saying 'we need like, a betty white type' for rose. then they finally got smart and got betty white to do it!

They were? I thought the whole point was that they got Betty and Rue but they decided to switch it around from their MTM days where Betty was the slutty one and Rue was the naive one.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Rue was on MTM?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm... she was on Lou Grant it seems.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, I thought she was also on a few eps of MTM... Because I have barely seen one or two eps of Lou Grant but I remember finally seeing Rue as naive.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:38 (eighteen years ago) link

She was on Maude frequently as... I guess a normal person.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link

more importantly, rue was in starship troopers

gear (gear), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Which only makes it all the sadder that Bea turned down Showgirls.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:49 (eighteen years ago) link

someone shat in the dressing room?

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

every version I've heard: Bea shat in the middle of Betty's dressing room floor(my favorite); Bea took a mean shit in Betty's dressing room toilet and didn't flush, on purpose; upthread: Bea apparently once shat in Betty's shoe which would be unfuckwithable but seems...beneath her somehow.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 1 April 2006 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
the golden girls is the best show ever ; )

surmounter (rra123), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

and i still can't decide who's funnier, bea, rue or betty

all are outrageously good

surmounter (rra123), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
i love the scene, i don't remember what season it may be the 3rd or 4th

where dorothy lets rose in on her little trick for public speaking - imagining everyone naked

and then blanche and rose try it, looking at each other, but it doesn't seem to do anything

but then they look at dorothyh and crack up hysterically

kills me

Surmounter (rra123), Sunday, 11 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...

It's a strange world.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 12:36 (sixteen years ago) link

oh jesus

only a matter of time i guess?

ridic.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

This is like my favourite sitcom ever.

MIAMI IS NICE
SO I'LL SAY IT TWICE
MIAMI IS NICE
MIAMI IS NICE
MIAMI IS NICE

rofl

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I went to a golden girls dvd signing at Barnes and noble last year that had all of them there except for Sophia and it was the biggest freakshow ever. The collection of homosexuals in attendance had an oddly Slovenian Michael Jackson fan quality, I saw a guy wearing bleached denim jacket with massive shoulder pads 100% non-ironically and a weeping fan who had to be escorted out by security.

saudade, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 13:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"Jean's a lesbian."
"So? Isn't Danny Thomas one?"
"Not *Lebanese* Blanche. Lesbian."

pisces, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 13:40 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

The first episode ever is on right now!

ENBB, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

haha with Coco!!

omg i've been watching Murder She Wrote a lot -- Jean from GG is in a few!!!

i love the Jean's a lesbian episode (esp since i'm lebanese, always tickles me pink!)

Surmounter, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

While I will forever be a GG fan, I HATE MSW but mainly because my Mom used to make me watch it all the time when I was little. Even the opening music is enough to annoy me! You're right, btw - that's a great episode. I had lunch next to Rue once which was pretty great.

ENBB, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

whaaaaaaat. amazing

Surmounter, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

You take that back!

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

XD

clouds, Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

One of the storylines was about the possibility that Estelle Getty was not Bea Arthur's real mother

IIRC that's a later season episode. Even a lot of die-hard fans have their issues with the last couple seasons.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

That episode sucks.

Some gems in the later seasons: I love the murder mystery weekend, Dorothy singing "What'll I Do," and Alan King as Mel Bushman. But yeah, it was definitely where the show's famously sloppy writing got even more ridiculous.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

On a GG recap podcast I used to listen to until I realized I couldn't stand one of the hosts anymore, one of their guests made the bold assertion that he preferred the later seasons for their "more flexible sense of reality." Which I took to mean, yes, sloppiness.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

But yes, the "What'll I Do" ep is top 3.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

That's the same reaction some fans have about the last couple Rosanne episodes

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

Yes, but which series had more indefensible fat jokes?

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

The Cosby Show.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

At the same time, Golden Girls had more punchlines about The Cosby Show than The Cosby Show had indefensible fat jokes.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

I prefer the latter seasons of Seinfeld because of their more flexible sense of reality.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

btw all silent film buffs now call Fatty Arbuckle "Roscoe" (as his colleagues did)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

I wish that more film buffs were silent.

pplains, Friday, 17 July 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link

disappointed that a ctrl+f for "rattan" yields zero (0) results itt

the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 17 July 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link

we're all disappointed in life from time to time, but we find the hope to carry on.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 17 July 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

Oh please, it’s wicker.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 17 July 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

I saw a bumper sticker for “St. Olaf College”; took a pic and sent it to my wife, thinking it was a GG joke… she was like, “Yeah, that’s a real school.”

unknown blues singer (morrisp), Sunday, 19 February 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/14/theater/tituss-burgess-moulin-rouge.html

Those four ladies and the writers together made television magic. It’s like a fine wine: The jokes somehow are even funnier now, or I’m just getting older and maybe I understand the references a little more. On some level, every creator can reference it as a source of inspiration. For me, TV’s never been funnier.

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 15:27 (five months ago) link


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