What do you think about when you masturbate?

Look, Marcello, I don't want to turn this into a big fight but it was a flippant comment about an amusing subject on a joke thread, and I'd expected it to be taken as such.

Obviously if you'd said "i cannot. i have too much guilt to cope with. doing it alone would only make me feel even lonelier than i already am", at the start I wouldn't have said anything - of course not, it would've been crass and insensitive. Maybe it was anyway and if so I apologise, but it's ridiculous to portray it as some sort of malicious personal slight. I would've given the same response to anyone here.

Do you want to know about guilt? Want to know what it's like getting the urge, not having had any for eight months, and yet stopping yourself even from self-pleasure because you are consumed by guilt? Because it's still crystal clear in your mind when you last did it with someone FOR REAL, and doing it by and to yourself becomes nothing more than a substitute for a life that's destroyed, like everything else surrounding me in my fucking house? Because there's a reminder of what you've lost every way you look when you open your eyes in the morning? Because I do not want to engage in sexual activity unless it involves another person and involves some element of love and affection?

That is how I have to live, Matt. Please try and understand that.

I mean, it's not like you're more opinionated than most others on the board, nor are your views well outside those generally accepted and indeed held. (by us as a group) Yet, you still are consistently having what appears to be deeply emotional and somewhat unhealthy reactions to fairly innocuous posts or threads.

Duh.

I used to fantasise about things I'd never done, and was pretty certain that I'd never get the chance to do (various sorts of group sex things). Then I did get the chance to do about 90% of them. The odd thing, and I have no real explanation for this, is that my fantasies (and taste in porn) are unchanged, as far as I can tell. It's still the same stuff, but now I've done most of it.

Exactly. You don't know, though I'm surprised you don't know as it's been exhaustively documented here and elsewhere. So don't start making judgements until you do know. Got it?

It seems to me that frequently you make deliberately argumentative posts (or posts consisting simply of curt disagreement with little explanation), with the intention to simultaneously jump on your high horse and pounce on anyone who responds.

No, get it right and read this thread again. For the SECOND time on this thread I state: I made a completely innocuous contribution to this completely innocuous post, and as I have said A MILLION TIMES BEFORE, if someone comes and starts to have a go, I have a go back. Do you have a problem with that? You prefer to stand and take punches and shit without fighting back?

I mean

Starting a sentence with "I mean" indicates that you don't know what you mean.

Yet, you still are consistently having what appears to be deeply emotional and somewhat unhealthy reactions to fairly innocuous posts or threads

Oh I do beg your pardon. I forget that posters on ILx aren't allowed to get emotional. What's your definition of "unhealthy reactions" then? Do you equate it with "doesn't agree with us/wants to spoil our fun"?

Still, who cares? We've had this argument a thousand times on ILx. And the way in which Doomie was treated on the other thread was appalling.

But what does it matter, Andrew? ILx, and the "lives" of everyone who posts to it, is just one big masquerade anyway, isn't it?

Still, carrying on this discussion can have no positive outcome, this argument has taken place so many times on ILE and I have no desire whatsoever to rehash it. Neither, I suspect, does Marcello.

Don't be such a pompous arse.

"if someone comes and starts to have a go, I have a go back"

Well nobody was having a go at anyone, and the mood of this thread was entirely jovial until you brought your own personal problems into it (in your second post). Suddenly everything has to get all serious just because you feel like it. It sucks.

Not since that incident with the bungee cord.

But the thread is simply called, "What do you think about when you masturbate?" (not "What do you fantasize about...") -- and I do know women who've told me that they think about specific past sexual experiences they've had. That's why I was speculating that it was perhaps more of a female thing to do.

onto wanking....Angelina Jolie...Hmmmmmmmm