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how big is this dude now I have no sense of scale for pop music anymore

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, March 4, 2012 12:46 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

"sure thing" was the #1 song on u.s. urban radio last year and his song w/ wale brings his total of big r&b hits to 4, but he hasn't crossed over to pop audiences at all, even to the moderate extent of trey songz or whoever

some dude, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:21 (five years ago) Permalink

so sad that adorn is only 2:19 long

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:21 (five years ago) Permalink

i guess he's in that weird robin thicke zone of 'non-black r&b singer whose fanbase is predominantly black'

some dude, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Miguel Jontel Pimentel was born in Los Angeles.[1][2] He is one of two sons born to a Mexican father and an African American mother.[2]

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:24 (five years ago) Permalink

oh word, i thought he was just full on hoos is mexican

some dude, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:25 (five years ago) Permalink

so sad that adorn is only 2:19 long

― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:21 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is prob the best part about it!

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:45 (five years ago) Permalink

like it ends and I'm all "what a good song that was"

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:45 (five years ago) Permalink

what a good post that was

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:47 (five years ago) Permalink

I grew up w/ indian parents who only listened to indian music but since I grew up in new orleans they also listened to a lot of aaron neville and only nevilee (????) and I think there is something nevilleish abt this that I really appreciate

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:55 (five years ago) Permalink

didn't mean to spell him wrong the second time

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:55 (five years ago) Permalink

"that i do" is incredible

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:01 (five years ago) Permalink

"gravity" is my favourite on the EP i think

"adorn" hasn't clicked with me yet, i think with these reedy-voiced guys like miguel and jeremih, i find myself either falling head over heels with songs where some alchemy makes them sound perfect ("sure thing", "birthday sex", "imma star") or i'm left a bit cold.

lex pretend, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:19 (five years ago) Permalink

the production doesn't grab you?

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:22 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't think anything on the EP touches "adorn" but that's the single of the year so far, so no biggie

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:24 (five years ago) Permalink

it's nice? it might sneak up on me in time.

it's not the single of the year, it's not even the r&b single of the year lol

lex pretend, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:25 (five years ago) Permalink

*shrug*

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:25 (five years ago) Permalink

yah "adorn" is my favorite song this year too i think. out of the 20 i've heard at least

bron paul (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't think anything on the EP touches "adorn" but that's the single of the year so far, so no biggie

― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:24 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

haven't heard it yet but aren't there only like 2 other songs on the EP? 'best of three' is kind of...anyway "Adorn" is nice but i have absolutely no idea how it's in any way different from or better than anything off the first album.

some dude, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:53 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm not saying that it is! just that it's the best song i've heard this year

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:56 (five years ago) Permalink

"gravity" is really good too

al you don't see how "adorn" is stylistically different than like, "sure thing"?

bron paul (k3vin k.), Monday, 5 March 2012 00:06 (five years ago) Permalink

you just gotta vibe to adorn, dude

flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 5 March 2012 00:20 (five years ago) Permalink

i vibe to it, but i also vibe to his whole album.

at this point he's only got a fairly small number of songs out that are all good to great and none too similar to each other. so "adorn" is unique but of a piece of that body of work just as "sure thing" is. its brevity is the only thing i see as any kind of departure.

some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 01:13 (five years ago) Permalink

I need to check out this ep. Thanks

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:30 (five years ago) Permalink

So I found this 2005 12-inch in a dollar bin a year and a half ago, and I bought it on the off chance it was the same Miguel. Turns out it was. The song is very much a product of its time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC0JalDPiqI

Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:40 (five years ago) Permalink

just went on Spotify to see if they had the new EP, they don't, but they do have a single he apparently released in 2011 called "Strawberry Amazing," which i had never heard anything about before, pretty good, very lo-fi Prince

something i noticed on the Art Dealer Chic liner notes -- Miguel self-produced the whole thing (except for one co-production from Fisticuffs, who did "Quickie" and "Girls Like You"). afaik Miguel didn't really do any of the production on the first album, so it looks like he's really stepping up and getting more involved in that side of things.

some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:44 (five years ago) Permalink

"Strawberry Amazing" was on his 2008's Mischief, too, and he co-produced that entire mixtape with Fisticuffs. That mixtape was super lo-fi; it sounds like he recorded it with a Casio and a boombox, but you can definitely hear a lot of echoes of the new EP in it.

Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:40 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't really feel like the Jive album sanded off the edges of that aesthetic much at all, give or take a few of the more established producers' contributions

some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I agree. When I first heard the Jive album, I was actually surprised by how low-budget it sounded at times, especially the Fisticuffs productions. Because it came out so quietly at the time (this was before "Sure Thing" had any legs) I was wondering if Jive had cut corners and were just trying to bury the album. It definitely took a few listens for some of the more muffled production to make sense.

Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I kind of think of that hazy, reverbed vibe as the album's distinguishing characteristic. Gives it a very warm, intimate feel. Although a lot of that is down to Miguel himself, too.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

like Strawberry Amazing but always hear a little Lenny Kravitz :/

bnw, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:32 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't think anything on the EP touches "adorn" but that's the single of the year so far, so no biggie

― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:24 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

'adorn' is great but the single of the year so far is obv 'climax'

flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:01 (five years ago) Permalink

"Climax" hasn't really hit me yet. I'm an "Adorn" partisan.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:26 (five years ago) Permalink

'adorn' is great but the single of the year so far is obv 'climax'

wanna say "dayo otm", but i guess i got something to listen to when i get home

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:29 (five years ago) Permalink

My ex is friends w his little brother lol. Apparently he sings too tho not professionally afaik

I like miguel. Sure thing was never my thing but he has a great voice and feels like a genuine original

D-40, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I think EZsnappin nailed it on tumblr where he said "Adorn" sounds like early-80s Marvin. The greater trick though, is that he achieves that vibe without any air of tribute or homage.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:21 (five years ago) Permalink

ban dayo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:22 (five years ago) Permalink

"adorn" is so killing me atm

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:27 (five years ago) Permalink

i agree with dayo that "climax" is better than "adorn"

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:58 (five years ago) Permalink

"Adorn" makes me think of Prince fwiw

D-40, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:16 (five years ago) Permalink

it makes me think of Prince less than 80% of his material but he definitely wrote it in part because he couldn't write another song called "Adore"

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:51 (five years ago) Permalink

nbd, just a cross between marvin gaye & prince

john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:41 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

vol 2, tomorrow

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:12 (five years ago) Permalink

my neighbors always know when I come home because I bump adorn 4 times

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:14 (five years ago) Permalink

^____^

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:41 (five years ago) Permalink

haha i d/led it from miguel's site which requires you to fill out a non-optional "Hopes and Dreams" box to download lololol smh

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I like "Arch n Point" even more than "Adorn"! This is sooooooooooo good... even on my shitty laptop speakers it just sounds fantastic

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:31 (five years ago) Permalink

"Broads" is a tad wacky

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:19 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's just terrible. Like, delete-from-iTunes bad.

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:28 (five years ago) Permalink

god damn "arch n point"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:45 (five years ago) Permalink

ok k3v we get it you like all i want is you

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Pineapple Skies is beautiful but I can't disassociate it from Whenever You're Near Me by Ace of Base.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 10 December 2017 17:20 (one month ago) Permalink

first two >> last two

This can't even be in dispute, right? His latest albums are nice but those first two were visionary. Even Wildheart was a fairly considerable step down from Kaleidoscope Dream

Evan R, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:01 (one month ago) Permalink

i have listened to both recently and i think that position is bullshit though i get why people feel that way, i guess???

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:02 (one month ago) Permalink

first three tracks on wildheart are a little weak but then the rest of the album is perfect

ufo, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:04 (one month ago) Permalink

I like the debut but even after hearing "Sure Thing" on the radio and loving it and digging into the album I thought it tentative, almost furtive.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:04 (one month ago) Permalink

every song on the debut is good but whenever i listen to it it always feels like it’s being pulled in a few different directions at once e.g. “pay me”

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:24 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah the debut is pretty scatttered. It's ideas rich but all over the place. Most of the time that approach works wonders (it's got several of his best singles on it), but Kaleidoscope Dream is a much more focused/accomplished statement

Evan R, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Kinda easy to forget what a miracle AIWIY was at the time, though. 2010 was the era of peak A&R interference, so for Jive to give a newcomer like Miguel a pass and let him release an album w/o marquee guests and a clear slam-dunk single was kind of remarkable. My initial impression of it was the label was basically ready to write it off (cheap packaging, barely any promotion, a shitty Nov. 30 release date, etc.)

Evan R, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:42 (one month ago) Permalink

No matter how good the rest of it is, those first three tracks definitely put Wildheart below Kaleidoscope Dream, especially as both KD and AIWIY start off with such perfect statements of intent. The debut doesn't even feel of a piece with the rest of them any more but there's a marked improvement in his voice between the first and second albums.

I like War & Leisure but I'm not convinced it's up there with the others - it's at least an intriguing development though, retaining the guitars and the live feel but moving away from the overt rock references. I actually want him to go further down the Latino R&B route he seems to be edging towards in parts of this, and it would make total sense for him to do that. If anything the new one doesn't quite differentiate itself enough from its predecessors.

Matt DC, Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:32 (one month ago) Permalink

i like the first three wildheart tracks :\

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:34 (one month ago) Permalink

as others have said he is stretching out his voice in lots of interesting ways on W&L and the lyrics on e.g. City of Angels are appealingly goofy but I just find myself playing a couple of (obvious I guess) songs: Pineapple Skies, Told You So, Caramelo Duro

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:42 (one month ago) Permalink

considering i didn't like wildheart much and am not shaping up to be feeling most of this one either, perhaps it's time i finally listened to all i want is you. "sure thing" is still my favorite miguel single most of the time so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

dyl, Sunday, 10 December 2017 23:06 (one month ago) Permalink

i like this when i listen to it but haven't felt super compelled to return. it has some of the fizzy effervescence of kaleidescope dream but not just the same magic. it's a good record tho & maybe it will sound better once it gets warmer.

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 December 2017 00:00 (one month ago) Permalink

also there are some good lyrics in here interspersed among all the gun as dick/sex as war metaphors

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 December 2017 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

I wish he would sing about hugs more often :(

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Monday, 11 December 2017 00:26 (one month ago) Permalink

i think 'dud' was harsh; like this is obviously good music, i think my expectations of miguel are just high cuz i know what he's capable of and there didn't seem to be anything in that zone

flopson, Monday, 11 December 2017 01:36 (one month ago) Permalink

I actually want him to go further down the Latino R&B route

otmx1000

flopson, Monday, 11 December 2017 01:37 (one month ago) Permalink

I think if his had been his first album after Kaleidoscope Dream this might scan as a major disappointment, but this is about the same step down from Wildheart as Wildheart was from KD.

Big picture the guy has released four consecutive good to exceptional albums and is probably the most consistent R&B albums artist of the 2010s. Small picture this is p clearly his worst album.

Evan R, Monday, 11 December 2017 02:06 (one month ago) Permalink

the most consistent R&B albums artist of the 2010s

I'd say K Michelle is

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 December 2017 02:08 (one month ago) Permalink

i would say dawn but R&B is open to interp

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 02:29 (one month ago) Permalink

evan otm

k3vin k., Monday, 11 December 2017 04:32 (one month ago) Permalink

i'd say jeremih

ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 11 December 2017 11:41 (one month ago) Permalink

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boxedjoy, Monday, 11 December 2017 12:13 (one month ago) Permalink

point taken about 2010 being a bad time for r&b albums ever coming out but

"an album w/o marquee guests and a clear slam-dunk single"

"'All I Want Is You' is the debut single by American R&B recording artist Miguel released as the lead single from his debut album All I Want Is You (2010). The song features rapper J. Cole and was produced by Salaam Remi."

Cole was coming off a guest spot on Blueprint 3 and an XXL Freshman namecheck, among other signs that he was a "priority artist"

maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Cole hadn't had anything resembling a hit at that point, nor had he released an album. He was just an industry bench player; definitely not a draw with a halo effect.

Evan R, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Looking back at the chart history it looks like "All I Want Is You" was performing respectably on the charts around the time the album came out, so I may be relying on faulty memory, but there was something chintzy and rushed about the album's release. It didn't feel at all like the rollout of a star.

Just kind of seemed like in an era of aggressive A&R tinkering and shoehorned Wayne and Ross features the album slipped under the label's radar in some ultimately fortuitous ways.

Evan R, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:49 (one month ago) Permalink

I'd say K Michelle is

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:08 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i would say dawn but R&B is open to interp

― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:29 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

itt insane posts

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:41 (one month ago) Permalink

i'm guessing you're going with keef

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:15 (one month ago) Permalink

K Michelle, Fantasia, two albums worth of Kehlani -- I'm cool with any of them.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:17 (one month ago) Permalink

rihanna not doing too bad from that time period either

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:38 (one month ago) Permalink

yikes, low bar with some of these picks

miguel/beyonce solid contenders

k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:04 (one month ago) Permalink

which picks?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:04 (one month ago) Permalink

yours mostly lol

i dunno, i really like some of the music K michelle and fantasia have put out but i have a hard time seeing anyone making an enthusiastic case for them as artists of the decade. maybe i'm too out of step with the R&b consensus these days though

k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:09 (one month ago) Permalink

who said anything about artists of the decade? I said they were the most consistent R&B artists of the decade in that they've made consistently excellent albums.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:10 (one month ago) Permalink

ah yes my fault, fair enough

k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:13 (one month ago) Permalink

at any rate these women ain't getting airplay beyond adult R&B and maybe late night play on regular R&B stations so they deserve any patronage.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:13 (one month ago) Permalink

ah yes my fault, fair enough

― k3vin k., Monday, December 11, 2017

all good!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:17 (one month ago) Permalink

I believe her; given the circumstances, though, I find it hard to imagine this gaining much traction (unless of course there are more incidents to be unearthed)

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:26 (one month ago) Permalink

given what circumstances

also read all his quotes in that article as Russell Brand's character from Sarah Marshall it's too perfect

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:32 (one month ago) Permalink

i love Miguel but does every single song have to be about how he is about to have sex, i mean i'm glad he's having sex, but

alpine static, Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:01 (four weeks ago) Permalink

we're listening to the spotify eoy tracks playlist and a Miguel song came up and it was literally just Sexual Healing

Cardi Acs (imago), Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:13 (four weeks ago) Permalink


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