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xp - Your attempts to protect Cred Facely could use more work :)

I've always been interested in this, seems like it might be a younger man's drug now - I know enough to know not to take it in a city unless you + a minder are down with sitting in the park all day. And when am I in the country?

Also of course worried about overthinking - done enough talking to Acid Heroes who have one bad trip, and then try again and realise they can never take it again. I'm worried that I'd spend my time waiting for the downturn, and that anxiety forcing - but I don't know if that's a reasonable worry?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

small doses often do not result in that kind of mindspin. half is good for a lot of people.

surm, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

pareilles à celles auxquelles l'étiquette de la cour assujettit (Michael White), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

first time, took five hits of liquid
baaaaad idea

mushrooms were always better

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that would definitely be hospitalization territory for me

i'm an arab man who can handle like 20 shots of vodka but i'm a wuss when it comes to this kind of thing

surm, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty regular late teens and early twenties. Good times mostly all the time – a few down moments but they blew away quickish. I dunno – a tab, good friends, walking into the countryside in spring - these are happy memories.

I'd be a bit hesitant now - my head's a bit more rigid & life's heavier. But I'd like to check in with it again.

woof, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

have done it once, whole thing was very nice and calm, went for a walk, played with a kitten, cried at some jazz, watched stop making sense, no cosmic revelations i hadn't had on mdma a few years before (but those were substantial/lifechanging/etc). only nasty part was on a bus at night where we went past HAROLD STREET and suddenly my entire psychic universe was:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/500x_harold.jpg

had to get off at the next stop but besides that would recommend

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

the kitten was the really a++++++ part

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

oh and i spent like a full thirty minutes trying to compose a utilitarian text message to The Reverend, who was in town that weekend and whom at the time i was still hoping to find my way back to (this did not happen) and i kept erasing everything and collapsing into lolhippie diatribes about how we CAN'T just SIT as ISOLATED NODES and send TINY DISCRETE INFORMATION PACKETS back and forth and MISTAKE THIS FOR COMMUNICATING and communications technology was a TRAP that opened up new connections sure but also ALIENATED AND ISOLATED us and STRIPPED our interactions of empathy and engagement, so eventually i just called him and turned out to be exactly as in command of my phone skills as i was of my texting skills

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

that's perfect!

beachville, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

that's great "difficult listening hour", i remember collapsing into a similar diatribe for a good six months the last time i used ... it was 5-6 hits of liquid, led to involuntary hospitalization, dropping out of school for a semester and a lengthy intervention involving several medications ending in -pine and -pam.

this is an interesting question for me - i used weekly for a period of about six months, but a lot of the tabs i got were from really sketchy homeless nomad connections so i have no idea how many times i got a sketchy combo of mdma + speed (or just speed) instead of what i thought i was getting

also there was a period about a year later where i was eating cookies daily. these cookies had been left in the fridge by a former roommate - several gallons worth of bright-green dough. i knew the cookies had been magically laced with an herbal substance but i also found out later that they were magically laced with a vial of magical liquid.

the late great, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

it has been more than ten years but i still see trails when i drive at night (i guess everyone does to some extent, it's how the eye works, right?) and i can't stare longer than 10 seconds at patterned carpets without everything going all "dazzle ship camo" on me (again, it's hard to separate the line between common-or-garden variety optical illusion and flashback) ... in any case i don't think i ever need to experience that post-comedown twelve hours (or six months) of teeth-grinding jitteriness again

i definitely had a pre-acid personality that is much different from my post-acid personality. basically i am just much, much quieter and much more "in my head" as opposed to engaged with what's happening around me. i am also a lot more content to do quiet, boring and solitary activities.

the late great, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

BTW i would really not recommend using any psychedelic more than once, and i am absolutely not a puritan - i believe strongly, for example, in the therapuetic effects of cannabis. but i have never ever seen or heard anything but diminishing returns after a first experience.

if you really need to be dissuaded, i would compare cannabis + lsd like this: imagine masturbating. that's like cannabis. now imagine masturbating for 12 hours with a gas-powered power tool. that's like lsd. you just don't need to do something that intense to get what you're trying to get out of it, and if you do, you're overstimulated and need a break.

the late great, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

DARE made me want to do acid more than anything. I was real obsessed w/reading books about it as a teenager. But
nobody has it anymore tho!
OTM

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, in school they told us that acid made you see unicorns and dragons and I was first in line.

beachville, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

My friend had an Alex Grey book that showed him as a teen in school looking super gleeful and stoked, giving a report on LSD. It made me <3 teenage Alex Grey because I did the same thing in 10th grade health class.

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Unlike Alex Grey I never actually did acid though.

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

the visual aspect of lsd seems to be highly overstated imo but maybe what we were getting in the late 90s was much weaker than it had been in the 60s

the late great, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

used to do it regularly, dont do it anymore. prob would if the situation was right tho.

i used to think the visual aspect was overstated until i spent an hour running around in a tennis court jumping over the center net and trying to explain where the door/gate was to my friends until one of them explained that i was actually on a rugby pitch and my brain had just seen the lines on the ground and whoomp constructed the tennis court we had been in a few hours before around me.

also, dont have sex on acid unless you are ready to explain to the person you are with why you are getting creeped out now that their hands have foot long fingers on them in a calming and loving way

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

looool

lil kink (Matt P), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

one of the craziest visual experiences on acid i've had was when my friends and i had a group visual hallucination. we had just packed the b0ng when all of a sudden the w33d turned into this little leafy creature with such natural movements. the four of us were just standing around gaping at it and being like 'uhhh do you guys see this too?'

one might assume that someone had said something that described the w33d sprite which then influenced the group's visual perception but that was the crazy part! the only thing anyone could say at the time was 'ummm wtf? are you guys seing this??'

ಠ﹏ಠ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

if only there were drugs that could make everything seem a foot long

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

I had a friend that did so much acid it was unreal. Once time we were driving through the back roads of Vermont stone cold sober when he slammed on the breaks and looked really freaked out before asking if I'd seen the little blue dude that just ran across the street. He was kind of a walking anti-drug ad.

Also much of my dad's family blamed a distant cousin's mental health issues on a single experience he had with acid. That always sounded like BS but also scared the hell out of me.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

xp It's called 'going to Subway'

the feeling is surreal (snoball), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

Highlights of the five hits of liquid:
wandering through apartment complex, see boulders in playground, think they're giant slugs
drinking OJ, thinking there were skulls crunching between my teeth as I drank
ostensibly bad trip stopped when I looked at a clock and it was running backward and realized I was just seeing shit
scenes from Say Anything would play forward on TV then backward for a minute at a time
laying on my side, room fills with red thread like moving up each eye, after both eyes were filled everything in the room started melting together
when I stood up, there was a web of red string everywhere, running horizontally and vertically, could feel it on my skin
when I picked up my blue shirt, hundreds of blue butterflies fluttered out
~12-16 hours in, I was fried and just wanted to stop seeing things so I drove to my apartment
passenger door looked like it was a block away
took three or four hydrocodone on arrival, passed out for almost a day

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

Never saw shit like that again. Thank god. Stopped doing acid shortly after, confined myself to shrooms and E.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

wow sounds like you got the good stuff

the late great, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

hey diamonddave85 doesn't *everything* sort of writhe with furtive, life-like motion when you're coming up? so if you're all focused on that one thing and all coming up at the same time you'd expect that you'd all see it moving? i dunno.

the late great, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

used to do it pretty often, in my late teens - early 20s (going to raves, etc). not particularly proud of that, but it was never really a hedonistic thing for me, more of a learning/exploratory experience.

the last time I did it was just a one-timer, late last year, but I don't think I'd be interested anymore at this phase in life... there's a point, I think, where you get all acid has to offer - and the only lesson from it anymore is 'stop doing so much acid'

Chris S, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

xp yea that's probably the case, but i think it's definitely interesting that we ALL anthropomorphized it rather than at least one of us being like 'nah its just flowing like the carpet does'

ಠ﹏ಠ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

I always say that I'd never touch acid again, but I'm curious how I could handle a single dose now that I'm not young and stupid and always wanting to do more more more.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

I took 2C-E once and had a great time despite my non-tripping friends' wanting to listen to terrible top 40 music. Never done acid, but I would if I had the opportunity.

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

every time i did it i would ecstatically promise myself that from now on i was going to do this every day for the rest of my life because i loved it so much but then the next day i'd concede it wasn't a feasible plan.

estela, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

there are things online about v low dosages being used as a daily antidepressant

surm, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

i always liked what alan watts said about psychedelics - "when you get the message, hang up the phone"

the late great, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

i like that.

estela, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

I have no interest in ever doing this and never had

― iatee, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:47 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dose iatee

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno ive had some decent experiences on LSD but it always kind of exhausts me and makes me sweaty and stinky. i think some cool things but it doesnt really enhance my sensory experience outside of the obvious visual stuff, like i never like to eat things when im tripping, or listen to music, i just end up staring and watching screen savers. i have a bunch of scraps of paper somewhere with acid observations i wrote down that are pretty funny

max, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

but then again, the medium is the message, namsayin?

xps

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

i have a bunch of scraps of paper somewhere with acid observations i wrote down that are pretty funny

― max, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:15 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

poll

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

i gotta find them at my parents house. the only one i remember is "we are the earth breathing"

max, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

lol v original

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

my last trip i cleaned the tub the best i had ever cleaned it. it was kind of miraculous.

surm, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

lol. there was a lot of stuff about networks and light, too

max, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

its all connected man... by light!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

i was always more in it for the extrapolated jokes than the metaphysics.

estela, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

last time i did acid i ended up in a clearing with hundreds of fireflies, it was something being completely out of my head like that.

then the next morning i'm home, coming down badly, watching kids waiting for the schoolbus and i felt horrible. like ~lost innocence~, what have i become horrible. it was one of the saddest mornings of my life.

brownie, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

~cicle of lyfe~

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

we think we are facebook

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

I tried acid twice, tbh, back in the 70s. Not especially good quality stuff, either. By then acid was yesterday's news and cocaine was the up and coming drug, so demand was slack and good stuff hard to find. Therefore I have no particularly interesting fireworks to report. It was a worthwhile experiment, but not for a third time.

Aimless, Saturday, 8 March 2014 01:55 (ten years ago) link

the first couple times i did acid i don't think i did enough because basically the only effect i got was paranoia along with some visual whatevers, but the one time i did a bunch with some hippie friends (like, i dunno, 8 or 10 tabs?) i had a pretty awesome time. like i was about to type 'it didn't change my life or anything' but thinking back i can remember how i started kind of getting outside my own head that night, and considering the thoughts and feelings of the people i was with in a way i never really had, and i like suddenly understood myself as a person with the ability to influence the people around me, like make them feel good with something i'd say or whatever, and i had never really been very mindful of any of that before, and i think it was really positive.....

maybe i should do some more sometime soon, i haven't really fucked with it since then, that was a couple years ago.

real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Saturday, 8 March 2014 02:08 (ten years ago) link

cured my arachnophobia, can't argue with those results.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 9 March 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

i wandered barefoot on acid into a pedestrian tunnel that was carpeted with earwigs. that did nothing for my fear of earwigs.

how's life, Sunday, 9 March 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

Now 14 years since I've taken acid. I'm too old to know people who still take drugs. Well, drugs I want to take anyway, I'm sure I could still get cocaine quite easily.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 10 March 2014 09:37 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...

one of my recurring fantasies these days is that i visit one of my old drug buddiez and well look here! they have acid on hand and they want to do it with me right this minute. if real acid is even made anymore. guess it ranks close to surprise threesomes in the fantasy hierarchy.

moneyma$e, Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:54 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/18/google-image-recognition-neural-network-androids-dream-electric-sheep

google's image recognition software is off its face

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 18 June 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link


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