anyone see the fan trailer for this?
http://geekout.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/fans-create-their-own-trailer-for-john-carter/?hpt=hp_bn8
(it's linked in the article). Makes the film look about 100x more interesting. Studio may have really boffed it with the dumb trailers they've been running.
― akm, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
Latest ep of the Nerdist podcast has Willem Dafoe promoting this. Worth a listen, just for its pure Dafoe-ness, even if it's frustratingly short.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, that fan trailer is a heroic effort.
― Brad C., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
Saw it this morning. Liked it. Dug the odder aspects of the premise, but I can't imagine audiences reponding with too much enthusiasm.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
That dog monster looks like a walking ass.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
You look like a walking ass.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 1 March 2012 06:58 (twelve years ago) link
(Sorry; hard to resist.)
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 1 March 2012 06:59 (twelve years ago) link
fan trailer is excellent and makes me weep for Hollywood marketing machine in 2012
― FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 March 2012 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
A positive review:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2012/mar/01/john-carter-week-geek?CMP=twt_fd
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
I can't imagine the director, given his pedigree, would release anything sub-par, bar studio meddling, but it sounds like the studio gave him free reign. Except when it comes to promotion, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
Saw it yesterday, not familiar with the books but I really, really enjoyed it, up until about 2/3 way through where it starts to drag a little/feel overly familiar (and I really wish I hadn't seen the one trailer I did). The sets are lovely. I spent most of the time drinking in the feel of Flash Gordon, Star Wars, even Neverending Story and wondering how they decided on the tone they did (classic, good amount of cheese, nothing too modern-feeling) and wondering how the kids would take to it.The two leads are ok. Talyor Kiscth took down those ape things hardcore.
Hope it does well, feel like the promotion has been shit but I don't watch TV so maybe that's where it all is.
― kinder, Saturday, 3 March 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
tim riggins is in this movie
― horseshoe, Saturday, 3 March 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
the trailer on tv seems terrible, but every time i see it i think, hmm there is tim riggins, maybe i should see this?
― horseshoe, Saturday, 3 March 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
I have the same problem
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 March 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
Bummed that dafoe is more just a voiceover than dafoe with four arms.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
Glenn Kenny liked it: http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-critic-reviews/john-carter/
― the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
caption to beat
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/john-carter/6091
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
The trailer running on TV for this here is a MESS, I have no idea whatsoever what is going on, its just a series of badly cut together load of cgi smash bash crash jumping around in the desert.
Having seen that fan trailer now Im like OH, there is a WHOLE PLOT that looks actually p interesting and now I kind of want to see this.
― Medical Dance Crab With Lesson (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
fuck u jaime N. christley for slant magazine. you are the one who, in a nutshell, is a flimsy paper plate laden precariously with human feces.
― meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
that was an incredibly hacky review, not that im looking forward to this or anything. funny caption though
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago) link
WOW A FAT JOKE THAT'S TOTES HILARS!!!!
Is Jeff Wells moonlighting as a caption writer for Slant?
― the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link
Caption is great.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link
Also, comparing any sci-fi fish-out-of-water/outsider-goes-native story to Avatar in 2012 = hack hackity hack hack hack. Couldn't he at least have gone with "Dances With Martians" or something?
― the Hilary Clinton of Ghostface Killahs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link
i didnt think it was a fat joke!
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
More of a homely overactor joke.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/j_christley/status/177364394144038912
― Eric H., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
not authorised to see this status
― Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, I guess he protects his tweets, but it was kind of a wan joke on Bryan Cranston's cameo.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
sounds like a pip
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
unprotect wan jokes NOW
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
Still amazed that every trailer I have seen about this has failed to imply the movie is about anything
There are some aliens he bonds with in some way and he's John Carter... of Earth... and there are big battles and a dog thing. That's all I've got so far!
I feel like the trailer needs to either tease the conflict in the plot and make me want to see how it plays out, or at least introduce me to the main character and then throw him on Mars.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
BAR....SOOM
― kinder, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
i think this is the first time i've seen people agree so comprehensively a trailer just doesn't give away enough of the plot
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
doesn't indicate the movie has one, tbh
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
really enjoyed it, up until about 2/3 way through where it starts to drag a little/feel overly familiar
The case with every decent genre movie I've seen in the last umpteen years. The front half is ALWAYS twice as good as the back half. Screenwriterly ppl need to forget everything they think is necessary about 'third acts' IMO.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
That said, still super psyched to see this.
i think a lot of that is that its just plain easier to introduce a good concept than it is to follow through on it
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
lol shirtless tim riggins is like... i am clicking on a thread about this movie
― peebutt fartbottom (Lamp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
exactly
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
who tf is tim riggins? sounds like a ship's boy in a dickens novel.
― meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
Friday Night Lights
u better recognize
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
there's a guy called john carter, he is on mars, there are fights, what else do you need to know
i don't know. i mean, partly there's the problem that the novel opens basically "so one day after we'd lost the civil war to those damn northerners i had a nap and then i was on mars", i think the first part of that is a tough sell for a trailer
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
the trailers do nothing to convey that hes on mars
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
Not really! I think they could conveniently not mention his allegiance in the Civil War in the trailer, but there's no indication in the press materials that this is a "guy from 1800s gets transported to Mars" flick.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
they do nothing to convey: - the year - the setting - that he had a life before being shirtless in what appears to be New Mexico with a bunch of green people
i don't know, maybe it's hard to get past the fact that i already know the plot of the novel, but the superbowl trailer seems to clearly express: this guy is from earth. he winds up on an alien planet via mysterious means. he ends up in some military-hero role for alien dudes.
my main problem with it is that every line spoken suggests people talk like absolute goobers throughout the movie, tbh? but i'm not sure what else you'd go for with the source material, playing it straight sort of requires that you end up with something incredibly easy to make fun of in that line
re: time: the long-form trailer has a bunch of shots in, well, it looks more like victorian england? but that's another problem, and has people going 'whatever happened to john carter we really don't know', then cut to shirtless new mexico
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
there's no indication that theres any kind of story at all. you can get away with a suggestive teaser trailer that doesn't tell you anything, if it's intriguing or eyecatching in some way, but eventually you do need a trailer that at least gives you a basic 'what is this about' kind of gist. disney obviously has zero confidence in the movie and thinks they have to ambush people with the mars element and the period element, but all that leaves you with is shirtless white guy jumping high (i dont know anything about friday night lights but this taylor kitsch guy looks like a black hole of charisma)
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
watch what u say abt Tim Riggins
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
FUCK TIM RIGGINS!!!!
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
i think "transported to mars" is a tough sell too, because lol mars he's clearly running around with no shirt on and yelling and doing fine -- the long-running 'let us totally ignore everything we actually know about mars!' SF conceit having not been established in film afaik
and yeah the dramatic 'he jumps really high! like really really high!' is pretty woeful
idk i don't really think this qualifies as 'a good trailer' but having heard eight million times the complaint that blockbuster trailers always just give you the whole plot i think it's odd that this becomes the site of complaint for this
(in the academy this is going to be the most pointlessly overdiscussed mediocre film since basic instinct 2)
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link