acid

judged by my parents and my toffee intake i've an addictive personality, but tbh i can take or leave alcohol and i've never even dabbled in drugs/stimulants of any kind

If there were a 'werther's anonymous' group i'd be baking the biscuits tjo

I can say regularly through most of high school and the first few years of college, but not nearly as regularly as I would have liked. Probably more regularly than was beneficial for me though, to be honest.

nope

was always too scared

used to use "regularly" i.e. when we had some i wd be doing it. only reason i don't do it now is cos i don't have any tbh

xposts Mm yes, toffee is incredibly moreish. One trick is not to take toffee into work and only eat it at home. Worked for me.

But yes, I have tried this just once, quite recently. I had a dreadful time TBH - I didn't trip balls or anything, just felt generally wretched and unsafe. Started fixating on things and not being able to shake off bad vibes. It was admittedly the third day of a festival and a fairly busy, confusing environment, so I'm sure I'd have had a better time in other circumstances.

a tab and a night in front of the telly is pretty much as good as home entertainment gets imo

To clarify the second half of my statement - "set & setting" never played a part in my decision to drop. I was most influenced by sheer opportunity, followed by immediate consumption.

^^^

yes, for me it was "I'm 30, it's here, I should have tried this by now". But, duh, forgot about set and setting.

i think acid and weed are two i would quite like to try, if only to get some ideas for that tricky first scifi novel

Tried it once, at university. Took too much and it really wasn't fun.

I was incredibly naive about what I was doing and, moreover, how it would react to my state of mind at the time, which was neither strong nor stable. I remember it carrying on for a (not so)good 30 hours or so before I could finally sleep. I think I spent the next day building a lego pirate ship.

Probably the single major regret of my life tbh.

obvs i can only speak for me but i've never felt like "i" wasn't present when i've been tripping. obviously that's not the same thing as being in full control, but as far as i can recall there's always been a core me observing the proceedings and pretty much aware of the laws of physics and that i was on a trip.

and chuckling a lot and talking bollocks to myself, obv

Yes, I think one of the main arguments for people not wanting to take drugs is fear of "not being in control", which I understand as "not being sentient". On psychedelics and amphetamines you're about as self-aware as you are when you're drunk AFAIK. Things like K though... I dunno, seeing someone on that stuff when I tried 'cid was what kicked off the bad part of the trip. The guy had no soul. Not a thing. Falling over, completely vacant, non-communicative; and it just made me feel inconsolably sad for 12 hours straight.

12 hours is an awful long time to have to surrender yourself to anything.

i dunno, i've been married.

Used to do this regularly, and very casually. Like NV even with large quantities or bad trips I always had some core awareness of "I am in here and there are drugs making things the way they are."

Mushrooms, otoh, always left me curled up and muttering.

nb I havent done any drugs in… 8 years? Not for recovery reasons or anything. They just lost their appeal and now I'm really too old for it.

Mushrooms made me have a conversation with my pizza in public.

gotta keep the pizza convos behind closed doors ime

exactly

fun times

real fun

nobody has it anymore tho! i found "shroom capsules" which are actually really nice but, yeah what is the marketplace coming to

funtime unaddictive unpoisonous stuff driven out by expensive deathcrap, basically

it's really too bad. i have had major realizations even. they used to use it in psychotherapy and i can see why.

I have no interest in ever doing this and never had

you sound adamant

music and acid is ... woah

I never much liked taking it and then absorbing myself in media, to be honest. For me it was like, "acid and dogs is woah" or "acid and firecrackers is woah" or "acid and moss is woah" or like, substitute anything in there basically as long as it didn't involve sitting still or playing by rules.

With the exception of Yellow Submarine, I've never enjoyed a movie on acid.

yeah i agree, i mostly meant acid and making music to be honest

Oh, okay. My experience with that was that my band's acid-influenced jams were our least cohesive. A total shambles.

Lasts too long...

xp it works v well for solo work, but i can imagine how collaborative stuff would get derailed

fond memories of that summer after highschool when the acid drought lifted and me and my closest friends split a sheet between the three of us

Tried it once, enjoyed it thoroughly -- in typical me fashion, I studied the sensory phenomena as they were happening. I don't feel like I enjoyed things any less for being analytical about it.

my only experience of acid was the final night of our school musical (chicago 97 never forget) all of the leads were at a house party where 'fred casely' dropped a tab, crawled under a chair and spent the night puking into/stroking a pair of wellingtons he'd found there

acid was a pretty big turning point as far as my musical predilections go. there was a period where i did it with some frequency, but not so much anymore. for me its not really the type of thing where you can just let go and have a good time, i'd constantly be examining the effect it is having on me and that gets pretty exhausting. might be different combined with other drugs.

It's way more popular among ilxors than crack or heroin!

xp - Your attempts to protect Cred Facely could use more work :)

I've always been interested in this, seems like it might be a younger man's drug now - I know enough to know not to take it in a city unless you + a minder are down with sitting in the park all day. And when am I in the country?

Also of course worried about overthinking - done enough talking to Acid Heroes who have one bad trip, and then try again and realise they can never take it again. I'm worried that I'd spend my time waiting for the downturn, and that anxiety forcing - but I don't know if that's a reasonable worry?

small doses often do not result in that kind of mindspin. half is good for a lot of people.

^^^

first time, took five hits of liquid
baaaaad idea

mushrooms were always better

yeah that would definitely be hospitalization territory for me

i'm an arab man who can handle like 20 shots of vodka but i'm a wuss when it comes to this kind of thing

Pretty regular late teens and early twenties. Good times mostly all the time – a few down moments but they blew away quickish. I dunno – a tab, good friends, walking into the countryside in spring - these are happy memories.

I'd be a bit hesitant now - my head's a bit more rigid & life's heavier. But I'd like to check in with it again.

have done it once, whole thing was very nice and calm, went for a walk, played with a kitten, cried at some jazz, watched stop making sense, no cosmic revelations i hadn't had on mdma a few years before (but those were substantial/lifechanging/etc). only nasty part was on a bus at night where we went past HAROLD STREET and suddenly my entire psychic universe was:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/500x_harold.jpg

had to get off at the next stop but besides that would recommend

the kitten was the really a++++++ part

oh and i spent like a full thirty minutes trying to compose a utilitarian text message to The Reverend, who was in town that weekend and whom at the time i was still hoping to find my way back to (this did not happen) and i kept erasing everything and collapsing into lolhippie diatribes about how we CAN'T just SIT as ISOLATED NODES and send TINY DISCRETE INFORMATION PACKETS back and forth and MISTAKE THIS FOR COMMUNICATING and communications technology was a TRAP that opened up new connections sure but also ALIENATED AND ISOLATED us and STRIPPED our interactions of empathy and engagement, so eventually i just called him and turned out to be exactly as in command of my phone skills as i was of my texting skills

that's perfect!

that's great "difficult listening hour", i remember collapsing into a similar diatribe for a good six months the last time i used ... it was 5-6 hits of liquid, led to involuntary hospitalization, dropping out of school for a semester and a lengthy intervention involving several medications ending in -pine and -pam.

this is an interesting question for me - i used weekly for a period of about six months, but a lot of the tabs i got were from really sketchy homeless nomad connections so i have no idea how many times i got a sketchy combo of mdma + speed (or just speed) instead of what i thought i was getting

also there was a period about a year later where i was eating cookies daily. these cookies had been left in the fridge by a former roommate - several gallons worth of bright-green dough. i knew the cookies had been magically laced with an herbal substance but i also found out later that they were magically laced with a vial of magical liquid.

http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable

God damn want this now. Doesn't the internet sell it somewhere?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(anonymous_marketplace)

i've only done it twice for some reason (but have done mushrooms more) and it's been a long time but i think i'm going to do it this summer again.

thread makes me want to try tbh

^^^ this, but also thread makes me kind of scared.

God damn want a 250cc motorbike now.

we should schedule a group trip for that worldwide FAP that keeps coming up

TMI taking a page from Z-Ro today....

b_g hook me up dude?

I only did it a couple times, and that was almost 20 years ago.

The first time was in high school, during the local university's winter carnival where they always showed a double feature at the student theater of Heavy Metal and The Wall. That started out fine but became rather unpleasant, so my friends and I left and sort of roamed around campus for a while. Part of the fun of winter carnival is that student groups build giant snow statues, often of monsters folklore characters or cartoon characters, stuff like that, and seeing 30 foot tall Paul Bunyans and shit made out of snow was pretty horrifying. I remember getting dropped off at home somehow and wondering why I could not fall asleep.

A couple years later we all dropped while playing Trivial Pursuit and the game kind of turned to shit after that. I remember taking a shower for like 45 minutes, then ending up at a cabin way out in the woods. We went to a bar that had a live cougar in a cage to buy beer, and I ended up drinking like 20 beers and everyone was pissed at me - I did not realize that acid allowed one to consume so much alcohol with so few repercussions. Anyway I passed out and woke up at like 6 in the morning with a toilet seat placed around my neck, with two dudes eating plain boiled macaroni noodles out of a pot staring at me. One of them was wearing a dress; I have no idea where the dress came from as there were no women there.

The best time was at a party on Lake Superior and was pretty great - me and five other people were playing in the water, making shit out of driftwood, talking about how everyone in the world was either a Ren or a Stimpy (lol 90s) and, then we realized that everyone else was gone or passed out, and as we approached a car sitting in the middle of a bunch of sand dunes we found that the trunk had a cooler full of jello shots. Somehow at that moment a bluegrass song came on the tape player and we all had a hoedown ate jello shots, and continued to roam around in a bunch of mine ruins.

The last time was on a trip to Florida, where I was on the shore of the Atlantic ocean for the first time. I was standing in the waves up to my knees thinking HOLY FUCK ENGLAND IS OVER THERE, AND AFRICA IS THAT WAY, DO YOU REALIZE, FUCKING _AFRICA_ while my friend Ike gathered up a massive pile of flotsam and jetsam to build a huge monolith of some sort. We went back to the condo where a bunch of people were staying and I was convinced that I was in Vietnam, like in the last half of Full Metal Jacket, though this was not a bad thing at all.

And that was it, I'm done, never again.

Fun at the time but honestly just too much work.

Done it twice, I highly recommend it.

supposedly steve jobs was particularly scornful of ppl who'd never tripped, as opposed to the standard scornful

i always liked what alan watts said about psychedelics - "when you get the message, hang up the phone"

OTM truth bomb... Never felt a great need to try again after a handful of times in my 30s - not from any negative experiences (quite the opposite), but I haven't felt a great need to disassociate since then. Also, sources have dried up.

As with any kind of inductive tool it helps to have a gut feeling about where you want to go. You can't just take and look for the pretty lights, you have to allow things to just wash over you and happen. Set and setting are important, but having the proper emotional/psychological calibration (for lack of a better description) is vital. If you're a control freak in reality, you going to have problems in surreality, and if you're using to seek some sort of cosmic truth you may be disappointed. You're peeking into the mind's assembly code and if you're dissatisfied with the core dump, you'll end up like Syd Barrett and using and using and using until you think you're an orange.

Having said that... I remember these events (whether or not they occurred is another story):
- Sitting in a meadow in Yosemite Valley and feeling (like it was braille) the fractal mathematics embedded in every plant and tree. Insects were miniature complex-system spaceships. Touching a granite cliff-face was like feeling the anatomy of the earth and being plugged into the central core.
- Looking at the night sky through a telescope is like looking at a painting and seeing the brush strokes of the Universe and the three dimensional layer to the solar system, our galaxy, and our galaxy's neighbors.
- Driving over Sonora Pass was an exercise in Dr. Seuss navigation. The road went vertical, upside down, through loops, and into the most absurd geometries imaginable. Not once was I unsafe or out of control because I knew that if I stayed on the road I'd be OK.
- Forget the music and movies, if you're using go to a restaurant you like and fire up those other senses you've been ignoring. A simple steak dinner w/fresh ingredients was one of the best meals I've EVER had. HFS those tomatoes from the garden...
- 2001: A Space Odyssey is close, but superfluous if you're already there. Best movie experience was watching Star Trek: Generations and riding along as the Enterprise D's saucer section crashes.
- Never was able to play guitar along with Playing With Fire or Lazer Guided Melodies. The guitar strings resonated too much with all the sound that was bouncing around and it was ridiculous to mess with perfection anyway.

Never was able to play guitar along with Playing With Fire or Lazer Guided Melodies. The guitar strings resonated too much with all the sound that was bouncing around and it was ridiculous to mess with perfection anyway.

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used to use "regularly" i.e. when we had some i wd be doing it. only reason i don't do it now is cos i don't have any tbh

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This.

I've only ever done it twice, basically because it is impossible to get hold of. It was fun, although the 2nd time was at Glasto and that was a bit unsettling for a bit until I got used to it.

Had mushrooms quite a few times though.

It is perhaps telling that this thread has the most floral, long winded stories :)

Its rly easy for me to get stuff here fwiw, i didnt realise it was impossibly hard elsewhere. I... liked and hated it.

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my last trip i cleaned the tub the best i had ever cleaned it. it was kind of miraculous.

PVMIFC

I want to try tjis

Did it regularly through my teens, walking the streets of London at night and observing the ghoulish fantasyland of the urban matrix, coming down on the Heath as the sun rose. Always had a good, or at least very interesting time. I feel fortunate to have had these experiences and I miss it, but I doubt I would enjoy it as much now.

Also Set Adrift On Memory Bliss sounds SO amazing on acid.

I get that people are afraid of "not being in control" but for me it was definitely always the opposite, being sober just seemed incredibly boring and confining. It still does, sometimes.

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these results shock me, but then i live in san francisco

Never tried it. Was kinda scared of it bc of my highschool obsession w "Go Ask Alice". Also looking back I don't know that I could have really relied on my circle of friends to get through a bad trip. I would def drop acid w Mr Veg if the opportunity arose, I would feel safe w him. Or at the ILX world fap with Darragh :) I'd def be willing to try in the right setting.

awww Go Ask Alice scared you? Thats pretty adorable VG (no sarcasm)

I remember in high school it was the only book in the library you had to get on a wait list for

i feel like acid can actually be p helpful to people at certain times, like it can knock you out of habitual ways of thinking, its shown promise in helping to treat addiction etc, but its also dangerous particularly for people who are predisposed to mental illness/instability

xpost: I first read it when I was 11! Alice in the closet "Get the bugs off me, get the bugs off me"...lolsy now but then it scared the shit out of me. Soooooo I read it like 20 more times, haha.

haha...of course. Ive read it at least a dozen times. Alice and Christiane F sent me straight to drugs door! I totally romanticized the whole thing.

I have 2 or 3 camcorder tapes w/ footage of friends and me tripping at age ~21 (1996) but no way to play them. And would I want to???

i cannot imagine a more embarrassing viewing experience

I know, but I'm I crazy curious to see what's on them. I keep thinking of them as some variation of Dorian Grey's portrait, but I can't make the comparison make sense.

Unrelated, but there is also a tape labeled XXX Mark and Jesse.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7hcbR7yTzE

yeah?

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2014/03/07/meat-contaminated-with-lsd-sends-family-to-hospital/

I think I spent the next day building a lego pirate ship.

Probably the single major regret of my life tbh.

I don't think I read this post correctly.

I tried acid twice, tbh, back in the 70s. Not especially good quality stuff, either. By then acid was yesterday's news and cocaine was the up and coming drug, so demand was slack and good stuff hard to find. Therefore I have no particularly interesting fireworks to report. It was a worthwhile experiment, but not for a third time.

the first couple times i did acid i don't think i did enough because basically the only effect i got was paranoia along with some visual whatevers, but the one time i did a bunch with some hippie friends (like, i dunno, 8 or 10 tabs?) i had a pretty awesome time. like i was about to type 'it didn't change my life or anything' but thinking back i can remember how i started kind of getting outside my own head that night, and considering the thoughts and feelings of the people i was with in a way i never really had, and i like suddenly understood myself as a person with the ability to influence the people around me, like make them feel good with something i'd say or whatever, and i had never really been very mindful of any of that before, and i think it was really positive.....

maybe i should do some more sometime soon, i haven't really fucked with it since then, that was a couple years ago.

cured my arachnophobia, can't argue with those results.

i wandered barefoot on acid into a pedestrian tunnel that was carpeted with earwigs. that did nothing for my fear of earwigs.

Now 14 years since I've taken acid. I'm too old to know people who still take drugs. Well, drugs I want to take anyway, I'm sure I could still get cocaine quite easily.

one of my recurring fantasies these days is that i visit one of my old drug buddiez and well look here! they have acid on hand and they want to do it with me right this minute. if real acid is even made anymore. guess it ranks close to surprise threesomes in the fantasy hierarchy.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/18/google-image-recognition-neural-network-androids-dream-electric-sheep

google's image recognition software is off its face