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Tell that to Neu!, they made do with one for a lot of the time

One of the worst things about krautrock.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 8 January 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Finally got round to watching Prog Britannia on IPlayer today and was pleasantly surprised, given how condescending it could have been. One thing no-one really mentioned was the influence of Broadway musicals on prog, which had grown out of light opera which in turn was a more accessible version of "serious" classical music. I'm sure these guys all grew up hearing West Side Story etc (they played The Nice version of America a lot in the doc admittedly), and it seems like the big unacknowledged influence to me, probably because it's so astoundingly uncool.

Matt #2, Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Songs Of West Side Story Soundtrack Album Track Listing
14. Rumble, The - Chick Corea's Elektric Band Vs. Steve Vai Monsters

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 8 January 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

they also didn't mention (although i think i saw clips of it) rick wakeman's king authur on ice thing and his great anecdote about the time when, due to illness, one side had more members than the other...

koogs, Friday, 9 January 2009 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Come to think of it, were there any women in this show at all?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Friday, 9 January 2009 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Or in this entire series of programmes? Oh, I think I saw Anne Nightingale introducing King Crimson.

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Friday, 9 January 2009 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

holy nerd! BBC's Prog Rock Britannia in three parts on youtube

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Thursday, 5 February 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

The 25 Best Progressive Rock Songs of All Time
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/141547-best-25-rock-songs-of-all-time/P0

There are likely a song or two that some readers won’t recognize, but I endeavored to not make this an exercise in obscurity (a person willing to rank prog-rock songs does not—or should not—need to further bolster his ambiguous street cred by listing songs nobody is remotely familiar with).

Seems to me a cop out just cuz dude was too half-assed to bother checking out Van Der Graaf Generator, Gong, Gentle Giant, etc. So it should be qualified as best populist prog choons or something. I made a playlist of the ones I have of above, but it's begging for an additional 25....

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

that list is rope tbh

Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Dunno if this has been posted somewhere yet but this 5-part Slate series on prog is really nice

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/prog_spring/features/2012/prog_rock/history_of_prog_the_nice_emerson_lake_palmer_and_other_bands_of_the_1970s_.html

frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

Man, I can't believe I wrote off Mahavishnu upthread.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 24 August 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

y'all have checked out this, right? http://everygreatsongever.tumblr.com/tagged/UK-prog
extensive series of UK prog mixes. I haven't even made it through the first five and he's up to vol. 17. fun stuff.

tylerw, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

there were so many errors in that slate series

buzza, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

it's definitely not entirely accurate but it's still a good read

frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

Man, I can't believe I wrote off Mahavishnu upthread.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, August 24, 2012 10:56 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I thought that Slate piece was a mess. Errors, too much pride in liking ELP while still sort of making fun of the genre/the author himself, a poor job pointing out how different, say, King Crimson was from Genesis, or Gentle Giant from Yes, etc.

Mahavishnu is incredible. Not sure how prog it is. To my ears it is sort of Crimson-heavy.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

I'm just glad to see The Nice get some credit; they weren't really a great band or even really a good one, but the fact that they're unheard of is ridiculous

frogbs, Monday, 27 August 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link

mahavishnu is fusion not prog IMO

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 August 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

fusion as well but whatvr

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 27 August 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

mahavishnu is fusion not prog IMO

funny because my jazz snob dad wrote them off as too prog. obv they are "fusion" as far as record store bins are concerned, but imo they are only about 11% less prog than 1974 era king crimson

Dominique, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

i have this thread to thank for my new name.

pastoral mellotron soaked epic gnome and wizard shit (get bent), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not really sure how to classify Mahavishnu either but it's clear that prog fans are like their #1 audience and that jazz dudes aren't really keen on them

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but marsalis/crouch jazz snobs think everything after bitches brew and ornette is basically insane clown posse

Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

y'all have checked out this, right? http://everygreatsongever.tumblr.com/tagged/UK-prog
extensive series of UK prog mixes. I haven't even made it through the first five and he's up to vol. 17. fun stuff.

Seconding this, the writeups are really good too.

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

This seems like the closest to a general prog thread here, so . . .

If this started in LA I just might do it.

Cruise to the Edge

nickn, Saturday, 15 February 2014 05:27 (ten years ago) link

you'd have to hurry -- looks like the progtanic is filling up

http://cruisetotheedge.com/pricing-availability

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 15 February 2014 12:32 (ten years ago) link

Excellent liveblog ILM thread op too

MaresNest, Saturday, 15 February 2014 13:14 (ten years ago) link

I silently ridiculed this concept when it first appeared but watching it continue each year, I'm thinking it could well become the more successful type of festival for the North American prog audience (see the recent death of NearFest.)

Also, I wonder if Marillion's presence this time would make it slightly less of a middle-aged sausage fest?

doug watson, Saturday, 15 February 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

that is the first and only time in history i expect to come across that sentence

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link

My point being that one is likely to find more women at a (current) Marillion show than at one headlined by Yes, UK or homages to Gentle Giant, etc. All numbers very relative, of course.

doug watson, Saturday, 15 February 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link

i know what you meant dude, i was just joshing. don't think i've heard a note of Marillion since Fish left.

the undersea world of jacques kernow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

dark side of the honeymoon package includes grilled schindleria praematurus

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 15 February 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link

every meal served with two complimentary scoops of and you and ice cream

sheesh, Sunday, 16 February 2014 07:01 (ten years ago) link

I love when people bill themselves as part of a singular person (i.e. "Tony Levin of Peter Gabriel"). I know it means of his touring band, but that's always funny to read.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 February 2014 17:16 (ten years ago) link

it's like he's squire to a knight of the prog table

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 17 February 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

The cruise organizers should've gone one further and linked every act on the poster in some way to Genesis.

doug watson, Monday, 17 February 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link

if i organized the event we'd paint the ship up as tarkus and go joust this yacht party

http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?458487

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 17 February 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

So happy I found a reasonably priced cd copy of Carol Of Harvest (selftitled album).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Really digging Supersister. Listening to their debut and I have their second album waiting (hope it won't be long before I get the next two). Quite complex in places and fun.
There's a song that could be mistaken for Gong, with twee absurdist lyrics about gnomes and tea but it's not like the rest of the material.

Not that it really matters but they're easily the prettiest prog band I've ever seen (they were a bunch of young guys).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link

Enjoying the debut so much I just went ahead and bought the third and fourth albums.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 January 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

those supersister albums are a treat. one of millions of bands almost lost to history because lester bangs and robert christgau didn't feel cool listening to them, the poor slobs

these new GOBLIN remasters are amazing, by the way. suspiria sounds brand new

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

Not so sure about that. I've been hearing very mixed things about their fame or lack of it. "She Was Naked" seems to be a genuine hit, apparently they did extremely well in Netherlands and Robert Jan Stips has been in several successful bands including Golden Earring. Yes, that isn't proper FAME but I think they have a more secure place than a lot of obscure prog bands.
Apparently Ian Curtis liking them has secured them to a degree. Most other mentions of Supersister on this forum are related to that.

But whatever the case I think they're way better than most B and C list prog bands. And even some of the A listers.

For some reason the final album Spiral Staircase is way more scarce and expensive than the rest.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 1 February 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Robert Jan Stips is possibly best known for playing keyboard for The Nits for most of their existence, who are well worth checking out if you like bands similar to XTC.

MaresNest, Sunday, 1 February 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

I think Stips was also some sort of prodigy and there was already a buzz around him before he joined any band.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 1 February 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Picked up Present From Nancy on this rec - this is damn tasty

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 5 February 2015 02:47 (nine years ago) link

very much like the first two Soft Machine records

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 5 February 2015 02:58 (nine years ago) link

Great.
I think it's quite funny how in one track they have someone shouting out a request for "She Was Naked".
Odd that there's no songwriting credit to Byrds for "Eight Miles High". Since they only sing a few words of it, does that make it legal?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 5 February 2015 03:04 (nine years ago) link

I need to check out the other Soft Machine stuff. I've got Third and I was a bit mixed on it. I really liked parts of it though.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 5 February 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Track I like best on Present From Nancy is "Mexico", really great.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link


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